topic Re: Proper Cleansing Makes a Difference in Beauty

Proper Cleansing Makes a Difference

JeanLouiseFinch — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:11:27 GMT

I normally do a single cleanse (mild glycolic cleanser) in the AM and a double cleanse (cleansing balm and gentle cleanser) at night, but I've gotten a bit lazy about using my sonic cleansing brush and most of the time I'm hurrying the cleansing step so I can get to the rest of my routine.

The past week or so, I've intentionally taken notice to change that, taking the time to thoroughly, but gently, massage the products into my face and then using my cleansing tool for the entire cycle. IMO it's made a noticeable difference to set the rest of my routine up for better success.

Re: Proper Cleansing Makes a Difference

MJDinVegas — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 00:35:15 GMT

Hi, @JeanLouiseFinch ! I think cleansing does make a difference especially depending on whether I'm wearing make-up or not. Usually, I do mt woman-scaping routine (shaving with cream and a razor, exfoliation with Tatcha Rice Powder on Saturday.

My normal routine is is moisturizer with SPF, eye cream, Roche-Posay cream for neck and chest daily in the am. In the evening, nornmally, is PTR retinol on face, Roche-Posay cream on nect and chest, night moisturizer and eye cream. I use Olay day and night on face and Hope in a Tube on my eye area lip and naso-labial folds.

On days I wear makeup, I skip the eye cream in the morning, use Tatcha silk canvas and Urban Decay eye primer before I apply makeup. When I'm ready to remove it I use eye makeup remover (from Kroger) and Neutrogena cleansing cloths. Then wash with Lancome Rose Comfort Cream and my Foreo Luna to remove embedded junk. Then treat with PTR retinol mixed with JM Arian oil (got a sample), Korres olive loik or Tarte Maracuja oil. Maybe moisturizer and eye cream just before bed.

I'm 65 going on 66 in August and have great skin. I have to believe, though, it's more my genetics than the products I apply!

This is probably way more info than you were bargaining for but I guess I'm in the mood to share. Sorry if it's too much TMI!

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ECBG — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 00:45:30 GMT

Absolutely! I noticed a massive change in the "I don't like that" area when I used my glycolic face wash daily. Everything changed!

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MJDinVegas — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 01:28:56 GMT

@monicakm , hello! I'm not sure what draws a lot of folks here except the cost of living is lower than along the coast. We have a son an grandkids in Huntington Beach and a son in San Luis Obispo, so this was the place to settle when we moved back from the Big Island of Hawaii.

That said, there's a lot of opportunity here for people seeking beauty services, perhaps at a better price than in CA. We have a lot of folks moving from there. Also, I think the heat helps clear out the skin -the key is to keep it clean and hydrated and protected from the sun.

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Skyegirl21 — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 01:38:31 GMT

I must be the exception ... I have resistant skin. No matter what I do, i never see a difference. I have tried all the lines, and nothing. So I do the very minimal!

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Katcat1 — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 02:02:01 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch I notice a big difference when I use the InstaNatural glycolic cleanser. It really cleans my skin. In the morning I use Kylie Skin foam cleanser which turns into a lather but gentle. I use one serum at night for hydration and not every night. My routine is cleanse, Vanilla Milk toner by Kylie Skin (this not only smells wonderful it is good to minimize pores) and moisturizer. In fact July 15 Kylie Skin will be all Vegan.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 02:59:03 GMT

@monicakm wrote:
All my skincare products I've been using for over a year has done terrific things for my face. Then about 2-3 months ago I added TO's Glycolic Acid and that took it to another level! So glad my skin can tolerate it now. It couldn't about a year ago when I tried it.

@monicakm I've been on a break from an actual glycolic treatment step for awhile after getting carried away with too much exfoliating. I use Tretinoin every night. I'm looking forward to using a glycolic toner a couple mornings a week, I've been watching James Welsh a lot lately and have taken his cue to try a wet routine, misting between everything - Bulgarian Rose water in the morning and Galactomyces First Essence in the afternoon/early evening. So far, so good, but I don't know if I'll stick with it or how long. I've also changed my evening system to washing and moisturizer early and then Tretinoin at bedtime. All good.

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wagirl — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:36:41 GMT

I was getting pretty lazy about my skin too, just the bare things ---and boy does it show!! so back to my Mia at night then the night time skin care and the during the day adding spf. have pretty nice skin at age 67, thanks to good genes, but it was looking pretty rugged--taken me a few months tho-----

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kate2357 — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 14:51:22 GMT

@monicakm wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

misting between everything

I do that too! I'm still using Missha First Treatment Essence 5x. That man could tell me to smear my face with donkey poo and I'd do it Talk about dreamy! I haven't listened to Robert and his pod cast tonight. One of few men who can get away with whining and look sexy while doing it

@monicakm @JeanLouiseFinch

Sorry to bust into your comments, but I was curious about the comment, misting between everything. I have wanted to incorporate rose water in my routine and have been wondering when would I do that? I double clense at night, then use PC BHA Liquid Exfoliant, then my moisturizer. Would I mist w/ rose water after the BHA and before the moisturizer to see the best results or after the cleansing? TIA.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:37:15 GMT

@kate2357 wrote:
@monicakm wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinch

misting between everything

I do that too! I'm still using Missha First Treatment Essence 5x. That man could tell me to smear my face with donkey poo and I'd do it Talk about dreamy! I haven't listened to Robert and his pod cast tonight. One of few men who can get away with whining and look sexy while doing it

@monicakm @JeanLouiseFinch
Sorry to bust into your comments, but I was curious about the comment, misting between everything. I have wanted to incorporate rose water in my routine and have been wondering when would I do that? I double clense at night, then use PC BHA Liquid Exfoliant, then my moisturizer. Would I mist w/ rose water after the BHA and before the moisturizer to see the best results or after the cleansing? TIA.

No worries, @kate2357. Welcome to the conversation! I use my rose water primarily in the morning but you can use it AM and PM, if you like. That would be really good for your skin. I keep mine in a continuous mist spray bottle (cheap on Amazon). My first spritz is immediately after cleansing, like a toning step, and then in between any following steps. In your description of your PM a routine, I don't think it matters to that large of a degree, which order you do it in, since both are liquidy. If the BHA a is thicker or oilier, I'd do that second. One thing I will mention, though, is to research the rose water you choose. Some brands are very deceitful by having a water mixture with rose scent added to it rather than a true distillation of the rose petals. Heritage is a popular brand and lots of people like it, but it's not a true distillation, it's water with rose oil added. If that's what you want, fine. Just know what you're buying. 👍

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kate2357 — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:34:05 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch

Thank you for your reply. I was considering ordering ordering the Rose Water Toner by Teak Naturals. The information indicates they use a distallation process. Again, thank you for your assitance on how to use the rose water. Hope you have a fabulous day.

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SilleeMee — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:53:52 GMT

My skin is actually doing better w/o all of the cleansing I normally do to remove makeup and sunscreen. I haven't been going out much and that means less makeup and sunscreen so most of my cleansing is done with just a washcloth and water to rinse off any skincare products which I have applied the night before. My skin looks healthy and glowing. It hasn't looked this good in a while I have to say.

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goldensrbest — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:59:19 GMT

I look so darn old, will be 70, all the years,have really showed up on my face , if i could afford getting something done , i would,but can not, so have to live with it. And i think stress has really done a job on me.

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wilma — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:57:07 GMT

@Skyegirl21 wrote:
I must be the exception ... I have resistant skin. No matter what I do, i never see a difference. I have tried all the lines, and nothing. So I do the very minimal!

@Skyegirl21

You're not the only one. I've tried lots of lines and proven ingredients. Nothing completely solves my skin issues.

Paula's Choice BHA has helped some, but I truly believe genetics, stress, & other health issues play a huge role. I keep trying new products and formulations, but I have yet to find any product I would rave about.

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JudyL — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:02:22 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinch I agree re cleansing! So important. I must be doing something right with my skin care. A few weeks ago I was out with my DD who is 43 and I'll be 67 in August. We got our drinks and as she lifted her glass and said "here's to you Mom" our waitress came over and said "You're her mom! I genuinely thought you were sisters! You have gorgeous skin." I was like Wahoooo!!! I know a lot of it is genes - thank you mom and dad - but I also try and take good care of my skin.

Thanks to all of you who have made recommendations and reviewed products, etc., because I've tried a lot of things that I now use because of posts I've read here.

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tends2dogs — Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:06:04 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
My skin is actually doing better w/o all of the cleansing I normally do to remove makeup and sunscreen. I haven't been going out much and that means less makeup and sunscreen so most of my cleansing is done with just a washcloth and water to rinse off any skincare products which I have applied the night before. My skin looks healthy and glowing. It hasn't looked this good in a while I have to say.

@SilleeMee I was just thinking about that the other day. I always cleanse my face (even if I haven't worn makeup) at night before applying my RA. I want to remove all traces of the day, including my SPF.

But in the morning I have been doing what you are doing - a wipe down with a warm cloth. Then, my SPF. I have had no issues doing this and I think it has spared my skin. In my youth when I had break outs, I never would have done this....BUT I am no longer in my youth LOL!

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tends2dogs — Tue, 13 Jul 2021 17:20:24 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
I look so darn old, will be 70, all the years,have really showed up on my face , if i could afford getting something done , i would,but can not, so have to live with it. And i think stress has really done a job on me.

@goldensrbest I think that sometimes we are our own worst enemy, but I have to say that I feel the same way as far as having aged a lot in the last few years. Ten years or so ago, I lost my mom and dad within a year of each other. During this time my husband had a bone marrow transplant. Ten years prior to that point, he was being treated for cancer. Also, my dog died. I agree about stress being a total ager. That is when I really began to age rapidly. I have also lost weight in the last 18 months that I didn't need to lose and that has done a number on my face, too.

If I wanted to begin the facial procedure parade I could. I am afraid that I will look worse than I do now. I do the best with what I can myself and then just go on and live life. I really don't think about it until I look in the mirror. I count my blessings that I am healthy. My husband is cured. I have a dog I love. We have more than we deserve, we know that, and we are thankful.

Count your blessings, @goldensrbest , not your wrinkles. Have a happy day!

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kate2357 — Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:26:51 GMT

@monicakm

Thank you. I appreciate the suggestions and tips. Can't wait to try the rose water.