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WINDOWS DEFENDER

heart of savino — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:45:07 GMT

do you feel windows defender installed in my new computer is enough security.i have never had a problem with my other computers not instaslling macafee or norton etc...

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MillieMilan — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 14:40:15 GMT

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juperier — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:08:33 GMT

I wouldn't.

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Nuttmeg — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:16:47 GMT

The answer is NO. You should use the software given with service or made available from your ISP.

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glb613 — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:06:21 GMT

@Nuttmeg wrote:
The answer is NO. You should use the software given with service or made available from your ISP.

I don't agree. Use a product that comes recommended by independent sources and doesn't bog down your computer. Comcast offers Norton and I wouldn't have it on my computer.

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Nuttmeg — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 19:17:05 GMT

@glb613 wrote:
@Nuttmeg wrote:
The answer is NO. You should use the software given with service or made available from your ISP.
I don't agree. Use a product that comes recommended by independent sources and doesn't bog down your computer. Comcast offers Norton and I wouldn't have it on my computer.

I have used Norton for the last 9 years. It works fine for me. It comes with tech support from Xfinity. Most customers would be caught out here alone without any help.

Norton or McAfee programs are not a resource hog with enough RAM. Most Dell desktops and laptops come with 8 GB of RAM. I buy 16GB.

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glb613 — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 21:13:28 GMT

@Nuttmeg wrote:
@glb613 wrote:
@Nuttmeg wrote:
The answer is NO. You should use the software given with service or made available from your ISP.
I don't agree. Use a product that comes recommended by independent sources and doesn't bog down your computer. Comcast offers Norton and I wouldn't have it on my computer.
I have used Norton for the last 9 years. It works fine for me. It comes with tech support from Xfinity. Most customers would be caught out here alone without any help.
Norton or McAfee programs are not a resource hog with enough RAM. Most Dell desktops and laptops come with 8 GB of RAM. I buy 16GB.

You buy Dell with lot of RAM. How many people do the same? I can't recommend Norton. I was recently helping a friend with her computer problems and Norton was a constant source of bogging down the computer and in the way. I never recommend it.

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gabstoomuch — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:47:35 GMT

Windows Defender is the very basic protection you could have, in my opinion. I would never use only that.

There are a lot of good programs out there in the software world.

McAfee, Trend-Micro, Kapersky, Vipre, Norton, etc. All of them offer tech support.

Those are anti-virus programs, but I would also put malware protection on. I have Malware Bytes (the paid version). It runs in real time, to catch things before they enter. There are many malware bugs that slip right by antivirus programs.

My girlfriend and I were on the phone the last Thursday and she clicked on a link on Facebook(!!), and suddenly I heard this voice telling her that her computer had been hijacked and would not be released until she paid money!

She is not tech savvy at all, and she said "but what is this? It says it is from Microsoft?". I was urgently saying "no, no, no, shut your computer down. Shut down NOW!"

We waited 5 minutes before booting her back up again, and the hijack voice and "authentic looking" blue screen was gone. I had her download MalwareBytes and run the free scan.

Even though she had an antivirus program running whenever she was online, Malware Bytes scanned her computer and found 202 malware and virus junk. Over 200! It quarantined them, and I had her look through the details list for the malware that had seized her computer. I had Googled from my computer and found that malware is named "Crypto Hacker".

CryptoHacker is programed to slide right by antivirus programs. Some people literally end up having to pay the hackers to get their computers unlocked. I personally would never pay a hacker, I would spend the money to get to a computer specialist and use my money to have them use a removal tool to get it out, but people freak and pay the ransom.

She looked through all 200 trojans, rootkits, virus's and everything MalwareBytes found, and it did find the "CryptoHacker" and quarantined it.

I was so lucky to have been on the phone with her when it happened, I think she may have fell for it because of the "it looks like from Microsoft".

Not to mention the anti-malware program found 202 other things on her computer, even though her AV was running and scanning weekly.

There are people out there who have nothing better to do than mess other people computers and lives up. Can't have enough protection as far as I am concerned.

Also, if you get a separate AV program, it will make you shut down Windows Defender. You can't run 2 AV programs, but you can run anti-virus and anti-malware together.

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Nuttmeg — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:46:39 GMT

I hope your friend buys Malwarebytes.

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glb613 — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:04:19 GMT

A lot of the "stuff" Malwarebytes finds are tracking cookies which are usually harmless. But t is a good idea to get rid of them especially tracking cookies. They can be responsible for a lot of the ads you see while surfing.

I bought the $25 lifetime paid version of Malwarebytes and used it on all of my Windows based computers until I switched to Apple. It is worth 5 times that amount for the way it finds malware better than anything else I know. You really can't use only one product like Norton, McAfee, etc. and expect it to completely clean or protect your computer. The paid version provides realtime protection and prevents malware from getting installed. I highly recommend it for anyone with a Windows computer.

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Isobel Archer — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:28:09 GMT

Highly recommend Malwarebytes!

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KatieB — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 22:30:35 GMT

@heart of savino I had Windows Defender on my desk top for 9 years until it died. I had no problem with any type of virus or malware using Defender. I know that Trend Micro is one of the best, after that McAfee. I would not use Norton....

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Nightowlz — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:10:30 GMT

We use Widows Defender, Malwarebytes & CCleaner. It takes care of the problems we have run across. DH seems to be able to fix a problem when one comes up. He gets on Team Viewer all the time to help my dad & sister fix their computers when they have a problem since they live in other states.

We have the paid version of malwarebytes that we bought when it was a $25 lifetime charge. Now it's $25 per year unless that has changed. It's worth the money & don't know how DH would have fixed the computers more then once without it.

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blankette — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 02:30:39 GMT

I have gotten by with tis program just fine for a number of years. I am careful what sites I go to, and the others that are loaded are selling you a service, thats what lowers the cost of the PC, they agree with software companies to let hem put their programs on the PC. Many of them are useless and considered spyware themselves, I forget the name of one we literally couldnt get rid of for the longest time.