topic Re: How do they do it??? in Beauty

How do they do it???

Skyegirl21 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:04:16 GMT

Ok, I am forever complaining about my challenging, coarse, wiry, dry, hair that I can never keep frizz-free in summer, no matter what I use or do (drawer full of hair products). So I went to a salon to get highlights, and she blow dried it, then flat ironed it using the typical technique they use (to my chagrin) as I thought it would frizz immediately leaving the salon.
How wrong I was !! What?? It has held frizz - free in 100% humidity for several days (wearing a shower cap)- I am freaking amazed!! So what do you think is the secret?? Was it the products? She used Goldwell and KMS. Was it technique?? Was it the salon blow dryer?

If you have difficult hair, what are your tips for blow drying and staying frizz-free?? I NEED to be able to replicate this- Thanks forum friends! 💝

Re: How do they do it???

phoenixbrd — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:12:08 GMT

@Skyegirl21 I can't wait for the answers. Unfortunately, I suspect it might have been the flat iron that made the difference. I do get positive results from a flat-iron, but over time I also get dry damaged hair....not a good trade-off. So for a special occasion, it is an answer....long term, a disaster. The journey continues....

Re: How do they do it???

shaggygirl — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:26:24 GMT

The flat iron. There are products on the market you can use before flat ironing (and blow drying) to protect it from heat damage. But you still don't want to put it on the highest heat. And move it quckly down your hair, don't let it just sit on the same spot.

Re: How do they do it???

SilleeMee — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:33:55 GMT

The products used probably contained a good deal of silicones. That would be my best guess.

Re: How do they do it???

jackthebear — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:40:42 GMT

@Skyegirl21 wrote:
Ok, I am forever complaining about my challenging, coarse, wiry, dry, hair that I can never keep frizz-free in summer, no matter what I use or do (drawer full of hair products). So I went to a salon to get highlights, and she blow dried it, then flat ironed it using the typical technique they use (to my chagrin) as I thought it would frizz immediately leaving the salon.
How wrong I was !! What?? It has held frizz - free in 100% humidity for several days (wearing a shower cap)- I am freaking amazed!! So what do you think is the secret?? Was it the products? She used Goldwell and KMS. Was it technique?? Was it the salon blow dryer?
If you have difficult hair, what are your tips for blow drying and staying frizz-free?? I NEED to be able to replicate this- Thanks forum friends! 💝

someone with a good blowout technique and product in the hair

I just found a young lady who does the best blowouts ever and I have had 100s

Re: How do they do it???

Jaspersmom — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:16:54 GMT

I don't know if this will help, but here's a suggestion. I've always had straight as an arrow, shiny hair. In the last two years, my hair has developed a wave that drives me insane. I can blow dry my hair and it will be straight, but in five minutes, the wave starts moving in. Anyway, when I go to my hairdresser, she is able to do something that keeps my hair straight. Honestly, she uses just a tiny bit of product and then blows it out. So the last time I saw her, I told her my frustration when I do my own hair. She explained that since my hair is turning gray, the outer layers of the hair shafts have been stripped of color and as a result, tend to curl. She showed me what she uses on my hair - Noodle Head Beyond the Zone. Believe it or not, it's for curly hair, but it works to relax curls and waves and yes, it works. You can get it in beauty supply places or from online sellers.

Re: How do they do it???

Dusty1 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:25:55 GMT

@Skyegirl21 My daughter doesn't really style her hair much (3 children-9,7 & 5), but she started using the Ecoslay brand of hair care & her hair looks amazing.

She has masses of frizzy (Sorry baby.) hair.

She does yoga with a woman on youtube & actually messaged her to see what she used on her hair.

She gave me some of the Banana Cream deep conditioner to try on my hair, which is the exact opposite of her hair. Stick straight & thin, but the conditioner is fabulous.

You should contact them for recommendations & try it.

Re: How do they do it???

Janey2 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:47:02 GMT

I think it is mostly the technique. My hair is extremely frizzy in the summer months. Nothing, and I mean nothing I do gets rid of the frizz. When I get my hair blown out it is straight and will last until I wash it. The stylist just uses a blow dryer, no flat iron.

Re: How do they do it???

x Hedge — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:58:41 GMT

@Skyegirl21

Simply put, to do this without damaging your hair:

It's all about first getting your hair's cuticle to lay flat while it's still sopping wet by starting with good ingredients that are effective.

Second, applying products that resist the humidity, using tools and a technique that doesn't raise the cuticle. If your products are good but your techniques are lacking, you'll still get frizz.

Third, getting from wet to dry without without doing anything that damages or raises the cuticle. It isn't the hairdryer. I may use a diffuser, or dry in the sun. In winter I just use the space heater that's on in the room anyhow.

My hair is below my shoulder blades, coarse on top, fine below, wirey, dry, and my curls have fragile kinks. After decades of uncontrollable frizzy broken hair, I'm now frizz free.

Re: How do they do it???

ThinkingOutLoud — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 14:01:34 GMT

@Skyegirl21 wrote:
Ok, I am forever complaining about my challenging, coarse, wiry, dry, hair that I can never keep frizz-free in summer, no matter what I use or do (drawer full of hair products). So I went to a salon to get highlights, and she blow dried it, then flat ironed it using the typical technique they use (to my chagrin) as I thought it would frizz immediately leaving the salon.
How wrong I was !! What?? It has held frizz - free in 100% humidity for several days (wearing a shower cap)- I am freaking amazed!! So what do you think is the secret?? Was it the products? She used Goldwell and KMS. Was it technique?? Was it the salon blow dryer?
If you have difficult hair, what are your tips for blow drying and staying frizz-free?? I NEED to be able to replicate this- Thanks forum friends! 💝

If you think about it, the salon person understood the products, tools, techniques - and knew she could achieve a certain outcome. Your thoughts create your reality so change the negative words you're using (bolded) and hold the belief that you have wonderful hair and can get the result you want every time.

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Shanus — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 14:01:56 GMT

@Skyegirl21 As someone with wavy/slightly curly hair, I've tried many products and techniques. I've tried wearing itlong (way too much work) and went back to my life long pixie...keeps the waves/curls in check.

Products used include sulfate free s&c...very drying. Deep conditioner twice a week helps a lot. According to my stylist and my own experience, frizz is caused by dry hair that will suck up any moisture in the air to repair itself. If you coat it w/ silicone, conditioners can't get in the hair shaft. Sulfate shampoo is needed to remove the silicones and sulfates further dry out your hair.

I always use a heat protectant before applying mousse. I have found good blow-dry products by Bumble Bumble and my latest is Kenra Perfect Blow Out. If they have silicones, I only use them occasionally when I want a smooth look for going out special. It's not an every day thing because I know it will further dry out my hair.

***My hair is grey/silver/white. Some women who have grey hair do experience some wiry, dry hair. If you color your hair, but have grey hair underneath, those hairs are still a different texture. If I do use an iron, I keep the temp at 325 to keep from burning, damaging my hair.

Re: How do they do it???

spent2much — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:30:29 GMT

@ThinkingOutLoud wrote:
@Skyegirl21 wrote:
Ok, I am forever complaining about my challenging, coarse, wiry, dry, hair that I can never keep frizz-free in summer, no matter what I use or do (drawer full of hair products). So I went to a salon to get highlights, and she blow dried it, then flat ironed it using the typical technique they use (to my chagrin) as I thought it would frizz immediately leaving the salon.
How wrong I was !! What?? It has held frizz - free in 100% humidity for several days (wearing a shower cap)- I am freaking amazed!! So what do you think is the secret?? Was it the products? She used Goldwell and KMS. Was it technique?? Was it the salon blow dryer?
If you have difficult hair, what are your tips for blow drying and staying frizz-free?? I NEED to be able to replicate this- Thanks forum friends! 💝

If you think about it, the salon person understood the products, tools, techniques - and knew she could achieve a certain outcome. Your thoughts create your reality so change the negative words you're using (bolded) and hold the belief that you have wonderful hair and can get the result you want every time.

Surely you jest!

Re: How do they do it???

tends2dogs — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:38:24 GMT

Personally, I would live with the coarse, wiry, dry hair before I ever went several days (wearing a shower cap) without washing my hair and head. JMHO

Re: How do they do it???

Skyegirl21 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 17:26:57 GMT

Well I am going to be trying out these ideas and suggestions and I will report back!! Thank you all!
@ThinkingOutLoud , Haha, I betcha you have straight easy hair, am I right?? If you had porous, outta control hair, you might understand frizz is not caused by thoughts-
@tends2dogs , Haha lot of people only wash their only once a week, some even less, If you had super dry hair, you might understand that it's not harmful or unclean at all.

Re: How do they do it???

Katcat1 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 17:49:27 GMT

@Skyegirl21 You need to ask the hair stylist that dried, ironed your hair. Ask if it was product or the iron technique that kept your hair straight.

Re: How do they do it???

x Hedge — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 18:45:38 GMT

@Skyegirl21 wrote:
Well I am going to be trying out these ideas and suggestions and I will report back!! Thank you all!

@ , Haha, I betcha you have straight easy hair, am I right?? If you had porous, outta control hair, you might understand frizz is not caused by thoughts-
No, it's not. But seriously now, are you unaware of the causes? High humidity is only one. Straight A-1 type hair can be frizzy. And porous vs non-porus is a separate issue.

@ , Haha lot of people only wash their only once a week, some even less, If you had super dry hair, you might understand that it's not harmful or unclean at all.
@Skyegirl21 , most people here wash their hair because it's oily/dirty, and gets greasier with every passing day. Given enough time between washes, it tends to gather in stringy clumps when really dirty.

Do you wash your hair not because it gets greasy, but gets drier and more crispy as each day passes, and washing temporarily restores some moisture, softness, and control? Instead of a stringy gathering together, does it seem each hair is trying to get as far away as possible from every other hair between washes?

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depglass — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:50:03 GMT

Yes, that must be it, I have anti-social hair.

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riley1 — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 20:39:07 GMT

@Skyegirl21 oh the frizzees - yes, I have them. For many years I received a Keratin treatment which lasted about 4 months.

Then, I found products that work well in the very humid area I live. First, do not use a regular towel to dry your hair. Either use a microfiber towel or do as I do by using a very old cotton t-shirt and "plopping" it on my head to take the excess water out.

I apply product to my hair and let it air dry. I found the blow dryer makes things worse. The flat iron is ok but my hair is also wavy/curly so it takes a hot iron to get it really straight.

Good Luck.

Re: How do they do it???

tsavorite — Mon, 30 Aug 2021 21:29:30 GMT

@Skyegirl21 wrote:
Ok, I am forever complaining about my challenging, coarse, wiry, dry, hair that I can never keep frizz-free in summer, no matter what I use or do (drawer full of hair products). So I went to a salon to get highlights, and she blow dried it, then flat ironed it using the typical technique they use (to my chagrin) as I thought it would frizz immediately leaving the salon.
How wrong I was !! What?? It has held frizz - free in 100% humidity for several days (wearing a shower cap)- I am freaking amazed!! So what do you think is the secret?? Was it the products? She used Goldwell and KMS. Was it technique?? Was it the salon blow dryer?
If you have difficult hair, what are your tips for blow drying and staying frizz-free?? I NEED to be able to replicate this- Thanks forum friends! 💝

@Skyegirl21 You need to call her ASAP and get the secret and post it here right away! LOL

I have crazy frizzy wild hair that grows like a chia pet once I step outside no matter what I use or do. Sure they beat it down at the salon but in humid weather it goes into a fuzz ball on my head.

Perhaps the flat ironing does the trick for your hair? Mine wouldn't hold with that if humidty/dew point high enough.