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    <title>topic Re: Burgers overpriced in Kitchen</title>
    <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6416698#M217671</link>
    <description>There is a beef shortage. The stores here limit beef purchases at 2 per person. The higher price complained about may be due to the shortage or maybe the quality is premium like wagyu beef. Prices always seem to go up when there is a shortage.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2020 23:10:28 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>lovesrecess</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-08-06T23:10:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392626#M216952</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;12 burgers for $65 ? I can purchase a pound of ground beef for $5 a pound and make 12 generous sized burgers for $30.&amp;nbsp; People need to wake up to the economic situation we are dealing with and a potential second wave in the Fall,&amp;nbsp; Please shop smart everyone.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:16:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392626#M216952</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reever</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:16:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392651#M216955</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11145"&gt;@Reever&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;12 burgers for $65 ? I can purchase a pound of ground beef for $5 a pound and make 12 generous sized burgers for $30.&amp;nbsp; People need to wake up to the economic situation we are dealing with and a potential second wave in the Fall,&amp;nbsp; Please shop smart everyone.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11145"&gt;@Reever&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;People should buy what they want and not worry about what others buy. &amp;nbsp;Everyone's situation is different.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And besides, it's about the cost per patty of a fast food burger. &amp;nbsp;And anyway, why do you care what others buy?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:26:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392651#M216955</guid>
      <dc:creator>Sooner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:26:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392653#M216956</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="book antiqua,palatino" size="3"&gt;Another day, another complaint about QVC, the value of a dollar, and advising others how to spend (or not) their money.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="book antiqua,palatino" size="3"&gt;Carry on.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="book antiqua,palatino" size="3"&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://blog.etq.com/hs-fs/hubfs/TP/Images/Blog/Y1/Phase_2/7-top-tips-for-complaint-management-in-the-life-sciences-thumbnail.gif?width=822&amp;amp;height=470&amp;amp;name=7-top-tips-for-complaint-management-in-the-life-sciences-thumbnail.gif" border="0" alt="7 Top Tips for Complaint Management in the Life Sciences" /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:26:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392653#M216956</guid>
      <dc:creator>lolakimono</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:26:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392661#M216957</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You cannot look it as if you are buying the meat and making the burger. Are you buying the same grade of meat? Are you using the same ingredients? You have to compare this burger with one you might eat in a good restaurant.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:30:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392661#M216957</guid>
      <dc:creator>Janey2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:30:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392667#M216958</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/176286"&gt;@Janey2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;You cannot look it as if you are buying the meat and making the burger. Are you buying the same grade of meat? Are you using the same ingredients? You have to compare this burger with one you might eat in a good restaurant.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ive bought USDA ground chuck for the last 50 years.&amp;nbsp; Supermarket or Walmart beef is just as good as what you find on TV or the restaurants&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:34:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392667#M216958</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reever</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:34:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392670#M216959</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3" color="#000000"&gt;I can get chuck patties at the meat market for $5.99 lb.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3" color="#000000"&gt;If people want to pay that guess that's their business.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:35:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392670#M216959</guid>
      <dc:creator>Nightowlz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:35:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392693#M216960</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I can buy almost everything or something similar that the Q sells cheaper at my local stores. You are paying for the convience. There are people who like things delivered to their door and are willing to pay for it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;I did purchase the Homeworx candles last Christmas and have been very happy with them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:47:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392693#M216960</guid>
      <dc:creator>proudlyfromNJ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:47:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392705#M216961</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Burgers and Homeworx candles...interesting combo.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:51:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392705#M216961</guid>
      <dc:creator>davisesq212</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:51:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392706#M216962</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="4" color="#333399"&gt;We all have things we won't pay for and it's different for everyone.&amp;nbsp; Smart shopping for one is a great buy for many others!!&amp;nbsp; I know I cannot get the same quality beef anywhere locally - then having to spend the time making the burgers which I find messy only to get a so so burger.&amp;nbsp; Why do some insist on dictating what others do with thbeir money!!!??&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:52:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392706#M216962</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pook</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:52:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392718#M216965</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="5"&gt;If you're not paying you should MYOB!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:58:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392718#M216965</guid>
      <dc:creator>wingnut</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:58:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392719#M216966</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;I just placed probably my 5th order for these Rastelli's burgers. At 5.3oz apiece, they are large and flavorful. When they arrive, in the deep freeze they go!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Sorry, I'm not setting foot in WM at this time. Haven't been in a grocery since early April.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:59:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392719#M216966</guid>
      <dc:creator>Snowpuppy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T17:59:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392722#M216967</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Reever, from your posts, you seem to think everything is alike: all candles the same, all USDA beef the same. There are differences in quality. Sorry you haven't had the opportunity to experience this.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Buying ready made beef patties, hamburgers, you need to add in labor costs. Life is not so black &amp;amp; white.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:07:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392722#M216967</guid>
      <dc:creator>camelot</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:07:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392724#M216968</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Basically same price as Curtis Stone's special Grass Fed Beef burgers over on HSN.&amp;nbsp; Too pricey for me, but I would buy the St. Clair Holiday Sides at that astronomical price if the Broccoli &amp;amp; Rice dish was something else just becasue it saves me so much time and headache at Thanksgiving.&amp;nbsp; To each his own.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:01:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392724#M216968</guid>
      <dc:creator>Icegoddess</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:01:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392740#M216971</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Don't some ever get weary of droning on about the same thing?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Reminds me of the Rogers &amp;amp; Hart song from Babes in Arms titled Johnny One Note. "Johnny could only sing one note..."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:07:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392740#M216971</guid>
      <dc:creator>Etoile308</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:07:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392755#M216973</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/6871"&gt;@davisesq212&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Burgers and Homeworx candles...interesting combo.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/6871"&gt;@davisesq212&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; I was just saying what QVC is good for. Since I didn't buy the burgers I posted what I did buy. Now I see what some other posters are complaining about on the threads today.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:15:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392755#M216973</guid>
      <dc:creator>proudlyfromNJ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:15:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392760#M216974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="2" color="#333399"&gt;Chef Curtis Stone offered Australian&amp;nbsp;grass fed "pub" style burgers a year or so ago which I purchased and they were fantastic! I haven't seen them offered recently but I check often hoping they will be back so I can get more.&amp;nbsp; They spoiled me for grocery store beef and I rarely eat burgers anymore.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:16:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392760#M216974</guid>
      <dc:creator>mspatmac</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:16:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392779#M216976</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I understand, "to each his own." I also understand, "live within your means."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:23:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392779#M216976</guid>
      <dc:creator>shy bobcat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:23:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392783#M216977</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/248879"&gt;@camelot&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Reever, from your posts, you seem to think everything is alike: all candles the same, all USDA beef the same. There are differences in quality. Sorry you haven't had the opportunity to experience this.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Buying ready made beef patties, hamburgers, you need to add in labor costs. Life is not so black &amp;amp; white.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Geez just stating my opinion I thought that was the point of online forums so we can communicate. I was simply warning price conscious consumers about the value of making your own burgers.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:26:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Reever</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:26:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392806#M216979</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11145"&gt;@Reever&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/248879"&gt;@camelot&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Reever, from your posts, you seem to think everything is alike: all candles the same, all USDA beef the same. There are differences in quality. Sorry you haven't had the opportunity to experience this.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Buying ready made beef patties, hamburgers, you need to add in labor costs. Life is not so black &amp;amp; white.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Geez just stating my opinion I thought that was the point of online forums so we can communicate. I was simply warning price conscious consumers about the value of making your own burgers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;What makes you think they need to be "warned"? If you can find your way to the internet, you can certainly evaluate and compare prices for yourself, without the constant drumbeat of "overpriced!! overpriced!!". Buy what suits you and let others do the same.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:38:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>FrostyBabe1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:38:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Burgers overpriced</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/Burgers-overpriced/m-p/6392813#M216980</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11145"&gt;@Reever&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/248879"&gt;@camelot&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Reever, from your posts, you seem to think everything is alike: all candles the same, all USDA beef the same. There are differences in quality. Sorry you haven't had the opportunity to experience this.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Buying ready made beef patties, hamburgers, you need to add in labor costs. Life is not so black &amp;amp; white.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Geez just stating my opinion I thought that was the point of online forums so we can communicate. I was simply warning price conscious consumers about the value of making your own burgers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11145"&gt;@Reever&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Don't you think any of us are smart enough to understand what we are buying and what it costs? &amp;nbsp;It's about price and value to each of us which is wildly different. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I wish people could stop thinking that others don't know how to manage their lives. &amp;nbsp;It is insulting to all who post here.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:40:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Sooner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-26T18:40:48Z</dc:date>
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