topic Re: SORRY CHAZ, BUT..... in Beauty

SORRY CHAZ, BUT.....

Shanus — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 11:46:33 GMT

On Shawn's show last night, he took his hair out of a hair tie and it always looks like it needs a good scrubbing IMO. Not a great advertisement for WEN.

Many years ago, when I used it, I still shampooed every other day. There are way too many conditioning ingredients in there that leave a residue and some women (& men) experience hair that appears weighed down and needs washing more often than suggested.

That becomes an expensive proposition with all the pumps recommended for a first cleanse, second cleanse and pumps for leave in.

I've never used another shampoo that requires a second cleanse or that much product to get my hair clean. I know people love this, but after giving it more than ample time to see great results, I was disappointed and spending a huge amount of money on the cleansing conditioner and additional styling products, oils, treatments that Chaz says are essentials to achieve the final results.

The kicker is that after a few years and many hundreds of dollars (with a pixie haircut...can't imagine how much $$$ if my hair was the length now) the dream WEN hair was never achieved.

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Harpa — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 11:54:27 GMT

@Shanus That's because the dream stylists didn't come with the bottles!

I still use his glossing serum! But I won't go into my saga about the CCs.

But I was intrigued a little when he mentioned about the color ... was it a particular CC that he had made recently? .... he said he hadn't colored his hair in (whatever it was...)

Anyway, I didn't stick around to watch the presentation.

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Shanus — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:11:19 GMT

@Harpa wrote:
@Shanus That's because the dream stylists didn't come with the bottles!

I still use his glossing serum! But I won't go into my saga about the CCs.

But I was intrigued a little when he mentioned about the color ... was it a particular CC that he had made recently? .... he said he hadn't colored his hair in (whatever it was...)

Anyway, I didn't stick around to watch the presentation.

@Harpa Didn't stick around for presentation either, but I'm fairly sure that if you have grey hair or roots of another color other than your natural color, retouching depends on how fast your hair grows. If he's referring to less fading off the rest of your hair, it doesn't matter if you have 2" of roots showing. Nothing stops regrowth.

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Harpa — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:17:40 GMT

@Shanus Oh yeah! That's what he means! I should have known better!

I can say the exact same thing, and it's not because of his glossing serum!

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Pecky — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:24:40 GMT

@Shanus I have to agree with you. I have tried Wen countless times ordering everytime he offered something new. My hair always felt dirty and greasy the day after. It felt like I had a coating on my hair. I would either give them away or just throw them out. I haven't watched a Wen show in a long time and I tried to watch yesterday. I couldn't watch Chaz for more than 10 minutes he talked non stop and so fast I was getting a headache.

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SXMGirl — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:27:09 GMT

@Shanus I think Chaz always looks like his hair needs a good wash.

I have used Wen for years and it works well with my hair. Until Wen, I had problems with my scalp breaking out. I never do a second cleanse and I wash my hair either every other day or every three days. As far as the models who no longer color their hair, they obviously do not need to do so. I still need mine done every month, no matter what Chaz says.

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Catch71 — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:34:55 GMT

After watching the Wen demonstrations many times I finally decided to try the cleansing conditioner 2 years ago. I used it as directed for about 3 months then i broke out in a rash at my hairline so I stopped using it. It did not clear up and I had dry patches on my scalp. Went to my doctor and he said it was a scalp type eczyma. It has taken until now to finally clear up. I cannot prove it was the product that started it, but it sure seems like it. I guess I was one of those that were alergic so one of the ingredients or the formula in general.

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shaggygirl — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:40:24 GMT

Yes, his hair always looks like it needs a good shampooing, not a cleansing, a shampooing. I've said this before and will say it again. I've tried it several times and don't get the "people stare at my hair" kind of results the wen ladies here do BUT I really did have LESS hair in my hair catcher when I used it. If it just didn't make my hair dull and limp I'd be willing to pay the obscene price for it. And I rinsed till the cows came home so it wasn't that.

Just so it doesn't sound I'm only picking on his prices, I've gone the Nick Chavez route too and although I got good results his prices are obscene as well (imo) so I gave that up just on principle. I can get the same results from brands that cost less.

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LillyBee2 — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:42:06 GMT

@Shanus I agree with you also, about Wen and weighing my hair down. I just didn't think it cleaned well and my hair had absolutely no bounce. I've tried a few times, had to pass, although it looked like an awesome buy if you use the product. One thing I did like, it smells wonderful!

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Kardi — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:45:35 GMT

I totally agree. Spent hundreds on his products and still have a couple unopened in my closet. I thought it would help with breakage I was experiencing several years ago so began using the cc daily. Had to use daily since I couldn't stand the dirty feeling. I finally realized that his cc didn't solve my issue with breakage, but stopped using a curling iron on my baby fine hair and VOILA! Now I use a couple different shampoos and wash my hair every other day and it's doing great. Big savings for me.

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millieshops — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:06:51 GMT

my hair seemed to do well with quite a few WEN offerings at first, but the longer I used it the more I liked fewer of the offerings and buying just the combinations I liked meant I couldn’t use most of the tsv’s and I don’t have space for a gallon.

and then in my doctor’s office one day I read the medical take on non-sulfates - they just don’t all work all the time for some of us. I decided to go back to shampoos and conditioners between using up my WEN stash.

There’s no WEN left in my house, but the only product I truly miss is the mousse - just haven’t found any I like as well. I’ll also say I’m not at all sure I’ve saved significant money switching - I never lost much hair with WEN but I did with one of the inexpensive brands I tried.

goood thing we still have free choice and lots of them!

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Shanus — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:12:10 GMT

@SXMGirl wrote:
@Shanus I think Chaz always looks like his hair needs a good wash.

I have used Wen for years and it works well with my hair. Until Wen, I had problems with my scalp breaking out. I never do a second cleanse and I wash my hair either every other day or every three days. As far as the models who no longer color their hair, they obviously do not need to do so. I still need mine done every month, no matter what Chaz says.

@SXMGirl Some of the models in the 40-50 yr. old range or those with blonde or obviously not their natural hair color, must have to have their roots colored/retouched. I'm shocked he can get away with saying that.

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Shanus — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:22:59 GMT

@shaggygirl wrote:
Yes, his hair always looks like it needs a good shampooing, not a cleansing, a shampooing. I've said this before and will say it again. I've tried it several times and don't get the "people stare at my hair" kind of results the wen ladies here do BUT I really did have LESS hair in my hair catcher when I used it. If it just didn't make my hair dull and limp I'd be willing to pay the obscene price for it. And I rinsed till the cows came home so it wasn't that.

Just so it doesn't sound I'm only picking on his prices, I've gone the Nick Chavez route too and although I got good results his prices are obscene as well (imo) so I gave that up just on principle. I can get the same results from brands that cost less.

@shaggygirl I'm thinking the women he chooses have great heads of hair to begin with and could wash their hair with TIDE and have fair results. The most expensive S&C I use now are the Beekman ones and I alternate that with drugstore Shea Moisture. I'm convinced (like Nick has preached for 30 yrs. on Q), a "clean scalp is a healthy scalp". If I begin to get those little bumps on my scalp (usually clogged follicles), time to back off all the conditioning and use a sulfate shampoo like good old Neutrogena to get rid of all the residue from styling products, hairspray, heat protectant, etc.

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millieshops — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:24:51 GMT

@Shanus even when I was using WEN successfully, that success never included not having to go for color monthly. Maybe when I was in my 20’s I could have done without, but my own color needed help by the time I turned 30. I never bought that claim

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Shanus — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:27:11 GMT

@millieshops wrote:
@Shanus even when I was using WEN successfully, that success never included not having to go for color monthly. Maybe when I was in my 20’s I could have done without, but my own color needed help by the time I turned 30. I never bought that claim

@millieshops Someone, like QVC, needs to "call him" on that claim. Definitely false...unless your hair has stopped growing.

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shaggygirl — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:45:20 GMT

@Shanus wrote:
@shaggygirl wrote:
Yes, his hair always looks like it needs a good shampooing, not a cleansing, a shampooing. I've said this before and will say it again. I've tried it several times and don't get the "people stare at my hair" kind of results the wen ladies here do BUT I really did have LESS hair in my hair catcher when I used it. If it just didn't make my hair dull and limp I'd be willing to pay the obscene price for it. And I rinsed till the cows came home so it wasn't that.

Just so it doesn't sound I'm only picking on his prices, I've gone the Nick Chavez route too and although I got good results his prices are obscene as well (imo) so I gave that up just on principle. I can get the same results from brands that cost less.

@shaggygirl I'm thinking the women he chooses have great heads of hair to begin with and could wash their hair with TIDE and have fair results. The most expensive S&C I use now are the Beekman ones and I alternate that with drugstore Shea Moisture. I'm convinced (like Nick has preached for 30 yrs. on Q), a "clean scalp is a healthy scalp". If I begin to get those little bumps on my scalp (usually clogged follicles), time to back off all the conditioning and use a sulfate shampoo like good old Neutrogena to get rid of all the residue from styling products, hairspray, heat protectant, etc.

@Shanus

All I know is..there are a gazillion women on the face of this earth who don't use WEN but have beautiful hair.

As for those who don't have such beautiful hair....well then maybe they are the ones who need WEN, you never know, could be the game changer for them that gives them a great head of hair.

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Shanus — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:46:15 GMT

@shaggygirl Freedom of choice. Just did not work for me.

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LindaSal — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:47:04 GMT

I believe he means that your color won't "wash out" as some over the counter shampoos tend to do. Obviously you have regrowth and roots will always need touch ups. I go every 8 weeks to do just that. I have been fortunate that Wen has worked very well for me. I understand it is not for everyone and it depends a lot on your particular physiology. I'm happy with it but understand those who are not.

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wagirl — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 14:16:10 GMT

Not impressed with that stuff--I HATE taking that much time with my hair-want to wash and go--it was awful on my hair as it weighed it down amd made it look greasy--he kind of creeps me out anyway so I NEVER watch.-

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CorrTor — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 14:35:52 GMT

I never tried it. I have long hair and would have to use a lot of it, so it would get expensive. I notice though that he hasn't been on as much as he used to be. He used to be on QVC all the time for HOURS! If the customers here are any indication, it seems like WEN is not as popular.