topic Re: Argon Oil Application in Beauty

Argon Oil Application

cddh — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 15:04:50 GMT

I have done some googling but wonder what posters have to say. Before other serums, moisturizer or as a last step? I have read that it depends on your skin type. Has anyone tried both?

Re: Argon Oil Application

Janey2 — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 15:34:30 GMT

I've heard Josie Maran say to use it as the last step in your routine.

Re: Argon Oil Application

SilleeMee — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 15:48:03 GMT

Serums go on first. Oils and moisturizers go on after that and in any order...it's just a matter of preference. Oils tend to be occlusive so many people choose to use them lastly to seal in everything under it. If you use a chemical sunscreen then that has to go on after your serums so it can absorb, too.

Re: Argon Oil Application

Shanus — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:03:23 GMT

@SilleeMee ITA about the oils except I think we disagree about sunscreens. Any type of spf whether chemical or mineral should be applied as your last step in skincare. Most derms feel that applying moisturizers over sunscreen can change the properties of the spf and dilute the efficiency of the sunscreen.

Re: Argon Oil Application

Shanus — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:09:13 GMT

@Janey2 wrote:
I've heard Josie Maran say to use it as the last step in your routine.

@Janey2 If my skin is extra dry, at night only, I will tap on oil (not JM's) on top of my creams and add more moisture. Sometimes, I mix them together in the palm of my hand before application. Daytime, I apply oils after serums and before moisturizer.

Re: Argon Oil Application

SilleeMee — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:13:52 GMT

@Shanus

It's the way they make and test chemical sunscreens which is the basis of their efficacy. Chemical sunscreens need to absorb in order for them to perform as they were formulated to do and that's inside the skin, not on top of it. Yes, you can apply them on top of other products but what you'll end up with will not be the SPF stated on the bottle. That's the reason why they tell you to wait 15 minutes so it can absorb and give the appropriate SPF.

Re: Argon Oil Application

Shanus — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:26:33 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
@Shanus
It's the way they make and test chemical sunscreens which is the basis of their efficacy. Chemical sunscreens need to absorb in order for them to perform as they were formulated to do and that's inside the skin, not on top of it. Yes, you can apply them on top of other products but what you'll end up with will not be the SPF stated on the bottle. That's the reason why they tell you to wait 15 minutes so it can absorb and give the appropriate SPF.

@SilleeMee Can we agree to disagree on this one point?

Re: Argon Oil Application

cddh — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:34:06 GMT

Is this in response to the "oil"?

Re: Argon Oil Application

SilleeMee — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:35:31 GMT

Chemical sunscreens have substances in them which need to bind to the skin in order for those substances to convert into an SPF agent. Without the binding the chemicals themselves don't work. The chemicals need to absorb so they convert via a chemical reaction inside the skin. @Shanus

Re: Argon Oil Application

SilleeMee — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:38:19 GMT

@cddh wrote:
Is this in response to the "oil"?

@cddh

It's important to know that oils can inhibit some sunscreens.

Re: Argon Oil Application

cddh — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 16:51:22 GMT

Thanks for the clarification. I use IT foundation primarily for not liking seperate sunscreen. I don't know how to directly respond to individual posts like you do. I tried to address the post to you but the Q must have thought your name was offensive -

Re: Argon Oil Application

Shanus — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 17:03:39 GMT

@cddh FYI, you should never count on a foundation to be enough spf unless you're going to apply at least 1 teaspoon. I doubt many women use that much foundation....and what about necks and ears? Foundation there?

Re: Argon Oil Application

shy bobcat — Sun, 24 Jan 2021 17:47:17 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
Serums go on first. Oils and moisturizers go on after that and in any order...it's just a matter of preference. Oils tend to be occlusive so many people choose to use them lastly to seal in everything under it. If you use a chemical sunscreen then that has to go on after your serums so it can absorb, too.

Is a serum the same as a primer? I wonder if primer is a barrier to any spf that is applied over it.

Can you help and explain?

Re: Argon Oil Application

SilleeMee — Sun, 24 Jan 2021 18:40:48 GMT

@shy bobcat wrote:

@SilleeMee wrote:
Serums go on first. Oils and moisturizers go on after that and in any order...it's just a matter of preference. Oils tend to be occlusive so many people choose to use them lastly to seal in everything under it. If you use a chemical sunscreen then that has to go on after your serums so it can absorb, too.

Is a serum the same as a primer? I wonder if primer is a barrier to any spf that is applied over it.
Can you help and explain?

@shy bobcat

Serums are not primers. Serums go on first then your chemical sunscreen and lastly your primer. A primer is a barrier so it won't allow a chemical sunscreen to absorb into the skin which is not the correct thing to do. Chemical sunscreens need to absorb into the skin for proper protection. Do not use a primer under a chemical sunscreen.

Mineral sunscreens go on after your primer. Mineral sunscreens don't need to absorb into the skin. Some mineral sunscreens make good primers so you might want to skip the primer.