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?Ppl's Choice of Cosmetic Surgery/Procedures?

TwinkleBell — Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:51:43 GMT

I think (or hope) I'm more (healthfully) envious, vs distaining, of ppl's choice for Cosmetic Surgery, & Cosm Procedures.

"Envious," predominantly, because I lack the "courage" (& "funds") myself, to take that kind of (elective) plunge.

. . But I admit, I'm happy for others, if it works for them, & sad if it ends up some other person's nightmare, or disappointment.

So ... has society weaned off of distaining, or being critical, of another's choice for such surgical, or professional procedural cosmetic changes for themselves?

. . . Moved beyond that?

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Love my grandkids — Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:41:41 GMT

@TwinkleBell Actually this isn't something I think or worry about.

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Icegoddess — Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:48:26 GMT

Obviously not if you read the Amy Morrison thread.

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Desertdi — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:07:20 GMT

Same as weight-loss surgery -- Nobody else's business

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september — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:12:06 GMT

I'm not sure why people would be critical of how another person spends their money, be it on cosmetic procedures, dining out, cars, or anything else.

As for myself, two + years after moving to a new part of the country, I finally had my first appt with a dermatologist recently, for a whole body skin check.

I asked about a cosmetics consult (probably for laser and fillers ). There is a two month wait! I took the next available appt. Obviously, lots of ladies are booking these consults.

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Trinity11 — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:14:55 GMT

I think if someone is dissatisfied with their appearance enough to go under the knife, then it is their prerogative. Just don't try and sell me some wrinkle cream and tell me you look that way because of the cream. 😉

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SilleeMee — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:51:38 GMT

I give credit to someone who reveals that they have had some work done instead of pretending their 'look' is natural. To me there's nothing attractive about 'looking good' and saying it's good genes when I know it's something they've done to look that way.

The best kind of procedures are the ones you really don't notice. They're the kind where it makes someone look like a better version of themselves, not different-looking but naturally more fresh-looking.

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ellaphant — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:57:00 GMT

I had my upper eyelids done. 100% fabulous and natural results. Painless procedure.

My eyes now look exactly as they did before the drooping. I can wear eye makeup again and no more crepey skin!

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Cookiequeen — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 02:03:06 GMT

"I had my upper eyelids done. 100% fabulous and natural results. Painless procedure.

My eyes now look exactly as they did before the drooping. I can wear eye makeup again and no more crepey skin! "

Eye dr or plastic sugeon? ... want mine done so bad!

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JeanLouiseFinch — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:26:56 GMT

I don't care what others do, just don't lie about it. From time to time I think about skin reduction surgery but I know I won't go through with it. At my age, I waffle back and forth about the expense and question its worth this late in life. I don't wear shorts or short sleeves. DH is the only one who sees the hidden parts.

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ellaphant — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 02:54:49 GMT

@Cookiequeen wrote:
"I had my upper eyelids done. 100% fabulous and natural results. Painless procedure.
My eyes now look exactly as they did before the drooping. I can wear eye makeup again and no more crepey skin! "
Eye dr or plastic sugeon? ... want mine done so bad!

I consulted with 2 plastic surgeons. Extremely pleased with the surgeon I selected!

No general anesthesia - its done with local and numbing cream.

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Shanus — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:28:38 GMT

I've seen many procedures up close and personal. Some women admit it and others at 65 and look much younger who deny having anything done.

When applying makeup, there are faint scars in front and behind the ears, a slight "line" in the fold of the lid or a crease an inch back under the hairline...dead giveaway of a brow lift.

Professionally, I cannot confront anyone, but I do think it's ridiculous not to admit having something done to your face/neck and then think I'm not seeing the slight scarring.

There's definitely nothing wrong with turning back the clock, using lazers to remove sun damage, hooded lids repaired, etc. Just don't tell me when I'm a 1/4" from your face that you have a great cream to share with me, your mom or grandmother had great genes and that's why you look 10 -15 years younger than your age and sometimes (if not a good surgeon) so pulled back and shiny like they've been in a wind tunnel.

There certainly is nothing wrong with choosing these options. It is your face and your money. Just be honest about it with someone who's seen my share of good and bad surgeries.

Lazers can leave scaring because they weren't done by someone with enough experience or an eyelid lift done by a derm with no knowledge like that of a board certified facial plastic surgeon. One slip of the scapel and an artery can be cut causing bleeding under the skin or irreparable damage to the face...the same with cutting a small muscle or nerve that leaves the face lopsided or one slightly sagging brow.

If anyone decides to have a procedure, please go to a facial plastic surgeon and pay the extra money. Med Spa technicians take a 6 week course doing deep lazer resurfacing. They'd never touch my face. Even derms are sometimes not specially trained in the nerve/muscle/artery patterns beneath the skin and are best suited for surface issues. They never come near me with a knife.

Choose your procedure and surgeon carefully after interviewing and consulting with several docs. Ask for a booklet with photos of before and afters to see if that's your esthetic or the women look overdone and unnatural.

Perhaps my best advice is there's nothing wrong with the natural aging process. We have so much more to offer than an "ironed" face or spotless skin. Stand proud and know we're all beautiful in our own way...and yes from the inside.

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ellaphant — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 14:36:05 GMT

@Shanus wrote:
I've seen many procedures up close and personal. Some women admit it and others at 65 and look much younger who deny having anything done.

When applying makeup, there are faint scars in front and behind the ears, a slight "line" in the fold of the lid or a crease an inch back under the hairline...dead giveaway of a brow lift.

Professionally, I cannot confront anyone, but I do think it's ridiculous not to admit having something done to your face/neck and then think I'm not seeing the slight scarring.

There's definitely nothing wrong with turning back the clock, using lazers to remove sun damage, hooded lids repaired, etc. Just don't tell me when I'm a 1/4" from your face that you have a great cream to share with me, your mom or grandmother had great genes and that's why you look 10 -15 years younger than your age and sometimes (if not a good surgeon) so pulled back and shiny like they've been in a wind tunnel.

There certainly is nothing wrong with choosing these options. It is your face and your money. Just be honest about it with someone who's seen my share of good and bad surgeries.

Lazers can leave scaring because they weren't done by someone with enough experience or an eyelid lift done by a derm with no knowledge like that of a board certified facial plastic surgeon. One slip of the scapel and an artery can be cut causing bleeding under the skin or irreparable damage to the face...the same with cutting a small muscle or nerve that leaves the face lopsided or one slightly sagging brow.

If anyone decides to have a procedure, please go to a facial plastic surgeon and pay the extra money. Med Spa technicians take a 6 week course doing deep lazer resurfacing. They'd never touch my face. Even derms are sometimes not specially trained in the nerve/muscle/artery patterns beneath the skin and are best suited for surface issues. They never come near me with a knife.

Choose your procedure and surgeon carefully after interviewing and consulting with several docs. Ask for a booklet with photos of before and afters to see if that's your esthetic or the women look overdone and unnatural.

Perhaps my best advice is there's nothing wrong with the natural aging process. We have so much more to offer than an "ironed" face or spotless skin. Stand proud and know we're all beautiful in our own way...and yes from the inside.

You get a "1/4"" from peoples' faces? Yikes! You and your rant are scary!

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Sooner — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 14:42:56 GMT

You can smooth some wrinkles, but you can't make you a prettier person by fluffing up the outside. It can't make people love you.

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RainyDayGal — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:45:24 GMT

@ellaphant wrote:
I had my upper eyelids done. 100% fabulous and natural results. Painless procedure.
My eyes now look exactly as they did before the drooping. I can wear eye makeup again and no more crepey skin!

I don't consider that elective plastic surgery, unless you did it for cosmetic reasons. Most people I know that have it done did it because it was interfering with their eyesite.

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DiamondsandGold — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 20:37:20 GMT

Trinity11, I totally agree with you!!!!

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ellaphant — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 23:18:10 GMT

@RainyDayGal wrote:
@ellaphant wrote:
I had my upper eyelids done. 100% fabulous and natural results. Painless procedure.
My eyes now look exactly as they did before the drooping. I can wear eye makeup again and no more crepey skin!
I don't consider that elective plastic surgery, unless you did it for cosmetic reasons. Most people I know that have it done did it because it was interfering with their eyesite.

Um, yeah, I sure did do it for cosmetic reasons! Looked tired and eye makeup looked terrible.

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ellaphant — Fri, 15 Apr 2022 23:21:51 GMT

@Trinity11 wrote:
I think if someone is dissatisfied with their appearance enough to go under the knife, then it is their prerogative. Just don't try and sell me some wrinkle cream and tell me you look that way because of the cream. 😉

Agree! And while many Q beauty vendors may not have had cosmetic surgery, they definitely use botox and fillers and want viewers to believe a cream can bring that result.

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Mindy D — Sat, 16 Apr 2022 01:06:08 GMT

@ellaphant She is a professional makeup artist.

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chrystaltree — Sat, 16 Apr 2022 01:11:21 GMT

I don't understand what point you are trying to make. Cosmetic procedures are valid options for people decide to have them.