topic Re: Toxic Makeup in Beauty

Toxic Makeup

Katcat1 — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 19:25:03 GMT

There was an article about a 25 year old survivor of cancer and she stopped using toxic makeup. Burt Bees lip gloss had traces of lead, now I am not sure what made these products toxic but they are Two Faced Better than Sex mascara; Neutrogena wipes; Nars glow foundation; and there are others.

Where do we go to find out what is harmful in our makeup?

Re: Toxic Makeup

Nightowlz — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 19:52:46 GMT

Check out Cosmily dot com all you have to do is copy & paste your ingredients to see an analysis.

I just checked out my Lord Jones acid mantel repair moisturizer. It looks good except maybe the Inula Helenium Extract which shows 5-8 med-high hazard. I will have to search it now.

You can also Google ingredient checker. Click on Byrdie site which lists apps plus websites that you can use.

Re: Toxic Makeup

Katcat1 — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:36:09 GMT

@Nightowlz Thank you. I will check out Cosmily.com

Re: Toxic Makeup

morganjen — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 21:24:38 GMT

The Ennvironmental Working Group has a section on personal care products:

https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/

Re: Toxic Makeup

Icegoddess — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 21:52:48 GMT

I just checked Cosmily for the Sheer Glow foundation since I use it. Judging by their analysis, unless you want to eliminate all silicones from your life, I think you'll have a hard time following in this lady's footsteps. The ingredient that got the highest rating of EWG 3 (Moderate Hazared) was Cyclopentasiloxane. It's a silicone. Dimethicone, another silicone, got a EWG 1-3 (Safe to Moderate Hazard). Then there was PEG-Dimethicone which is a silicone which has polyethylene glycol added to it which makes it water soluble. It was rated as EWG 1-3 (Safe to Moderate Hazard). It wasn't identified specifically as a silicone the others were, but it was identified as a PEG. There is no mention on the site about that.

However, for me, the most troublesome ingredient is the PEG-Dimethicone. The reason being that PEG's often contain impurities that have been closely tied to breast cancer and should not be used on broken skin. I find this more concerning than the parabens that get such a bad rap.

That being said, I won't stop using it. I do have other options if I end up with a scratch or zit on a day I need to wear makeup. I do avoid PEG's in my shampoos and conditioners though

Re: Toxic Makeup

Shanus — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 13:42:00 GMT

@Katcat1 Every time you read an article, some other ingredient is harmful, causes cancer....even some brands that clain they're "clean beauty", you cand find a few "iffy" ingredients.

Many of these would have to be ingested to do intense harm. Findings are reported on using large amounts of the ingredient over a period of time.

Silicones in particular, are only harmful to me for the way they cause a product to perform...makeup to be slippery, primer to cause makeup to pill, keep hair from retaining/accepting moisture.

There will be foods, lotions, beauty products that are reported to be "toxic". Make your own decisions how far down the ingredient deck they appear and if they're really hazardous.

No one can keep up with these daily changing and differerent opinions.

Re: Toxic Makeup

marmarbrooklyn — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 14:07:48 GMT

@Shanus

Hi I agree with you .

8 years ago I decided to go cruelty free after adopting my rescue puppy. After about a year or so I dabbled in organic , clean, green beauty . I do enjoy using these brands makeup products but I will say you have to really be careful . Everything including water is a chemical . I got some of the worst skin issues from these products . Horrible welts from natural deodorants ,eye styes from eye creams and redness from certain oils on my face. Its difficult to decide many green brands will talk about the dangers of chemicals. Dr Dray has a great video on green beauty that is very interesting . I feel if someone has serious health issues like cancer , or auto immune diseases they should speak to their doctors on risks not just make decisions based on marketing .

Re: Toxic Makeup

NYCLatinaMe — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 18:26:58 GMT

@Katcat1 wrote:
There was an article about a 25 year old survivor of cancer and she stopped using toxic makeup. Burt Bees lip gloss had traces of lead, now I am not sure what made these products toxic but they are Two Faced Better than Sex mascara; Neutrogena wipes; Nars glow foundation; and there are others.
Where do we go to find out what is harmful in our makeup?

@Katcat1 I looked for this article because I use Neutrogena wipes and was concerned, and I just wanted to highlight that the article does not state that most of these products are toxic. The only product with specific complaints are Burt’s Bees lipstick, which she claims has tested positive for traces of lead, and soaps and lotions, which she claims contain synthetic fragrances, which the article claims cause disruptions within our hormones. That is news to me, but I didn't research. Synthetic fragrances are everywhere and hard to avoid

The other products mentioned in that article are just products that the cancer survivor won't use for reasons that maybe personal to her and not about toxicity.

I did some additional research on the Neutrogena wipes and the worst I found is generally that wipes are not as good at cleaning without a finishing rinse with water because MAYBE the wipe just spreads the dirt around without removing it. Also, generally, wipes are are not as good for the environment if they are not biodegradable, which the I do not know whether the Neutrogena wipes are or not.

So this cancer survivor is just telling us about products she won't use, not whether the products are toxic.

Big difference.

Re: Toxic Makeup

Lucky Charm — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 21:01:02 GMT

The entire line I use for shamp/cond, deod, body lotion and all face makeup--has a certified toxic free emblem on it. It's also organic, made in the USA, and animal cruelty free.

I love it.

Suzanne Organics.

Re: Toxic Makeup

Katcat1 — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 02:07:30 GMT

@NYCLatinaMe I differ with you because at the beginning of the article it stated that following are the products that she considered toxic and following that were the products she now uses. I think everyone has to make a decision of what they want to use.

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Katcat1 — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 02:10:32 GMT

@Shanus I totally agree with you. However, I started using the Cosmity.com it was very interesting to find that Versed which is sold at Target and quite reasonable was really clean and so was The Ordinary. So you don't have to spend $$$ to get really good skincare. Another one that was very clean was Kylie skincare.

Re: Toxic Makeup

Shanus — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 02:45:36 GMT

@Katcat1 wrote:
@Shanus I totally agree with you. However, I started using the Cosmity.com it was very interesting to find that Versed which is sold at Target and quite reasonable was really clean and so was The Ordinary. So you don't have to spend $$$ to get really good skincare. Another one that was very clean was Kylie skincare.

@Katcat1 I think each person reads and decides for herself. I make many educated choices, but can't, don't and won't make myself crazy checking every ingredient...The "good" ones sometimes become the "bad" ones over night.

Re: Toxic Makeup

NYCLatinaMe — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:15:31 GMT

@Katcat1 wrote:
@NYCLatinaMe I differ with you because at the beginning of the article it stated that following are the products that she considered toxic and following that were the products she now uses. I think everyone has to make a decision of what they want to use.

@Katcat1 anyone can google the article and read for themselves. It does not state what you represent.

Stop making false statements.

There is no basis to state that the Neutrogena Makeup Remover Cleansing Towelettes are toxic. In fact, the story includes a link so that people can purchase the items.

Re: Toxic Makeup

Katcat1 — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:01:44 GMT

@NYCLatinaMe My goodness, get a grip. This is from the article itself:

This just goes to show how overwhelming this process can be, and I hope to make it a little easier by sharing my everyday nontoxic makeup routine with you! Scroll through for a few of the makeup products I used to use, which contain some of those risky ingredients I mentioned. Then find my nontoxic swaps. The Neutrogena wipes are listed under the risky ingredients.

Re: Toxic Makeup

NYCLatinaMe — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 21:52:42 GMT

@Katcat1

TOXIC is not the same as RISKY. I understand why you are confused because the purpose of the article you read is to obfuscate and the author succeeded with you. Just because the cancer survivor considers some products non-toxic, that does not mean that the products she no longer uses are toxic. She explains that she won't use products she considers RISKY which she defines as "parabens, sulfates, leads, and synthetic fragrances (which are hormone disruptors and possible carcinogens)".

The Neutrogena Facial Cleansing Towelettes do not contain parabens, sulfates, or leads, so she is complaining about the fragrance, whatever it is. So some people may be sensitive to that, but it is not toxic.

Re: Toxic Makeup

suzyQ3 — Thu, 11 Mar 2021 17:11:29 GMT

I think "toxic" is a very overused word, especially in promoting supposedly non-toxic products.