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    <title>topic Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation ! in Kitchen</title>
    <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263416#M108803</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;MTC and I discussed this before on another thread (love you, lady, I'm not doubting your experience!!) because I'm an Optigrill fan who bought one of the original (non-ceramic) versions from Walmart.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I wondered if it was the ceramic that was so slippery as we don't have trouble with our original model.&amp;nbsp; I mentioned it to DH (who is the grilling fan) and he brought to my attention that our black grill plates have a row of raised "nubbies" near the bottom edge of the plate, which is not apparent in the QVC "close up "pictures.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I wonder if the lack of those nubbies along with the ceramic is what is causing the QVC version to be more slippery....?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hard to see the "nubbies" on the left side 3 ribs in this picture of the original Optigrill an inch or so above the bottom edge of the salmon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.qvc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17239i5F9A45AEEFBAD33D/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" alt="Optigrill" title="Optigrill" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;In any event, I don't doubt anyone's experience, but I wonder if QVC had somehow "improved" the grill yet cheapened the wattage or something else, too.&amp;nbsp; Once our grill is preheated, the meat browns beautifully through the cycles.&amp;nbsp; In fact, it cooks a little fast, so we adjust our times accordingly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry to go on about this, but I've often wondered if QVC exclusives (Kitchenaid, etc.) have been altered in order to hit their price point.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 02:26:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>denisemb</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-11-02T02:26:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2262562#M108749</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The presentation of the T-Fal Grill was so fraught w/ mistakes ! The panini sandwich was sliced until it caved in ; the grill plates didn't clean with the towel at all; and the grease-drip-tray sloshed all over the counter. Nice product ! Horrible presentation !&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:04:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2262562#M108749</guid>
      <dc:creator>carmela soprano</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-01T20:04:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2262658#M108756</link>
      <description>I think that they rush through some of the presentations, especially on ITKWD and the product doesn't show to its advantage.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:51:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2262658#M108756</guid>
      <dc:creator>QVCkitty1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-01T20:51:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2262659#M108757</link>
      <description>JC Penney sells it in stainless steel, so that color is NOT exclusive to Q as stated. I saw there is a model called the T-Fal Opti Grill PLUS. I'm curious about this grill but want input on who has tried it, if possible. It seems one of the common complaints is the food sliding off the slanted grill. Hmm</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:51:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2262659#M108757</guid>
      <dc:creator>DiamondGirly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-01T20:51:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2262720#M108763</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/32620"&gt;@DiamondGirly&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;JC Penney sells it in stainless steel, so that color is NOT exclusive to Q as stated. I saw there is a model called the T-Fal Opti Grill PLUS. I'm curious about this grill but want input on who has tried it, if possible. It seems one of the common complaints is the food sliding off the slanted grill. Hmm&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please know I am in the minority here according to the reviews but I returned mine a week after I received it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The ceramic plates are almost too slick and I found it impossible to roast veggies on it (the first time I tried potato slices on it I reminded myself of Lucy and Ethyl at the chocolate factory).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found the meat to be more steamed than grilled as the only browning is where the ridges are (I previously had a cheap panini press but I still had some browning aside from the grill ridges).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It does work perfectly in terms of cooking the food to the proper temperature. &amp;nbsp;It is easy to use and to clean. &amp;nbsp;I just (for me) found it to be more aggravating than the price tag was worth.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I happen to snag a George Foreman grill on a Lunchtime Special for a great price. &amp;nbsp;It also has ceramic plates but this one also comes with a griddle&amp;nbsp;plate so for me this is a better option for about 1/3 of the price.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;HTH.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2015 21:24:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2262720#M108763</guid>
      <dc:creator>momtochloe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-01T21:24:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263037#M108777</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Didn't watch but that's too funny!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2015 23:46:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263037#M108777</guid>
      <dc:creator>fthunt</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-01T23:46:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263051#M108778</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That woman irritated me to death . "David, David" 1000 times. I was hoping David would slam her head down on the grill and close it on her mouth.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That man has the patience of Job. !&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2015 23:51:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263051#M108778</guid>
      <dc:creator>SharkE</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-01T23:51:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263147#M108782</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/117655"&gt;@momtochloe&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/32620"&gt;@DiamondGirly&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;JC Penney sells it in stainless steel, so that color is NOT exclusive to Q as stated. I saw there is a model called the T-Fal Opti Grill PLUS. I'm curious about this grill but want input on who has tried it, if possible. It seems one of the common complaints is the food sliding off the slanted grill. Hmm&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please know I am in the minority here according to the reviews but I returned mine a week after I received it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The ceramic plates are almost too slick and I found it impossible to roast veggies on it (the first time I tried potato slices on it I reminded myself of Lucy and Ethyl at the chocolate factory).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found the meat to be more steamed than grilled as the only browning is where the ridges are (I previously had a cheap panini press but I still had some browning aside from the grill ridges).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It does work perfectly in terms of cooking the food to the proper temperature. &amp;nbsp;It is easy to use and to clean. &amp;nbsp;I just (for me) found it to be more aggravating than the price tag was worth.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I happen to snag a George Foreman grill on a Lunchtime Special for a great price. &amp;nbsp;It also has ceramic plates but this one also comes with a griddle&amp;nbsp;plate so for me this is a better option for about 1/3 of the price.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;HTH.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/117655"&gt;@momtochloe&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You're not alone!&amp;nbsp; I will be returning mine this week:&amp;nbsp; had to wait for QVC to send me mailing form 'cause I didn't save it - was determined to love that grill; but, mine was defective - had called t-Fal cust svc twice.&amp;nbsp; The problem I had was very common in this grill they said (purple lite would not come on and had to be reset, more than once!).&amp;nbsp; Also, cooked pork well done - it wasn't - had to reheat it!&amp;nbsp; So, you are not alone!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 00:25:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263147#M108782</guid>
      <dc:creator>eddyandme</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-02T00:25:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263173#M108787</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Oh thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/202276"&gt;@eddyandme﻿&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;I hate to be negative as sometimes things are a matter of perception and I am so sorry to hear that yours was defective. &amp;nbsp;QVC is very good about helping out when things go wrong. &amp;nbsp; That's just a lot of money for something that should work well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am very happy with the George Foreman grill with the griddle plate so I guess it all worked out in the end. &amp;nbsp;I hope you find something that works well for you and your family too!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 00:32:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263173#M108787</guid>
      <dc:creator>momtochloe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-02T00:32:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263300#M108794</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks everyone! I appreciate your input. I think I'll wait for a more improved model ha! Maybe George will make one with similar features. I do love his grill!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 01:35:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263300#M108794</guid>
      <dc:creator>DiamondGirly</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-02T01:35:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263416#M108803</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;MTC and I discussed this before on another thread (love you, lady, I'm not doubting your experience!!) because I'm an Optigrill fan who bought one of the original (non-ceramic) versions from Walmart.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I wondered if it was the ceramic that was so slippery as we don't have trouble with our original model.&amp;nbsp; I mentioned it to DH (who is the grilling fan) and he brought to my attention that our black grill plates have a row of raised "nubbies" near the bottom edge of the plate, which is not apparent in the QVC "close up "pictures.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I wonder if the lack of those nubbies along with the ceramic is what is causing the QVC version to be more slippery....?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hard to see the "nubbies" on the left side 3 ribs in this picture of the original Optigrill an inch or so above the bottom edge of the salmon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.qvc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17239i5F9A45AEEFBAD33D/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" alt="Optigrill" title="Optigrill" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;In any event, I don't doubt anyone's experience, but I wonder if QVC had somehow "improved" the grill yet cheapened the wattage or something else, too.&amp;nbsp; Once our grill is preheated, the meat browns beautifully through the cycles.&amp;nbsp; In fact, it cooks a little fast, so we adjust our times accordingly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry to go on about this, but I've often wondered if QVC exclusives (Kitchenaid, etc.) have been altered in order to hit their price point.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 02:26:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263416#M108803</guid>
      <dc:creator>denisemb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-02T02:26:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263915#M108827</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/217232"&gt;@denisemb&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;MTC and I discussed this before on another thread (love you, lady, I'm not doubting your experience!!) because I'm an Optigrill fan who bought one of the original (non-ceramic) versions from Walmart.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I wondered if it was the ceramic that was so slippery as we don't have trouble with our original model.&amp;nbsp; I mentioned it to DH (who is the grilling fan) and he brought to my attention that our black grill plates have a row of raised "nubbies" near the bottom edge of the plate, which is not apparent in the QVC "close up "pictures.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I wonder if the lack of those nubbies along with the ceramic is what is causing the QVC version to be more slippery....?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hard to see the "nubbies" on the left side 3 ribs in this picture of the original Optigrill an inch or so above the bottom edge of the salmon.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.qvc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/17239i5F9A45AEEFBAD33D/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&amp;amp;px=-1" border="0" alt="Optigrill" title="Optigrill" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;In any event, I don't doubt anyone's experience, but I wonder if QVC had somehow "improved" the grill yet cheapened the wattage or something else, too.&amp;nbsp; Once our grill is preheated, the meat browns beautifully through the cycles.&amp;nbsp; In fact, it cooks a little fast, so we adjust our times accordingly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry to go on about this, but I've often wondered if QVC exclusives (Kitchenaid, etc.) have been altered in order to hit their price point.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Oh denisemb, I am so glad you replied here! &amp;nbsp;I had forgotten to mention the nubbies at the bottom as I am sure that would help with the problem. &amp;nbsp;It's a shame they weren't added to this version of the grill.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I&amp;nbsp;too wonder sometimes about items that are manufactured just for QVC as it is my understanding that they can be difficult to work with when they want something done their way.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks again for your help&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/217232"&gt;@denisemb&lt;/a&gt;!&amp;nbsp;&lt;img id="heart" class="emoticon emoticon-heart" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_heart.png" alt="Heart" title="Heart" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 11:24:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2263915#M108827</guid>
      <dc:creator>momtochloe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-02T11:24:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: The T-Fal Grill Presentation !</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Kitchen/The-T-Fal-Grill-Presentation/m-p/2264465#M108839</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have to add something to the "nubbies" conversation . . . I just made a patty melt on the George Foreman grill and because I had used the grill only for frying eggs and bacon on the griddle plate side I now realize the Foreman grill I purchased has those nubbies at the bottom of the grill plate and boy do they help keeping things on the grill even&amp;nbsp;with&amp;nbsp;a ceramic surface . . . what a shame that QVC didn't include them on the Opti-Grill as I think it would have really made a positive difference in the grill's overall performance . . . &lt;img id="smileysad" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysad" src="https://community.qvc.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.png" alt="Smiley Sad" title="Smiley Sad" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 16:35:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>momtochloe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-02T16:35:56Z</dc:date>
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