topic Re: Retinal vs Retinol in Beauty

Retinal vs Retinol

Shelbelle — Thu, 14 May 2026 15:30:51 GMT

Anyone using Retinal, supposedly a more potent form of Vit A than Retinol, but not as potent at Tretinoin.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

JudyL — Thu, 14 May 2026 16:01:27 GMT

@Shelbelle wrote:
Anyone using Retinal, supposedly a more potent form of Vit A than Retinol, but not as potent at Tretinoin.

@Shelbelle - I'm using the Naturium retinal product - 0.15%. It's not real strong but seems to be fine for me.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

JeanLouiseFinch — Thu, 14 May 2026 16:32:59 GMT

@Shelbelle - I use prescription Tretinoin at night but I recently purchased the new Numbuzin No. 9 NAD+ Retinal Volumetox Eye Cream. Besides the under eye, it can be used other places like lids, lip rim, smile lines. I have no problem with it and use it during the day too.

I also have Abib Retinal Eye Patches but haven't opened them yet.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

Shelbelle — Thu, 14 May 2026 16:48:20 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@Shelbelle - I use prescription Tretinoin at night but I recently purchased the new Numbuzin No. 9 NAD+ Retinal Volumetox Eye Cream. Besides the under eye, it can be used other places like lids, lip rim, smile lines. I have no problem with it and use it during the day too.

I also have Abib Retinal Eye Patches but haven't opened them yet.

Are you using these eye products in add to the Perlier Youth Creator for Eye ?

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

JeanLouiseFinch — Thu, 14 May 2026 17:29:10 GMT

@Shelbelle wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@Shelbelle - I use prescription Tretinoin at night but I recently purchased the new Numbuzin No. 9 NAD+ Retinal Volumetox Eye Cream. Besides the under eye, it can be used other places like lids, lip rim, smile lines. I have no problem with it and use it during the day too.

I also have Abib Retinal Eye Patches but haven't opened them yet.
Are you using these eye products in add to the Perlier Youth Creator for Eye ?

Yes, @Shelbelle. The way I look at it, the Youth Creator is a serum so I'd still add an eye cream over it. And the under eye patches, I don't expect miracles, probably just some extra hydration, but we'll see. Eye patches are just occasional use when I feel like playing "DIY spa day".

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

nyc1 — Thu, 14 May 2026 17:35:46 GMT

@Shelbelle Yes ... I use Tretinoin one or two nights and then use Retinaldehyde the next night. I'm using Medik8 strength 24, which is their highest (they have many steps). I worked my way up starting with 6 which was no problem for me at all since I had been using PTR PM Retinol for YEARS! I also use Paula's Choice Pro Retinaldehyde.

I recently purchased the Prequel in the #2 strength (they have 1 & 2), and will try that as soon as I've used up one of my other Retinals.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

Shelbelle — Thu, 14 May 2026 18:16:09 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@Shelbelle wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:
@Shelbelle - I use prescription Tretinoin at night but I recently purchased the new Numbuzin No. 9 NAD+ Retinal Volumetox Eye Cream. Besides the under eye, it can be used other places like lids, lip rim, smile lines. I have no problem with it and use it during the day too.

I also have Abib Retinal Eye Patches but haven't opened them yet.
Are you using these eye products in add to the Perlier Youth Creator for Eye ?
Yes, @Shelbelle. The way I look at it, the Youth Creator is a serum so I'd still add an eye cream over it. And the under eye patches, I don't expect miracles, probably just some extra hydration, but we'll see. Eye patches are just occasional use when I feel like playing "DIY spa day".

I use either patches or what is designated as a cream eye mask once week. right now using Korres Olive Oil Eye Mask, a cream. Prior to that I used one from Elemis.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

MoonieBaby — Thu, 14 May 2026 18:25:04 GMT

Tretinoin. And I mix it with high percent vitamin c serum and a dash of Differin gel. I have done so for many years and cycle it, two months on 4 months off and repeat. I have never had trouble. I don’t and won’t use sunscreen but rather I stay out of the sun for the last 15 years or wear a hat if I’m out in it for gardening etc. I think it’s an individual choice for those using Tretinoin - my dose is the highest percent and it’s perfect for me. Forehead to lower chest and on the back of my neck. No issues. But that’s just my experience. Not recommending it to anyone else.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

ccassaday — Thu, 14 May 2026 18:37:04 GMT

It works faster than retinol. But it’s also more gentle. I use naturium .1%

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

SilleeMee — Thu, 14 May 2026 18:41:11 GMT

Using any type of retinoid on the eyelids or on the under-eye areas is not a good idea. Retinoids can interfere with the meibomian glands which supply oil lubricant for the eyes. Retinoids disrupt the oil production and can cause meibomian gland dysfunction (MGD) which is a leading cause of dry eye disease.

If you insist on applying a retinoid to the eye area, limit the application to the under-eye area only and keep it at least one-quarter of an inch away from the bottom lash line.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

FLGators — Thu, 14 May 2026 18:45:51 GMT

I currently use beauty of Joseon retinal eye cream but I have been considering

the Medik8 Crystal Retinal Ceramide Eye cream (comes in diff strengths). It is very popular eventhough its pricey. Even the budget dermatologist recommends that it is worth splurging on.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

Shelbelle — Thu, 14 May 2026 19:40:30 GMT

Derma Factory seems like a good one to try in the beginning, .03 % with other good, gentle ingredients, K Beauty ony $11 for an oz, good reviews. Amz.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

Shelbelle — Thu, 14 May 2026 19:43:40 GMT

I saw another chart, there is actually a Strength 1 all the way up to Strength 20.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

Shelbelle — Thu, 14 May 2026 19:51:55 GMT

@JudyL wrote:
@Shelbelle wrote:
Anyone using Retinal, supposedly a more potent form of Vit A than Retinol, but not as potent at Tretinoin.
@Shelbelle - I'm using the Naturium retinal product - 0.15%. It's not real strong but seems to be fine for me.

Hi, Judy, .15 is quite strong, this is the highest level that Naturium makes.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

JudyL — Thu, 14 May 2026 19:55:37 GMT

@Shelbelle wrote:
@JudyL wrote:
@Shelbelle wrote:
Anyone using Retinal, supposedly a more potent form of Vit A than Retinol, but not as potent at Tretinoin.
@Shelbelle - I'm using the Naturium retinal product - 0.15%. It's not real strong but seems to be fine for me.
Hi, Judy, .15 is quite strong, this is the highest level that Naturium makes.

@Shelbelle - Is it strong? I didn't think that it was, thought there were a lot of stronger ones out there. Started with the lowest dose and then worked up to it. My skin doesn't seem to be bothered by it.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

Shelbelle — Thu, 14 May 2026 19:59:22 GMT

@JudyL wrote:
@Shelbelle wrote:
@JudyL wrote:
@Shelbelle wrote:
Anyone using Retinal, supposedly a more potent form of Vit A than Retinol, but not as potent at Tretinoin.
@Shelbelle - I'm using the Naturium retinal product - 0.15%. It's not real strong but seems to be fine for me.
Hi, Judy, .15 is quite strong, this is the highest level that Naturium makes.
@Shelbelle - Is it strong? I didn't think that it was, thought there were a lot of stronger ones out there. Started with the lowest dose and then worked up to it. My skin doesn't seem to be bothered by it.

Yes, it is very strong, highest this brand makes, and on the chart I read .20 is the highest ever. Some brands stop at .10

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

JudyL — Thu, 14 May 2026 20:10:06 GMT

@Shelbelle wrote:
@JudyL wrote:
@Shelbelle wrote:
@JudyL wrote:
@Shelbelle wrote:
Anyone using Retinal, supposedly a more potent form of Vit A than Retinol, but not as potent at Tretinoin.
@Shelbelle - I'm using the Naturium retinal product - 0.15%. It's not real strong but seems to be fine for me.
Hi, Judy, .15 is quite strong, this is the highest level that Naturium makes.
@Shelbelle - Is it strong? I didn't think that it was, thought there were a lot of stronger ones out there. Started with the lowest dose and then worked up to it. My skin doesn't seem to be bothered by it.
Yes, it is very strong, highest this brand makes, and on the chart I read .20 is the highest ever. Some brands stop at .10

@Shelbelle -Wow, thanks for lettting me know.

Re: Retinal vs Retinol

Desertdi — Thu, 14 May 2026 21:42:58 GMT

I have pretty tough hide, but retinol makes me flake and peel. I stick with collagen and peptides.