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Java Auto Updater?

shaggygirl — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:06:27 GMT

I'm getting a little flashing thingy telling me about a Java Auto Updater from Oracle America, I don't know squat about this stuff, did some googling and reading different information, some sites say it's important to do it, some say don't, some say remove it from your computer completely if you don't need it. I don't what to do, I'm baffled, and yes I'm as close to being computer illiterate as you can get and still manage to find my way here! For the most part when I read all your posts about computer stuff I'm like "huh?" Is there a simple answer like Yes do it or No don't?

Re: Java Auto Updater?

circles — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:18:19 GMT

I hope you get an answer as I am getting the message, too.....I am lost when it comes to electronics....other then opening the lid to my computer ....there is where my knowledge ends....

Re: Java Auto Updater?

IEscapedLosAngeles — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:30:07 GMT

Get Norton 360 Virus Protection. Scan your computer sometimes and when you get a request to update Norton will tell you if its fake. You don't have to know much. Its just click on a scan button to occasionally check. Most times it will do it automatically. I've had great luck with Norton. It simplifies it for people like you and me.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

shaggygirl — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:04:36 GMT

Well I do have McAfee Security Center which I notice sometimes is running scans. One of my fears is if I click on permission to update this java thing then I don't know what happens next, does it do it on it's own, will it ask me any questions or to pick options or what the heck, in which case I might start crying, ahaaha. Another reason it scares me is because I was reading the thread about the dangers in the Flash update thing being dangerous and I had just given the okay last week for that one to update so I went into a tizzy over having done that but so far I don't seem to be having any problems from doing it. I so much enjoy having the computer but on the other hand I hate having it because my knowledge is so limited and I get scared I'm going to screw something up. My husband got this computer a few years back and got it all set up and was knowledgeable about these things on it but unfortunately he's passed away so here I am enjoying the limited amount of things I know how to do but fearful of making a dreadful mistake.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

Caffeina — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:48:01 GMT

Updating Java is important. Not just for security reasons, but there's a lot of things you can't do without it. If you don't want to click on the notification, just go directly to their site to download the update.

java.com/en/download/index.jsp

Re: Java Auto Updater?

shaggygirl — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:18:14 GMT

Caffeina Thank You. And no doubt this is a dumb question but.....I looked at that Java site and where it says Version 8 Update 25 then Free Java Download, I just click on that and it does it? Are any other prompts or questions going to come up? And same questions if I opt to click on the permission on the notification to do it? And how do I know when it's done?

I just came back to edit this post. I just noticed that little orange notification thingy isn't on the bottom of my screen anymore, I suspect it'll be back though sooner or later.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

KJPA — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:04:52 GMT

Please don't assume that just because your computer is working fine now that you didn't "get infected." A "bad" computer virus (meaning the bad guys did their job wrong) makes your computer really slow and otherwise forces you to notice it. If that happens you usually do something to remove the virus and it's out of business. It doesn't stay on your computer long enough to do the damage they want it to.

A really good computer virus/malware/hacker will run in the background without you even noticing. There may be some clues but especially if you aren't tech savvy you will probably blame yourself. You may think you set a different home page in your browser, or you need a restart because things seem a little slow, you see something flash on your screen before you can read it but then think it was just in your head, etc. Danger Will Robinson! You may be infected!

As previously noted, never click on the popups. You shouldn't even click the "X" in the upper right corner to close it. If you can, right-click the icon at the bottom of your screen and select the "Close" option. That's the safest way I know to close a window with a popup.

I'm sure others here have good ideas and I'm hoping to read them. I think I will post my own thread about a Chrome issue if you want to read and share on that one too.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

Caffeina — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:49:04 GMT

On 12/17/2014 shaggygirl said:
Caffeina Thank You. And no doubt this is a dumb question but.....I looked at that Java site and where it says Version 8 Update 25 then Free Java Download, I just click on that and it does it? Are any other prompts or questions going to come up? And same questions if I opt to click on the permission on the notification to do it? And how do I know when it's done?

I just came back to edit this post. I just noticed that little orange notification thingy isn't on the bottom of my screen anymore, I suspect it'll be back though sooner or later.

When you click on it, the file will download to where ever you normally choose to send those types of downloads to. Then you click on the downloaded file and the installation will begin. You'll be asked (see pic) if you want Ask as your default search, and to make Ask your home page. If you don't want them, uncheck the boxes and click Next.

The little coffee cup icon will stop popping up after you've updated. It doesn't have to be present unless yu want to download by clicking on it.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

shaggygirl — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 02:48:02 GMT

THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH!! I really do appreciate you taking the time to give the info!

Re: Java Auto Updater?

Scooby Doo — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 04:04:00 GMT

I would unclick those little boxes that permit them to install Ask as your default provider and home page. And they will also change your tool bar if you don't watch it.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

Lynnj — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 05:21:16 GMT

There are different JAVA things related to your computer. For example Java script does things that run your computer. Then there is Java software, which is different from Java script, that some games use. So it could be confusing when researching if you aren't sure exactly which Java thing your are researching. Most important - if you remove it, make sure you remove the correct Java thing. If the wrong one, your computer won't work. It sounds like the thing asking you to update is the software connected to games...I think it's called Sun Java? Do you play games? Maybe on Facebook, or another online site?

Re: Java Auto Updater?

Lynnj — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 05:24:25 GMT

On 12/17/2014 Caffeina said:
On 12/17/2014 shaggygirl said:
Caffeina Thank You. And no doubt this is a dumb question but.....I looked at that Java site and where it says Version 8 Update 25 then Free Java Download, I just click on that and it does it? Are any other prompts or questions going to come up? And same questions if I opt to click on the permission on the notification to do it? And how do I know when it's done?

I just came back to edit this post. I just noticed that little orange notification thingy isn't on the bottom of my screen anymore, I suspect it'll be back though sooner or later.

When you click on it, the file will download to where ever you normally choose to send those types of downloads to. Then you click on the downloaded file and the installation will begin. You'll be asked (see pic) if you want Ask as your default search, and to make Ask your home page. If you don't want them, uncheck the boxes and click Next.

The little coffee cup icon will stop popping up after you've updated. It doesn't have to be present unless yu want to download by clicking on it.

Yes, this Java is safe to update. And great that your doing it for the site directly, not the pop up. This type is something that some games might need, or other things that might use heavy graphics.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

Lynnj — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 05:28:52 GMT

On 12/17/2014 shaggygirl said:
Well I do have McAfee Security Center which I notice sometimes is running scans. One of my fears is if I click on permission to update this java thing then I don't know what happens next, does it do it on it's own, will it ask me any questions or to pick options or what the heck, in which case I might start crying, ahaaha. Another reason it scares me is because I was reading the thread about the dangers in the Flash update thing being dangerous and I had just given the okay last week for that one to update so I went into a tizzy over having done that but so far I don't seem to be having any problems from doing it. I so much enjoy having the computer but on the other hand I hate having it because my knowledge is so limited and I get scared I'm going to screw something up. My husband got this computer a few years back and got it all set up and was knowledgeable about these things on it but unfortunately he's passed away so here I am enjoying the limited amount of things I know how to do but fearful of making a dreadful mistake.

If you have questions about stuff, just ask. There is a great group of people here posting and many with a ton of computer knowledge. As you see from today, someone will come along and help answer your question...or give you direction to find out more.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

shaggygirl — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:52:22 GMT

I have absolutely taken notice of how kind and generous people are here in helping others which is what prompted me to ask for advice on what to do. Oddly enough the little orange square w/the cup of coffee notification which was tormenting me for days before I asked has disappeared from the bottom of my screen, and more oddly it seems to have disappeared while I was going over again all your answers and getting ready to take the plunge on the java site. So for now I'm holding off till it comes back to torment me at which point I'm going to go to the website again and follow the advice I was so kindly given as to how to do it. It was the part that asked permission to make changes to my hard drive (I think that was how it was worded) that kind of freaked me out. Again my sincere thanks to all who offered your wisdom!

circles, if you're reading this, what did you wind up doing?

Re: Java Auto Updater?

dooBdoo — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:03:58 GMT

On 12/18/2014 shaggygirl said:
I have absolutely taken notice of how kind and generous people are here in helping others which is what prompted me to ask for advice on what to do. Oddly enough the little orange square w/the cup of coffee notification which was tormenting me for days before I asked has disappeared from the bottom of my screen, and more oddly it seems to have disappeared while I was going over again all your answers and getting ready to take the plunge on the java site. So for now I'm holding off till it comes back to torment me at which point I'm going to go to the website again and follow the advice I was so kindly given as to how to do it. It was the part that asked permission to make changes to my hard drive (I think that was how it was worded) that kind of freaked me out. Again my sincere thanks to all who offered your wisdom!

circles, if you're reading this, what did you wind up doing?

shaggygirl, Please install updates to Java if you're going to keep it enabled. Java has been and is highly vulnerable to major security problems and it's critical for everyone to either choose to disable it or to install updates when they're released.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

shaggygirl — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:05:07 GMT

Okay, one last stupid question, Caffeina said it will send the file to wherever I normally choose to send those types of downloads to. Am I going have to choose a place? Or it automatically goes to wherever it is now? I have no clue where it already is! Duh!

Re: Java Auto Updater?

geezerette — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:20:41 GMT

shaggygirl, I just wanted to let you know that you are not the only one who, in your words, "doesn't know squat" about this stuff. Me, too. So I won't try to answer your last question, since I may be wrong.

But the folks on this forum are always happy to help with what some of us still regard as "stupid" questions. You never know who else you may be helping when you ask something you think everybody else knows but you. You might be helping somebody like, well, ME!!

Hang in there, you can do it!

Re: Java Auto Updater?

jackthebear — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:24:09 GMT

On 12/17/2014 Lynnj said:
On 12/17/2014 Caffeina said:
On 12/17/2014 shaggygirl said:
Caffeina Thank You. And no doubt this is a dumb question but.....I looked at that Java site and where it says Version 8 Update 25 then Free Java Download, I just click on that and it does it? Are any other prompts or questions going to come up? And same questions if I opt to click on the permission on the notification to do it? And how do I know when it's done?

I just came back to edit this post. I just noticed that little orange notification thingy isn't on the bottom of my screen anymore, I suspect it'll be back though sooner or later.

When you click on it, the file will download to where ever you normally choose to send those types of downloads to. Then you click on the downloaded file and the installation will begin. You'll be asked (see pic) if you want Ask as your default search, and to make Ask your home page. If you don't want them, uncheck the boxes and click Next.

The little coffee cup icon will stop popping up after you've updated. It doesn't have to be present unless yu want to download by clicking on it.

Yes, this Java is safe to update. And great that your doing it for the site directly, not the pop up. This type is something that some games might need, or other things that might use heavy graphics.

Def unclick the add set Ask button

Re: Java Auto Updater?

jackthebear — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:28:49 GMT

On 12/17/2014 shaggygirl said:
Well I do have McAfee Security Center which I notice sometimes is running scans. One of my fears is if I click on permission to update this java thing then I don't know what happens next, does it do it on it's own, will it ask me any questions or to pick options or what the heck, in which case I might start crying, ahaaha. Another reason it scares me is because I was reading the thread about the dangers in the Flash update thing being dangerous and I had just given the okay last week for that one to update so I went into a tizzy over having done that but so far I don't seem to be having any problems from doing it. I so much enjoy having the computer but on the other hand I hate having it because my knowledge is so limited and I get scared I'm going to screw something up. My husband got this computer a few years back and got it all set up and was knowledgeable about these things on it but unfortunately he's passed away so here I am enjoying the limited amount of things I know how to do but fearful of making a dreadful mistake.

There are plenty of people here to help you with questions.

Re: Java Auto Updater?

Lynnj — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:29:50 GMT

On 12/18/2014 shaggygirl said:
Okay, one last stupid question, Caffeina said it will send the file to wherever I normally choose to send those types of downloads to. Am I going have to choose a place? Or it automatically goes to wherever it is now? I have no clue where it already is! Duh!

it will automatically select a folder/file/place to download to. Some people, maybe those with more computer experience, like to always select the same place to download things to on their computer. When you do a download, you usually get a thing that pops up during the process that says something to the effect - The download will be stored here, then will list the folder name and file name. That can manually be changed, and after you change it, then you hit okay to continue. If you don't want to change the place, then just hit okay and the process will continue.

Its also good to know the name of what folder it is storing to, because if you ever want to delete it, you find that folder and file at the place it is stored and delete it.

Its no big deal to just hit okay, and let it store on the computer wherever it suggested to be stored. Its usually picking a place where other things that are like this, or other downloaded things you did are already stored. Typically people who select there own place to store it are the type of people who like to keep things clean (clean house) and know where everything is.

In the end, for this, I think you will be fine just letting it select a place manually and hitting okay to go to next part in the download/update process.