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Canning Lids

Twins Mom — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 01:04:12 GMT

Scouring the shelves all summer for canning lids (don't need rings) with no success. Today happened into Ace Hardware and they had canning lids in packages that were red, white and blue coloring. Brand is PUR. Nowhere on packaging does it say where manufactured. I emailed the manufacturer and the reply was China. I am not a brand snob, but I am concerned about product integrity. Reviews are varied. I think I will return. Too much at stake and trust is not there!

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On It — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 01:44:43 GMT

@Twins Mom I think that is the wise move. If they used less than quality materials, the results could be awful.

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SouthernBee — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 05:14:57 GMT

@Twins Mom : I totally understand. Several people told me that it is safe to use the canning lids for a second time provided they are clean . I haven't tried this yet. I haven't done any canning for several years until this year. Friends requested my pepper jelly. In July my DH purchased the Ball electric canner and the Ball Jam and Jelly maker. I use the 4 ounce jelly jars I found two cases of the jars but had trouble finding the lids. I finally found one pack and that's when several people said if you had the brand name lids it was safe to use them again. Now in my area everything is sold out but can find a few boxes of the powder pectin. I hope you will soon find what you need. I have never used the lids a second time because people told me they had. I do not have a garden and purchase everything needed to make my jelly and considering the cost of everything and food safety. I am looking for more jars. Friends requested that I use the 8 ounce jars and I told them that is more expensive and time consuming. They said just wanted to express how much they liked the jelly. They are assuming and stated that they wanted and will be given more jelly for the holidays. Nope they are off my list of home made jelly but have found other hot pepper jelly and purchased one jar to be included in the Christmas basket. I gave my SIL six of the 4 ounce jars and told her to enjoy but save for the holidays. She told me the other day that my jelly is very addictive and she puts it on everything and consumed two jars in one week. I told her not making any more jelly until the spring.She said but I know you will give me more for the holidays........she will be very upset and disappointed.

@Twins Mom wrote:
Scouring the shelves all summer for canning lids (don't need rings) with no success. Today happened into Ace Hardware and they had canning lids in packages that were red, white and blue coloring. Brand is PUR. Nowhere on packaging does it say where manufactured. I emailed the manufacturer and the reply was China. I am not a brand snob, but I am concerned about product integrity. Reviews are varied. I think I will return. Too much at stake and trust is not there!

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Leeny — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 02:09:55 GMT

@Twins Mom I haven't canned for quite a few years, but I always used Ball or Kerr lids and jars. I've never heard of PUR, but that doesn't surprise me since I haven't canned in a long time. I think you are wise to return them. Also I have never heard of using the lids over again. I would think once the seal has been sealed and opened that seal is no longer going to be air tight as it was when it was new. I really have to question that one.

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drizzellla — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 02:37:50 GMT

@Leeny wrote:
@Twins Mom I haven't canned for quite a few years, but I always used Ball or Kerr lids and jars. I've never heard of PUR, but that doesn't surprise me since I haven't canned in a long time. I think you are wise to return them. Also I have never heard of using the lids over again. I would think once the seal has been sealed and opened that seal is no longer going to be air tight as it was when it was new. I really have to question that one.

I also never heard of reusing the lids no matter how clean they were. I also have not canned anything in a few years. But there is no way I could bring myself to reuse a lid.

And I must admit I had trouble finding lids. Last time I canned I had to buy complete sets of jars, lids and rings, just to get the lids. I now have many jars in the attic. Guess I should throw all the cases away. I can't see myself canning in the future.

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Mistreatedbycs — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 02:50:02 GMT

@Twins Mom

I found them at Meijer if you have one in the area. They were the lids and screw caps in one package. Not too expensive, around $5 so I didn't think that was too bad.

If I read correctly I saw those PUR lids too but somewhere doesn't it say good for only 8 months??

I passed.

Ladies, please do not reuse your lids, once they formed a seal they should not be reused. You can reuse the screw caps but not the lids.

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Scooby Doo — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 04:10:22 GMT

The lids were in short supply last year also, so I looked for them each time I went to the store. I found some in January but was limited to 2 packs. I bought them throughout the year whenever I saw some. I had to buy rings/lids most of the time. Then I bought the jars at Target because the complete set was almost the same price as the lids. I also bought some Kerr lids from Amazon but it took a couple weeks to receive them.

I can imagine that used lids would properly seal for a second time. It's not worth the risk.

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Mominohio — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 05:11:35 GMT

I'm in several FB groups that focus on canning, and lids have been scarce all year most places. I started looking in early spring, and found quite a few in odd places like small local hardware stores, and picked up enough to get me though probably 2 years or more. Glad I did pick up a few everywhere I went, because by June, they were nowhere to be found around here.

I will only buy Ball lids. I did have a friend find some Harvest brand (I think that is what they were called) and they are made by the same parent company as Ball, both in the USA, and they have been ok so far.

I have seen so many fails in my groups, using no name and made in China lids this year. They are not sealing or buckling and wrinkling after coming out of the canner.

Canning is extremely hard work, and it's definitely not worth trusting unknown or inferior lids.

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Twins Mom — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 14:19:13 GMT

@ drizilla
Donate the jars. I bought many of my jars at Savers. Sad we have to buy more than we need in this environmentally conscious era.

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Texasmouse — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 20:45:59 GMT

I sterilize and reuse my lids and have never had a problem.

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Etoile308 — Sat, 16 Oct 2021 20:52:33 GMT

Repurposed the extra jars. One way is to place votives inside. Perfect for outdoors use.

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hellokitty — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 00:12:10 GMT

I will also use Bernardin lids. They are made by the parent company of Ball and widely used in Canada.

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Twins Mom — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 01:58:06 GMT

@SouthernBee

Can you share your jelly recipe?

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SouthernBee — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 09:30:53 GMT

@Twins Mom : I have one recipe that you cook on the stove top . I have a recipe modified to use in the Ball Jam and Jelly Maker. I have another recipe that you just blend together and refrigerate with no canner needed- that I found from my recipes.com. As you know they can be made either mild or hot depending on how you prepare the peppers and the variety of peppers. For the mild- remove all seeds . For hot- use more peppers and just clean peppers and roughly chop. Will include all below.

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SouthernBee — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 09:59:55 GMT

@Twins Mom : Southern Bee's Pepper Jelly Recipe = using a large pot or Dutch Oven

15 Large Jalapeño Peppers

3 Medium Bell Peppers

1 Teaspoon Butter or Margarine = to reduce foam

1 Package Fruit Pectin or the Low Sugar Pectin

3 Cups of Sugar: use 1/4 cup of sugar to mix with the Fruit Pectin

1/2 Cup of Vinegar

1/2 Cup of Water

If you want the jelly to be more colorful add a couple squirts of green food coloring.

Wear gloves and mask while preparing peppers .

Clean and cut peppers in strips. Use food chopper to chop or purée. Then place in colander to drain real good= this is important to prevent the jelly from having to much liquid to set up.

Place the peppers and fruit pectin in a large pot, add butter.Mix well.Add water and vinegar and mix well.Add food coloring if using. Bring to a rolling boil. Boil for 3 minutes. Add the rest of the sugar and mix well. Boil for 1 minute. Remove from heat. Quickly fill the processed jars, remove bubbles, wipe jars, add lids and seal. Place in prepared canner and process for 5 minutes.

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SouthernBee — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:41:07 GMT

@Twins Mom : Reduced Sugar Pepper Jelly Recipe using the Ball Jam and Jelly Maker

I like the reduced sugar because for me and my friends - allows more flavor from the variety of peppers used.

2 large bell peppers ruffly cut = 2 cups

3 medium jalapeños peppers ruffly cut= 2/3 cup

2/3 cup vinegar

3 tablespoon of fruit pectin

1/2 teaspoon of butter

2 cups sugar

1 drop of green food coloring

Combine pepper and put in chopper . Ruffly chop . Remove and drain in colander. Yields about 1 1/3 cup chopped. Place in small bowl add the food coloring and set aside.

Spread the pectin evenly over the bottom of the jelly maker.

Add peppers evenly over the pectin

Pour vinegar evenly over the peppers

Add butter to reduce foam

Press - Jelly Button and it defaults to 25 minutes- then press (-) button to 21 minutes. Press enter.

Wait and listen and at 4 minutes at (18) minutes the jelly maker should beep 4 times signal to add sugar while the stirrer continues to turn. Replace glass lid. Jelly maker will continue until the end of cycle. Press cancel and unplug jelly maker. Remove lid and stirrer with pot holders. Skim off any foam if necessary . Fill jars and process in water bath canner.This normally fills 5 of the 4 ounce jars.

To make extra hot pepper jelly: Use 8 large jalapeño peppers and 15 Habanero peppers . I have have made a total of 6 jars of the hot and friends begging for more and 5 jars of the mild.I didn't tell them but also have 11 jars saved for Christmas gifts .

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SouthernBee — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:51:31 GMT

@Twins Mom : No canner needed - Pepper Jelly Recipe- very quick and easy.

1/2 cup Apple Jelly

1/2 cup Orange Marmalade

1 tablespoon vinegar

1 tablespoon chopped Haberano peppers ( about 4 peppers).

Stir together all ingredients in a small pan over medium heat until jelly and marmalade are melted and mixture blended.Cool. Place in container with lid. Refrigerate for 8 hours. Yields approximately 1 cup and consume within a couple of days.

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Twins Mom — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 17:08:23 GMT

@SouthernBee

Thank you for taking the time to share your recipes. Definitely going to try.

I have never heard of a jam and jelly maker. Had to Google. Looks like that recipe is strictly for using one since you layer ingredients.

When one processes jars that have ingredients in and lids screwed on, does that mean in a water bath covering jars and boiling for a certain number of minutes? That's what I do with my jam. u should learn how to do applesauce. My mother always did that and now I have a very deep pot that would work.

Thanks again.

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SouthernBee — Sun, 17 Oct 2021 18:56:39 GMT

@Twins Mom : I tried to read everything and be clear as possible- sorry. Yes- process in water bath canner for a certain number of minutes.

I love the jam and jelly maker but of course makes small batch.

I have never tried applesauce but sounds delicious. I am looking forward to try and make peach jam. We have a place that we purchase peaches from every year by the case. I have always prepared peaches and froze them but never made jam or jelly.

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Twins Mom — Mon, 18 Oct 2021 02:28:19 GMT

@SouthernBee

Yikes, I probably inadvertently insulted you with my typo! I meant to say that I need to learn how to can applesauce. And your instructions were lovely - I have so limited knowledge about canning. I make small step with my triple berry jam. My mom made it and I have had good success with the process. Thanks again!