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Mad Hungry knives

librarygirlatl — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 20:01:32 GMT

Hi, everyone. I have been a QVC customer for many years. Recently, I purchased the Mad Hungry 2-Piece Forged Essential Cutlery Set (contains one 7" chef's knife and one 4.25" santoku knife). I am coming to this forum because I'm unsure my review of these knives will be approved. My review of these knives was poor because they are advertised by QVC and its presenters as "German steel". Perhaps the steel was sourced in Germany but these knives are clearly made in China. They are not made in Germany. I can tell because the word CHINA is stamped on one side of the knife blade and the words "Made in China" appear on the box's shipping label. I believe this is false advertising. The description for these knives on QVC's web site simply reads, "Imported" which implies any country other than the United States. QVC really needs to stop partnering with vendors that have chosen to have their goods manufactured in China. China is well known for human rights abuses and atrocities, and I, for one, refuse to continue supporting a foreign government that treats its people so poorly. By purchasing these knives, I feel like I supported China one more time. I'm promptly returning these and requesting a refund. Stepping off my soapbox now.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

sunshine45 — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:23:25 GMT

@librarygirlatl wrote:
Hi, everyone. I have been a QVC customer for many years. Recently, I purchased the Mad Hungry 2-Piece Forged Essential Cutlery Set (contains one 7" chef's knife and one 4.25" santoku knife). I am coming to this forum because I'm unsure my review of these knives will be approved. My review of these knives was poor because they are advertised by QVC and its presenters as "German steel". Perhaps the steel was sourced in Germany but these knives are clearly made in China. They are not made in Germany. I can tell because the word CHINA is stamped on one side of the knife blade and the words "Made in China" appear on the box's shipping label. I believe this is false advertising. The description for these knives on QVC's web site simply reads, "Imported" which implies any country other than the United States. QVC really needs to stop partnering with vendors that have chosen to have their goods manufactured in China. China is well know for human rights abuses and atrocities, and I, for one, refuse to continue supporting a foreign government that treats its people so poorly. By purchasing these knives, I feel like I supported China one more time. I'm promptly returning these and requesting a refund. Stepping off my soapbox now.

but how do they work? are the knives a good quality? if they were made in germany they would probably be at least double the price.

if qvc were to stop selling items made in china, there would be no more qvc. that goes for quite a lot of other websites also.

if you are adamant about shopping for goods that are not made in china, qvc is probably not the place for you.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

Foxxee — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:36:34 GMT

It is misleading to say they were made of German steel, but are made in China.

"China is well know for human rights abuses and atrocities."

Many American companies are more interested in making money at the expense of others. They weren't always this way, but I see morality is way down on their list of priorities.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

librarygirlatl — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:51:09 GMT

I wish these knives were made in Germany! If they were made in Germany and they were of good quality, then I would pay extra and I would buy mulitple sets to demonstrate to QVC that I support their sourcing of goods from countries other than China. I agree that QVC is probably not the place for me if I want to avoid buying goods from China. So many goods are made in the PRC because the labor is cheap. I get that. But China is a country that has no problem placing people into forced labor interment camps (also more politely known as vocational education and training centers) because the government leaders disagree with their religion.

Instead, I plan to purchase the Wusthof santoku knife which costs about three times more but it's made in Germany and the quality is excellent. I may need to spend more money to avoid "made in China" goods but I'm willing to do it. I hope QVC will take notice by sourcing more goods from countries other than China. But I'm not gonna hold my breath.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

PA Mom-mom — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:51:36 GMT

@librarygirlatl I agree with @sunshine45. A majority of items offered on QVC are made in China. It might be an American or European company, but they manufacture all or part of the items in China. Otherwise the prices for the items would be very high. For that matter, so much of what we buy is all or partially made in China, including car and truck parts and many home goods. I would love to see more items manufactured in free countries.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

ValuSkr — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 20:13:38 GMT

It does seem deceptive to say the knives are made of "Geman steel" while failing to mention they are "made in China." Highlighting the good while ignoring the bad. I would return them.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

Kachina624 — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 20:36:18 GMT

@Foxxee wrote:
It is misleading to say they were made of German steel, but are made in China.

"China is well know for human rights abuses and atrocities."

Many American companies are more interested in making money at the expense of others. They weren't always this way, but I see morality is way down on their list of priorities.

@Foxxee How do you know its misleading to say the steel was manufactured in Germany? China and other countries make millions of products with components sourced from other countries including the US. Unless the OP has proof to the contrary, I'd assume the blades were Germany steel. I see nothing misleading about QVC's claims.

I hope QVC, Walmart, Neiman Marcus and all US retailers continue to import from China. I can't afford to purchase many that aren't.

I hope the OP remembers her vow not to purchase Chinese the next time she needs a pharmaceutical, computer, cell phone, clothing, or a refrigerator.

Considering the morality that has become acceptable in the USA, I don't think we're in any position to judge the morals of another nation.

@librarygirlatl

Re: Mad Hungry knives

Kachina624 — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 20:43:03 GMT

@librarygirlatl By the way, you'll never find fine quality German-made knives sold on a TV shopping channel. They are so expensive, they're beyond their acceptable price point. I've bought many kitchen knives from TV but have never gotten a good one that would hold its edge.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

sometimesQVCaddict — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 21:48:14 GMT

I'm sure you're aware the phone, laptop or tablet you're typing this post on was made in China as well as most of what's in your home and your vehicle (even if assembled in US, most car parts are China made). I'm sure you're disappointed over the knives, but will you return your electronics or vehicle over your hatred of China too?

Re: Mad Hungry knives

librarygirlatl — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 22:25:39 GMT

@sometimesQVCaddict "I'm sure you're disappointed over the knives, but will you return your electronics or vehicle over your hatred of China too?"

I never said I hate China. Where did you find the word "hate" anywhere in my post? I have no hatred for them. Also, I totally understand that this laptop I'm typing on, the vehicle I'm driving, the phone I'm using, the TV I'm watching, probably all have parts from China or were made exclusively in China. I am amazed, simply amazed, that I take one new item, that I feel was misleadingly promoted with a strong emphasis on German steel and not on Chinese manufacturing, point it out, and then several come with their own knives out accusing me of hating another country, and then others with their own replies to my post who suggest the USA is just as morally reprehensible as China. @Kachina624

Geez, people.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

RainyDayGal — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 23:47:56 GMT

What does the website say where they are made?

Lots of products will say made in XX country from imported parts. I don't find saying they are made of German steel deceptive.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

Pezzie — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 23:55:36 GMT

@librarygirlatl I have to disagree with you. I am not familiar with the knives in question, BUT, if all they said is that it is made of German steel, not that it was MADE in Germany, then it's not their fault if you made the leap from that statement of German steel, to also mean that it was made in Germany.

However, I can understand your disappointment.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

Foxxee — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 03:45:07 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:

@FoxxeeHow do you know its misleading to say the steel was manufactured in Germany? China and other countries make millions of products with components sourced from other countries including the US. Unless the OP has proof to the contrary, I'd assume the blades were Germany steel. I see nothing misleading about QVC's claims.

I hope QVC, Walmart, Neiman Marcus and all US retailers continue to import from China. I can't afford to purchase many that aren't.

I hope the OP remembers her vow not to purchase Chinese the next time she needs a pharmaceutical, computer, cell phone, clothing, or a refrigerator.

Considering the morality that has become acceptable in the USA, I don't think we're in any position to judge the morals of another nation.

@Kachina624

I expected a reply from you. We have discussed China previously, though.

"How do you know its misleading to say the steel was manufactured in Germany?"

I didn't say it was misleading to say the steel was made in Germany. I meant it was misleading to say the blades were made of German steel, but not to say the knives were made in China, exactly what made the OP angry. Only mentioning Germany and not China gives the impression the entire knife was made in Germany. All customers heard was Germany.

What about the handles. I want to know where they are made. Did you ever have a blade slip out of a handle. I have. More than once. Guess where they were made. A knife works as a whole, not just the blade.

The problem here as I see it is QVC didn't want to tell us the handles, the knives, were made in China. They only mentioned Germany as a selling point because Germany is known for making excellent products. That would help sell the knives. Made in China wouldn't.

I can see why some might assume they were made in Germany.

"I hope QVC, Walmart, Neiman Marcus and all US retailers continue to import from China."

Walmart and QVC have been using other countries, as well as, China. Walmart some time ago before QVC and other retailers when they pledged $250 billion to buy products made in the USA. It's been a slow long-term process since they had problems finding enough products manufactured in the U.S. They began helping those who wanted to start their own companies here. They also began buying from other countries besides China.

Yes, QVC a year or two ago began buying from other countries, as well. I think you know that. Prices have been about the same as China.

As for Neiman Marcus, their clothing is made in Italy, and other European countries...the prices reflect the quality, and yes, some things from China however; they are in a bind like other retailers because some of their suppliers are making products in China. If they stopped cold, they wouldn't have enough merchandise to sell. That's the dilemma all retailers face.

"I can't afford to purchase many that aren't."

It's none of my business how much you buy, but since you brought it up and it was directed to me, as much as you buy from QVC, I do think you can afford products made elsewhere and the U.S., too. One time you said you purchased 30 t-shirts in one month, they were perfect and accurately sized in response to a thread complaining about QVC's quality and inconsistent sizing?

30 t-shirts at $35, very conservative estimate, usually priced higher at QVC, equals $1050 in one month for t-shirts. From past posts by you concerning your purchases, I suspect you are one of QVC's top buyers.

"I hope the OP remembers her vow not to purchase Chinese the next time she needs a pharmaceutical, computer, cell phone, clothing, or a refrigerator."

It's almost impossible not to buy many things made in China now, so the OP may be forced when she needs something. She sounded angry to me, so I don't hold that statement against her. How many have changed their minds about something they said when they were angry?

"Considering the morality that has become acceptable in the USA, I don't think we're in any position to judge the morals of another nation."

Yes, morality in the USA has become despicable, but my morality hasn't changed, so I think I am in a position to criticize both countries, and have said plenty about our country on other social media platforms.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

Kachina624 — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 04:03:48 GMT

@Foxxee We'll have to agree to disagree about the "steel made in Germany; knife made in China" issue. Obviously the blade is the part having the most intense use and interest. I don't expect any merchant to list the origin of all the components of a product. That is unrealistic. To me, you infered that the steel probably was not German when none of can prove otherwise.

Re: Mad Hungry knives

homedecor1 — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 04:12:39 GMT

@librarygirlatl

You get what you pay for ...imported from China. Just because salespeople state "german made steel" doesn't imply they are manufactured there.

If those were truly imported and made in Germany like Wusthof knives you would pay over $100 for a paring knife!!!

If the knives cut nicely then I'd keep them -- good luck finding real forged steel knives made in USA for under $30. I have Wusthof knives from 20+ years ago and they were not cheap but still cut great🙂

Re: Mad Hungry knives

patbz — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 04:42:10 GMT

Most items, clothing, kitchen utensils, etc, I don't care where they are made but rather that the quality is there. That absolutely includes items made in China, Vietnam and other Asian countries. These countries make products in all price ranges ( from humble to couture) and they have increased my buying power ( much greater now than when I was in my 20s and had a great part of my paycheck devoted to decretionary spending ( no mortgage and I almost always was well paid). Interestingly even European countries such as Italy frequently have their famous fashion items made by Chinese immigrants living in Italy. Where I personally draw the line with demanding American made ( when feasible) is supply essential items like meds and medical supply ( even if they cost several times the cost of imports, so be it).

Re: Mad Hungry knives

Foxxee — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 18:19:18 GMT

@Kachina624 wrote:
@Foxxee We'll have to agree to disagree about the "steel made in Germany; knife made in China" issue. Obviously the blade is the part having the most intense use and interest. I don't expect any merchant to list the origin of all the components of a product. That is unrealistic. To me, you infered that the steel probably was not German when none of can prove otherwise.

@Kachina624

Granted, sometimes what we say isn't clear to everyone. It's rather common on this Forum, the human population in general.

However, you put words in my mouth by saying I inferred something; which is how you interpreted it, but others understood what I meant.

On top of that, you accuse me of being ridiculous. Wow! There are other points of view here.

What I said could be interpreted two ways. Your way and my way.

My way: "They" referring to the German steel blades and "they" referring to the knives made in China. The OP's complaint was the blades were made of German steel, not blades were made in Germany, and the knives were made in China. I see a clear connection to what I said to what she said.

Would this align more with your approval if I spell out what I meant? Probably, not, because our opinions differ.

This is my position on the subject except I tried to make that position more clear.

"It is misleading to say the blades are made of German steel; however, the knives are actually made in China which is not revealed to the customer. Without telling customers the knives are made in China or just saying another country might cause them to assume the entire knife is made in Germany just what happened to the OP. All customers hear is Germany."

Re: Mad Hungry knives

Kachina624 — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 20:26:48 GMT

@Foxxee I acknowledge reading your post, however, I prefer not to argue or belabor the discussion further.