topic Re: NO, NO RACHEL in Beauty

NO, NO RACHEL

Shanus — Tue, 24 May 2022 12:26:10 GMT

In the MAC show, Rachel is lining her bottom lid only half way. It needs to be smudged or lined all along the bottom. Looks strange to just stop the liner...obviously not finished.

I like to put liner in the outer corner and smudge with brush or q tip all along bottom lid in a lighter shade than top liner.

How do you do the bottom liner?

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Dusty1 — Tue, 24 May 2022 13:21:37 GMT

The thing I love about makeup is there is no "right" way.

It can be used to enhance your natural face. It can be used to change your natural face. It can be used to make a statement.

Maybe Rachel has tried her eyeliner the way that you think that she should do it & she didn't like the way it looked.

Maybe she does it the way you like some days & on this day she decided to try another way.

I rarely wear my makeup the same way 2 days in a row. And, some days I get out in the world & look in my rearview mirror & think "Well, that was not a great choice.".

I don't do "editorial" looks. I'm not doing wild makeup.

But, somedays it's a thin subtle liner for my eyes. Somedays it's a smudgey liner. Somedays it's just a bit on the outer corner to shape that area.

Dark colors, light colors, barely there colors, a bit of red or purple or blue or orange...not in your face, but just a suggestion.

I love makeup for the possibilities & fun.

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magicmoodz — Tue, 24 May 2022 13:34:40 GMT

@Dusty1

Very well stated. The way we apply our makeup is not static and as you say there is no "right or wrong".

Too judgmental! 👎

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Dusty1 — Tue, 24 May 2022 13:38:25 GMT

@magicmoodz Sometimes it IS about enhancing your looks, of course.

Sometimes it is just about a fun look or a great color that I want to put on my eyes, cheeks or lips.

Sometimes it gets a compliment "You look so great." & that is the makeup that isn't meant to be mentioned. It just helped you look the way that you want to.

Sometimes it's "Wow! I love that eye shadow or lipstick!". The classic red lip that always gets noticed isn't about JUST enhancing your natural beauty. It is meant to grab attention!

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paixmcdao — Tue, 24 May 2022 13:40:51 GMT

@Shanus wrote:
In the MAC show, Rachel is lining her bottom lid only half way. It needs to be smudged or lined all along the bottom. Looks strange to just stop the liner...obviously not finished.

I like to put liner in the outer corner and smudge with brush or q tip all along bottom lid in a lighter shade than top liner.

How do you do the bottom liner?

Good Grief!

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magicmoodz — Tue, 24 May 2022 13:48:22 GMT

@Dusty1 wrote:
@magicmoodz Sometimes it IS about enhancing your looks, of course.
Sometimes it is just about a fun look or a great color that I want to put on my eyes, cheeks or lips.
Sometimes it gets a compliment "You look so great." & that is the makeup that isn't meant to be mentioned. It just helped you look the way that you want to.
Sometimes it's "Wow! I love that eye shadow or lipstick!". The classic red lip that always gets noticed isn't about JUST enhancing your natural beauty. It is meant to grab attention!

@Dusty1

Agreed! I have recently changed the application of my eye makeup and have gotten many compliments. At the same time there might be others who don't like it--which is fine.

I just would not expect them to say "no, no magic, you are doing it all wrong". Even if the comment came from a "bona fide" professional.

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vermint — Tue, 24 May 2022 13:48:35 GMT

My eyes are smallish, so I don't like to line the bottom lid the whole way--especially if I'm using a darker color. But I never do a sharp, defined line...I start at the outer corner and taper it out so there is not an obvious end point.

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Icegoddess — Tue, 24 May 2022 13:50:57 GMT

I line my entire lower lid on the inside right against the lashes with a gel pencil. I've heard lining only half your eye (both top and bottom) opens up the eye making them look larger although I don't care for it on me, especially on the top. I have also tried the smudge thing underneath the eye and that's a no. Gives me the raccoon eye look. I might just do a little smudge at the outer corner.

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PhilaLady1 — Tue, 24 May 2022 14:10:28 GMT

@Shanus does know what she is talking about. I do think that we should all do what we like, though, even if it means that some may think that our application could be better.

Over time, I like myself less and less with liner at the lower lid, even with a lighter color or smudged. Either I don't do that at all, or I line underneath with a medium shade eye shadow.

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RainyDayGal — Tue, 24 May 2022 14:20:20 GMT

THAT'S what you focused on? LOL I couldn't see anything past that awful eye shadow.

I only line my bottom lid maybe 1/3 of the way. That was taught to me by makeup artists years ago, and it works well.

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wagirl — Tue, 24 May 2022 14:21:11 GMT

I watched when she was presenting a bronzer and blush and OMG, she had so much blush on it looked like mud----just kept brushing it on and on------

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Harpa — Tue, 24 May 2022 14:25:41 GMT

I can see if you have close set eyes, you might want to accentuate the outer half. @Shanus , is that what she was doing?

Anyway, I usually avoid the very inner part of the lower lid, but do use a softer shade.

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JudyL — Tue, 24 May 2022 14:59:03 GMT

@Shanus - I line my lower lashes both with pencil or shadow. Usually all the way across but sometimes will smudge in outer corner. I feel bad for Rachel during beauty shows so don't watch when she is hosting - it's just not in her comfort zone and that is so obvious. She's good at other things - just not makeup/beauty shows.

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CANDLEQUEEN — Tue, 24 May 2022 18:04:18 GMT

No, I line my whole eye, not halfway..I only line my upper. I think with Rachel, she is not a big makeup person, so she probably doesnt have a ton of experience, like for instance someone like Shawn ,Amy or Courtney.

I also think that all of then at one time or another have been guilty of too much makeup applied while hosting, especially mascara and blush/bronzers......After a while your eyelashes look like spider legs, and your complexion looks like mud.....

I do love MAC makeup however, especially their lip products....

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Franklinbell — Tue, 24 May 2022 15:06:58 GMT

@Dusty1 I love the comment “well that was not a good choice!” I have had those moments too! I think girl… what were you thinking! And then the next day fab! That’s what makes it fun!!

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ThinkingOutLoud — Tue, 24 May 2022 16:26:15 GMT

I've heard many experts over the years say that if you have smaller eyes, not to line the whole lid so maybe that was Rachel's reasoning.

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Jk9 — Tue, 24 May 2022 16:55:29 GMT

I think @Shanus makes a good point and also that we can do what we think is good for us. I think the partial lower lash liner looks unfinished on some people. Just a matter of how I like to see color and lines. I have big gray/light blue eyes and line/smudge all of my lower lash line. I recently watched the application video of kajal gel liner on Chanel and the model lined the entire lower lash line. With some smudging.

I watched the midnight presentation of the tsv and also thought that way too much blush was applied during the demos. Btw I don't have a problem with how the op stated her post. She gave her opinion and stated how she likes to do something and asked for others input.

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Katcat1 — Tue, 24 May 2022 16:57:50 GMT

If I use it I apply 1/4 to 1/2 of the way and smudge what I applied all the way.

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RollTide2008 — Tue, 24 May 2022 17:14:15 GMT

I like my lower lid in short stokes to the center of my eye.

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Desertdi — Tue, 24 May 2022 17:46:53 GMT

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