topic Re: Marrionette lines in Beauty

Marrionette lines

Allthingsgirly67 — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 01:28:56 GMT

I’m have marrionette lines not deep and I read that retinol can help. I’m confused as to which is best or if I need the one that requires a prescription. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

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Spacrazy — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 03:26:47 GMT

@Allthingsgirly67 Huh ? Don't quite understand post.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 03:37:48 GMT

I always advocate for prescription RetinA (aka Tretinoin). Retinol is much weaker.

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Icegoddess — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 03:40:45 GMT

It seems to me that marionette lines are caused more by sagging skin than being a wrinkle. As such, it needs something to tighten the skin and I don't think either retinol or prescription Retin-A (or Tretinoin) tightens skin, but I could be wrong.

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Desertdi — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 06:06:11 GMT

@monicakm wrote:
Doesn't everyone have marionette lines to some degree? I know for me, keeping my complexion plump with a lot of hydrating products certainly helps. I was under the impression tretinion was going to help as well. Botox?

@monicakm Juvederm®...and I believe there is a new filler for the lower face. Don't remember the brand name... di

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CalminHeart — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 10:27:07 GMT

These lines run in my family. I look in the mirror now and see Mom. I don't like them but aging is better than the alternative.

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teganslaw — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:07:53 GMT

Tretinoin could soften lines, but if you're looking for a permanent resolution, surgical procedures are your only option. There are many kinds to chose from, depending on what result you wish.

Topical treatments maybe reduce the looks of marionette lines,, but do not get rid of them.. Opting for a type of surgery is the best answer.

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Shanus — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:21:18 GMT

@Allthingsgirly67 I've used RETIN A (RX) for over 35 yrs. beginning with the weakest strength and for a decade or more at the 1.0 level.

Although it does a lot for collagen production underneath the surface, deeper lines like marionaette ones and nasolabial lines cannot be completely erased.

If it really bothers you, fillers may do the job, but my girlfriend had fillers and it caused her face to have an awkward wider jawline...more a masculine trait.

Choose your surgeon or provider very carefully. There is a standard "map" for a woman's face that's triangular with the eyes, nose and mouth in specific areas and a desidered triangular shape that facial plastic surgeons use to keep the lover half of the face in a triangle (narrow) and not squared off or wide.

Too much filler done by someone without a lot of training and experience can lead to those Hollywood mishaps like Madonna, The K family, Meg Ryan, and so many others that now don't look anything like themselves.

If these lines are hereditary, filler done carefully and naturally may be your only recourse.

Wishing you luck if you decide to go that route.

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Shanus — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:23:10 GMT

@monicakm wrote:
Doesn't everyone have marionette lines to some degree? I know for me, keeping my complexion plump with a lot of hydrating products certainly helps. I was under the impression tretinion was going to help as well. Botox?

@monicakm Botox may freeze the muscles especially around the eyes and forehead, but not fill in deep wrinkled areas.

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Desertdi — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 12:37:48 GMT

@Shanus I have deep-set eyes (hollow, not hooded) and also hollow cheeks (just like Dad). I get Voluma® around the outside of my eye socket to the top of my cheekbone. It gives me a "softer" look...not so bony and starving looking.... di

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Allthingsgirly67 — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:14:59 GMT

They are not deep. I was wondering how to obtain the retin A?

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Hmmmmm24 — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:20:43 GMT

@Spacrazy wrote:
@Allthingsgirly67 Huh ? Don't quite understand post.

@Spacrazy I can't believe you're on a Beauty Forum and you don't know what marionette lines are. How about puppet lines? Lines that run from the corners of the mouth downwards.

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Shelbelle — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:25:17 GMT

@Allthingsgirly67 wrote:
They are not deep. I was wondering how to obtain the retin A?

See a dermatologist.

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wvumountiefan — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:25:34 GMT

RetinA must be bought by prescription only in the US, but there are online pharmacies, located in other countries, that you can buy it from. Lots of ladies here can help,with that.

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SilleeMee — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 13:40:31 GMT

I have mild marionette lines and I have been using tretinoin (Retin-A) for many years. Marionette lines look the same, nothing's changed. Had I not used tretinoin then maybe they'd be worse. IDK.

I buy my tretinoin w/o a Rx from AllDayChemist dot com. That's an overseas pharmacy located in India. Take a look. Takes about 3 weeks to receive your order. Prices are exceptionally low but the flat-rate shipping is high so buy multiples per order.

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Effie54 — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 14:24:44 GMT

Return A may only soften the lines. The best bet to get rid of them is filler.

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JoyFilled Warrior — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 16:21:11 GMT

Warning.

Could perhaps be a depressing pic below

Unless, these facial lines are evidence "of a life well lived."

(Nothing against Cosmetic Surgery. Just my own, current personal justification for my own Medical DX History, & expense of Cosmetic Surgery)

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San Antonio Gal — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 16:32:53 GMT

@Allthingsgirly67 - check out "with agency dot com". You can get your Retin A mixed in with other anti aging ingredients mixed in.

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JoyFilled Warrior — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 17:06:45 GMT

@Hmmmmm24 wrote:
@Spacrazy wrote:
@Allthingsgirly67 Huh ? Don't quite understand post.
@Spacrazy I can't believe you're on a Beauty Forum and you don't know what marionette lines are. How about puppet lines? Lines that run from the corners of the mouth downwards.

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@Hmmmmm24

Ouch!

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ManyMeows — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 17:17:02 GMT

I remember Pinocchio complaining about the very same problem. Pledge with real lemon oil was his product of choice. Perfect balance of moisture with a touch of dewy radiance.