topic Re: Wolfgang bread machine in Kitchen

Wolfgang bread machine

SharkE — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 16:46:39 GMT

Any one here own one?

Are they like a regular bread machine that you have to assemble the ingredients in a certain fashion?

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Gokat — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 18:38:19 GMT

I have his small, 1 lb., machine, @SharkE . Any recipes for a breadmaker that I have seen are the same....liquids first, followed by dry ingredients, and yeast last (if used). Wolf's are the same. Of course, for mixes, you'd follow their directions. HTH's

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

SharkE — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:15:27 GMT

I used to have a Walmart one had good luck with it then all of a sudden bread wouldn't rise (had good yeast) any more or it would rise then fall.

I got tired of buying boxes of mix just to see it fail, used the right temp of water,etc. Went by the book on the order on how to add.

I noticed WP was pitching stuff in it right and left even added water last. I thought maybe with his it didn't make any difference in what order ingredients went in.

I'd like to find one that you didn't have to be so persnickity. I went back to the old time ways. Never fail. Kind of like to have a fast one though

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Gokat — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 19:47:30 GMT

I think the order is so that the machine mixes the ingredients thoroughly, @SharkE ...and so that the yeast doesn't rise too soon. As you know, it's not like a mixing but more of a kneading action. It wouldn't be quite as important when manually making bread.

I'd like to see that loaf Wolf threw together after the fact. Lol! Think he was flying blind without his glasses!

He got me with the knife set! I have a great set of Cutco knives, but Wolf's will fill the prep gap which seems to be my main pain! Wish he'd bring a sous chef up for sale. THAT I'd grab in a flash!

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Sooner — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:12:50 GMT

@SharkE wrote:
I used to have a Walmart one had good luck with it then all of a sudden bread wouldn't rise (had good yeast) any more or it would rise then fall.
I got tired of buying boxes of mix just to see it fail, used the right temp of water,etc. Went by the book on the order on how to add.

I noticed WP was pitching stuff in it right and left even added water last. I thought maybe with his it didn't make any difference in what order ingredients went in.

I'd like to find one that you didn't have to be so persnickity. I went back to the old time ways. Never fail. Kind of like to have a fast one though

There's nothing really persnickitty about any of the three bread machines I've had. You dump in the liquid and add the flour on top of that, then the salt and yeast. It isn't a big deal. They tell you not to add the salt directly in contact with the yeast, so I dump that in with the water or sprinkle it around the edge.

I take the measuring spoon and make a little depression in the middle of the flour when I put it in, don't know if this is necessary but the first one I had said to do this and I have just kept doing it.

I like bread with an egg in it, so I hold it up high over the paddle and break the shell to plop it in, so it breaks around the paddle. My own patented method! LOL!! And it's fun!!!!!

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Marp — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:34:01 GMT

There is one thing about the bread machines I have never understood. Perhaps someone here can explain to me why the water has to be at a certain temperature yet when using delayed start (yummm, warm bread for breakfast) all the ingredients sit there unmixed for hours with the water cooling.

What am I missing?

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

chickenbutt — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:47:54 GMT

My guess is that you need water at a certain temp to 'bloom' the yeast. It's ok that it sits, I would imagine, but it would need to start out at the appropriate temp just for that one purpose.

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Gokat — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:57:08 GMT

It's all about the yeast, @Marp . I was curious about this as well because I found that from one mfg./presenter to the next the directions varied. Finally, I checked at King Arthur site and it was explained there.

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/learn/bread-machine-ingredients.html

HTH's

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Marp — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 21:03:42 GMT

@Gokat, thank you so much. Guess the water temperature/delayed start thing is nothing more than laziness on the part of the instruction manual writer lol.

I have bookmarked the link for future reference. I found it very helpful.

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Icegoddess — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 22:13:36 GMT

@Gokat wrote:
I have his small, 1 lb., machine, @SharkE . Any recipes for a breadmaker that I have seen are the same....liquids first, followed by dry ingredients, and yeast last (if used). Wolf's are the same. Of course, for mixes, you'd follow their directions. HTH's

That's funny. Back when bread machines had just come out I had one of the DAK R2D2 machines. You know, those big round machines. I distinctly remember that you put the yeast in first along the edge followed by dry ingredients and finishing up with the warm liquid.

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

SharkE — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 22:33:31 GMT

1 thing I know for sure is I want his commercial blender ! I can't afford right now because I've bought to much this month and my SS check usually goes to QVC anyway. LOL

For sure I'll get it for Christmas and maybe I'll pop for the bread machine also. Thank God I can make my own in the mean while. Nothing is better then bread and butter.

think the machine I had was a Oser from walmart. Maybe it was just breaking down and why I had so much trouble with it.

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Campion — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 00:09:02 GMT

I was given a breadmaker and while they are kind of fun, ultimately, I found it was faster and more useful to make bread in the KitchenAid. The assembly of dough is the same work and time as into a breadmaker, and then all you have to do extra is put dough in a greased bowl for rising then form loaves and turn into the oven. It comes out way better.

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

SharkE — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 00:34:13 GMT

That's true I'd forgotten I remember seeing the kitchen aid woman doing that

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Sooner — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 04:19:10 GMT

I LOVE breadmakers!!!!!! LOVE them!!!

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Campion — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:00:14 GMT

The one advantage is unattended baking. So if you have a big bread eating family, I can see the use of one. I did use mine to make a huge amount of home made bread for an after funeral meal. It was very handy and fast. But I've since just gone with the mixer because I prefer to form my own loaves.

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

SharkE — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:12:38 GMT

wolfie is on right now pushing his bread machine

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Lisa now in AZ — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:25:52 GMT

And I caved!!!! I have a smaller 1 pound Zo bread machine that I used the first week I got it - now it is in the garage. But, I swear, that man can sell me anything! I also bought the pressure cooker yesterday - I don't have a 5 quart one. (I do have 2 4-qts, a 6 qt and I think a 10). I think it was that stupid pound cake that sold me on the bread machine. Dueling cooking shows with Wolf and Evine right now and then David.

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

Sooner — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:22:35 GMT

I have had four bread machines: A Hitachi in 1992, a Breadman when the Hitachi quit MANY years later, a big Zojirushi and the Mini one. The Mini is going right now--hubby just put ingredients in for a 50/50 white wheat loaf. It is THE most reliable machine we have ever had. It never fails to produce a great loaf.

The miniZo sits on the counter and we use it all the time.

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

SharkE — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 23:54:53 GMT

I'll buy the WP sometime this yr. and give the machines another try.

Ninja blender is good, may not buy his blender. Lot cheaper then Vitamix would never spend that much on a blender

Re: Wolfgang bread machine

SharkE — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 02:39:49 GMT

WOW! no wonder WP's bread machine sold out at 99 bucks.

I checked Q's stock and they're all 200 and higher ! Ouch !