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That Smithfield HAM

RinaRina — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 21:54:25 GMT

Sure looks good!

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fthunt — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 22:06:19 GMT

Just decided to order one. Bought one years ago and it was excellent. Big ham cuts at the store - at holiday time - are so expensive. I've read many Q customers are so turned off cuz China bought Smithfield. I say - what's the big deal -still located in USA. (not going to poision us) Love the bone in.

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phoenixbrd — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 22:28:24 GMT

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RinaRina — Sun, 11 Nov 2018 22:48:32 GMT

@fthunt wrote:
Love the bone in.

Yeah, that bone would make some good broth.

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Kachina624 — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 00:54:06 GMT

I just can't get by the descriptions and pictures I saw of the filthy conditions under which Smithfield hogs were kept. I suspect they're no better now that the company is Chinese-owned.

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manhattan1950 — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 02:23:31 GMT

I would NEVER buy any Smithfield products. Chinese owned - NO thanks, I also don't eat ham - way too fatty and way too much sodium.

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HerRoyaLioness — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:51:44 GMT

I quit buying ANYTHING from Smithfield years ago when it was exposed how inhumanely those poor animals were treated and I mean like tortured. They will never get my money no matter who owns them now. Never.

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phoenixbrd — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 15:13:02 GMT

@Kachina624 worse.

@Kachina624 wrote:
I just can't get by the descriptions and pictures I saw of the filthy conditions under which Smithfield hogs were kept. I suspect they're no better now that the company is Chinese-owned.

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phoenixbrd — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:18:58 GMT

it's not the sodium and fat (although I limit both) that is so worrisome about eating ham...there is an ethical consideration that is far more critical. But I know that you also share this ethical concern as you don't purchase Chinese!

@manhattan1950 wrote:
I would NEVER buy any Smithfield products. Chinese owned - NO thanks, I also don't eat ham - way too fatty and way too much sodium.

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Sooner — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:01:07 GMT

First of all, I will say this is simply some interesting facts about pigs. Pigs are dirty animals, stink and often have a mean temper.

I can't vouch for the accuracy here, but in a detailed article about raising pigs and the economic facts of it it says:

One really gains a sense for how calorie dense grain is when you realize that 380 eggs and 50 lbs of squash represent the calorie contents of just 18 lbs of grain. All our boiling and peeling of eggs and watering of winter squash saved just $4 in feed costs. In fact, if you expect to raise your own pigs and supply a significant portion of their calories from home-grown supplies, think again! Here’s a list of common homestead foods and the quantities required to produce the 2.5 million kcal needed to raise two pigs:

That is astonishing to me, even though I'm familiar with a lot of the economics of raising animals for meat. It is from a blog called Farm Folly.

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HerRoyaLioness — Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:25:17 GMT

Wow, Sooner, what do you have against pigs??!!!

According to National Geopgraphic Kids, pigs are

".... not dirty animals. They’re actually quite clean. The pig’s reputation as a filthy animal comes from its habit of rolling in mud to cool off. Pigs that live in cool, covered environments stay very clean Pigs are among the smartest of all domesticated animals and are even smarter than dogs."

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girlchef — Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:40:11 GMT

I would never ever buy a SmithField Product. When You spend your hard earned money on their "products", You are essentionally condoning cruel and INHUMANE conditions these poor animals must endure. There is absolutely no reason to eat these sentient beings. I beg everyone to watch a documentary called Earthlings. Its free on YOuTube and if after watching that, You can still eat another farm animal, then may the Lord have mercy on You.