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Shampoo to purposefully fade hair color?!!

moonandthestars — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:35:07 GMT

I had my hair done the other day and it didn't go that well. It came out very very dark, which is exactly what I didn't want - I had this sort of thing happen once before many years ago. So is felt like a sad deja vu. Anyway, hair person tried to lighten it twice with a solution. The color barely budged. Then at my suggestion she added some highlights to help add some light to this very very dark situation. Those areas lifted pretty well. Final gloss over to add some shine to this overworked over dark hair issue she created! Now I'm home and I need to lighten my hair more. Of course all of my shampoos are gentle and free of sulfates. I also have very dry hair and was looking forward to working on making it very healhy with great hair products. But now I need to lighten this hair!

Suggestions needed for a shampoo to fade my color and not damage or overly dry my hair. Does that hybrid exist? All suggestions would be very very appreciated.

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SilleeMee — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:40:40 GMT

A hairdresser told me once that Prell shampoo will lighten/remove hair dye in one wash.

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Shelbelle — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:41:02 GMT

I was advised by a color expert at Revlon years ago what to do and it works.

Use either a dandruff shampoo or a clarifying shampoo, lather it onto DRY hair, leave on for at least 30 minutes before rinsing, you can keep repeating until desired results are achieved.

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On It — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:44:22 GMT

A clarifying shampoo will remove fresh color. You might give it a try. I had a hairdresser wash my hair with the old powdered Tide. Tide was hard on colored fabrics but kept whites glistening. I do not know if that stuff is even available today. If you have a Sally's close by, they may have a product designed to remove color. At one time their employees were very knowledgeable.

I would use a hot oil treatment on my hair after trying to remove the color. Ask Sally if they have a good one. Cover it with a plastic cap and let it set for 20 or 30 minutes before washing out.

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Somertime — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 21:50:22 GMT

Mr. Clean will work, seriously!

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Carmie — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 22:24:20 GMT

Mix a little 20v hydrogen peroxide into a little bit of shampoo. I mix in a non metal container...plastic dish is good. Buy the peroxide at Sally or make sure it is the type made for hair. The cream version is less harsh.

Just shampoo without rubbing scalp being gentle. Let sit on hair for 5 minutes and rinse in cool water.

That's how professional colorists do it.

You can buy color remover, but I don't recommend it. It is very damaging.

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customerqvc2 — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 22:29:24 GMT

The same thing happened to me with one of my hair colorings. I looked under my sink for an older shampoo. I found Vidal Sasoon (remember that). Older shampoos always were harsh.

I looked on Amazon and Clairol still makes a clarifying shampoo now called Healthy Scalp and Shampoo Two and Paul Mitchell have similar products.

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moonandthestars — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 23:22:08 GMT

@customerqvc2 @Carmie @Somertime @On It @Shelbelle

Thank you everyone. All good suggestions. I don't know about the Tide and Mr. Clean tho! Not sure I'm brave enough for that.

Question: how do you lather shampoo onto dry hair? Just glob a large amount on?

It's also a good idea about the hot oil treatment because I remember when I used to do them that not only would they help my hair be healthy but they also seemed to fade my color.

My problem .... I mean my original/other problem ... is that I'm not really mobile at this point (had an accident and broke my knee!) so I don't picture myself being able to go in and out of the shower more than once a day for a treatment or be able to leave something in my hair for half hour before rinsing it out. Probably won't want to use any oil either. Safety first!

I'm so upset that this person did this to my hair. It is sooo dark. She tried the professional lifting solutions - looked like powdered detergent that she mixed with water or something but it didn't do much. The highlights are helpful, but the base color still shows through of course and is harsh. I just wanted to feel better about myself/life. I was def. Overdue for color and cut, and wanted cross this off my to do list! Yikes. Ok, whine over. I will say tho the other time this happened to me that after making my hair almost black that hair person lifted the color of my hair so much that it was a weird light orange color. That began another hair color / hair health odyssey. Took many moons to really fix.

I'm going to try the dandruff or clarifying shampoos or prell and see how that works. Send good thoughts!!

Any other ideas, please post.

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Shelbelle — Tue, 10 Oct 2023 23:28:29 GMT

Shampoo will lather perfectly on dry hair, just try it, the key to success with this is to use it on dry hair.

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Carmie — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 00:19:51 GMT

@moonandthestars You didn't mention that your stylist used Effasol to try to remove your color ( powder mixed with water or peroxide) and it didn't work.

If that stuff didn't work, it makes me wonder what kind of color she used.

I would try to go to a professional colorist to get this fixed. If you use harsh chemicals your hair is gonna have the texture of straw.

You need some deep conditioner now.

You could also let it fade on its own and use mayonaise to moisturize. Put it on wet hair, comb through, let it set for 20 minutes and rinse it out with warm, not hot water.

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NYCLatinaMe — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 00:43:48 GMT

@moonandthestars How bad is the dark color? I would keep going to the salon or another salon and let them deal with it. Some stylists would just ask you to wait a couple of weeks, but some may deal with it immediately. The proposed solutions may work to lighten the color, but will you like the color that you get? What will you do if the hair doesn't come out right?

I would let a professional deal with it.

The other day my stylist did my hair darker than I desired (her preference), I said something about it while she was drying it, that we would do lighter next time since I go regularly, but the second time I mentioned the darkness, without saying a word, she just applied new lighter hair color and fixed the problem. Honestly, I was surprised because I go to her regularly, I had said I was willing to wait for my next appointment, and I really didn't want to spend that much time in the salon (I didn't say that), but she said she wanted to do it to make me happy, and I was happy with the color before I left the salon. I was not charged extra, but tipped generously because of the extra work, specially the shampoo girl that did a lot of work and was not at fault!

I wonder what solution your hair person applied. Mine just applied a lighter hair color on top. Previously she had applied ash blond hair color over my salt and pepper and black roots, and bleach highlights. I wouldn't have thought the lighter ash blond color would lighten a darker color, but it did.

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busymom22 — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:01:17 GMT

A week before I got married I had my hair colored (big mistake) and it was way too dark. I got some White Rain cheap shampoo (Prell would work too) and washed my hair a bunch of times. It helped fade it a lot.

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Icegoddess — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:52:09 GMT

There is a product, I believe called Color Oops, that removes hair color. It is designed to remove it all though, and then you would more than likely want to re-color right afterwards since the color that will remain will be what your hair was lifted to while coloring your hair. It's often that shade of orange that people tryng to go blonde have trouble getting past.

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beach-mom — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:56:01 GMT

A hairstylist I know recommend Matrix. I don't know the specific name. Good luck!

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LuvSoCal — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 04:09:52 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
Mix a little 20v hydrogen peroxide into a little bit of shampoo. I mix in a non metal container...plastic dish is good. Buy the peroxide at Sally or make sure it is the type made for hair. The cream version is less harsh.

Just shampoo without rubbing scalp being gentle. Let sit on hair for 5 minutes and rinse in cool water.

That's how professional colorists do it.

You can buy color remover, but I don't recommend it. It is very damaging.

@Carmie What exactly do you mean by a little hydrogen peroxide? Half a teaspoon, 1/4 tsp, pea size? I might give this a try.

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CalminHeart — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:54:21 GMT

Old fashioned Prell strips color. I have no idea if it's even made anymore but it's what hairstylists used back in the 70s and 80s.

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Natureluvr — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:44:16 GMT

It’s hard to recommend a product that helps fade color without drying it out. I was going to suggest Dawn dish soap, but like any other stripping shampoo, it is going to dry out your hair. This happened to me years ago but it was because my overly highlighted hair was so porous when I decided to go back to my natural medium brown. The color was extremely dark. It did fade over the next month or two substantially just from regular washing.

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San Antonio Gal — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 12:09:49 GMT

@Natureluvr wrote:
It’s hard to recommend a product that helps fade color without drying it out. I was going to suggest Dawn dish soap, but like any other stripping shampoo, it is going to dry out your hair. This happened to me years ago but it was because my overly highlighted hair was so porous when I decided to go back to my natural medium brown. The color was extremely dark. It did fade over the next month or two substantially just from regular washing.

@Natureluvr - The same thing happeed to me in 2001. My highighted hair was so porous and when I tried to go back to my naturally brown hair, it turned black! I remember it like it was yesterday. I used Dawn a few times and it eventually faded over the next month or two from regular washing.

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skatting44 — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:24:14 GMT

@moonandthestars

Since you said she already tried some salon product twice and even added highlights, I'd be very very careful because all these products can make the hair so brittle that it breaks and falls off .

I'd go to the hair salon and speak with the owner . What products did she use - brands permanent color semi perm . She what the salon owner has to say and they can call the hair product company . Worse than to dark a color is having your hair so badly damaged it breaks off

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moonandthestars — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 23:02:54 GMT

@Carmie Hi, well I did mention she tried to lift the color (i.e. make it lighter) - not sure of hair lingo sometimes. I do not know what she used but it was a powder that she mixed with a liquid of some kind. We (she) did that 2 x. It did lighten, but just a little bit. She kept on muttering like oh wow, it's it's not really lightening, wow, it's really dark. Wow, you must have really pourus hair.

Maybe I'll text her to find out more about the hair color she used.

The mayo sounds like an interesting idea. That is for conditioning but not for fading, right? Shampoo before not after?