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lines around lips

ruthbe — Sat, 10 Aug 2019 19:03:57 GMT

Does anyone like any product to help for the vertical lines around the mouth/lips??

(Not interested in surgery) I'm afraid that is the only true thing that will help. Thank you.

Re: lines around lips

JeanLouiseFinch — Sat, 10 Aug 2019 19:32:59 GMT

You'll probably see a lot of responses saying nothing can be done for these except for an expensive procedure. I'm a big fan of peptides. My recommendation would be to exfoliate regularly and use Skinn Pep 40 Serum around the outside of the lip, not directly on the lip. You can also add the Skinn Lip 6x Serum on the lip to soften and plump it up a little bit (skinn website or HSN).

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Shelbelle — Sat, 10 Aug 2019 19:44:17 GMT

What about the Skinn Lip Stem Rejen made especially for the lines around lips??

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JeanLouiseFinch — Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:56:28 GMT

I used the Lip Stem Rejen in the past. Good product, I just moved on. I don’t think it’s made it to the hsn offerings yet.

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Porcelain — Sat, 10 Aug 2019 23:28:28 GMT

I use one drop of 100% Volufiline by Sidmool on the area all around my mouth as a last step in my skincare routine. I really think I'm seeing results. The whole area is plumped up a bit. It's like a very subtle all-over filler.

I have two lines on my upper lip that appear sometimes. They are definitely softer and less noticable now when I talk.

This video by the Polish youtuber Olga Toja is where I got the idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95LBJzo8hV8

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SilleeMee — Sat, 10 Aug 2019 23:38:37 GMT

I use a microneedle (stamp type) on my lines around my lips. That seems to be the only thing that helps mine. I even had a derm do laser treatments on them but they came back sooner than expected.

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Porcelain — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 00:24:30 GMT

@SilleeMee has a good point about dermarolling the lip area. I'm still too queasy about it to do it yet. But on Youtube (again) two very credible over-50 beauty gurus seem to swear by it.

Beauty By Marie Anne got really nice results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nbdI4bcpWs

And MaryEllen After 60 has a great, unlined upper lip at her age, using a dermaroller. She's a nurse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfXpelDFDZ4

(For the record, if anyone wondered. There is a somewhat famous Porcelain on Youtube and I am NOT her.)

Re: lines around lips

GenXmuse — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 00:34:23 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
I use a microneedle (stamp type) on my lines around my lips. That seems to be the only thing that helps mine. I even had a derm do laser treatments on them but they came back sooner than expected.

I hadn’t thought about using microneedles on my lip line so I might try this since I’m saving up for fillers at the moment. What tool are you using?

thank you 😊

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Katcat1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:05:15 GMT

@SilleeMee I am curious, can you give more information about this microneedle and where you buy it, what you do with it, etc. Thanks.

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Katcat1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:16:06 GMT

@Porcelain I watched both videos. The first one was over before it began and the 2nd one with the RN is a waste of money. You can exfoliate your lips and do not need to stick needles in your lips. I want more information about above the lip lines.

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Kymheart1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:14:16 GMT

Perhaps some Retin-A around the outside of lips along with some vitamin c serum. I have heard (but have not tried it yet) that No 7 wrinkle filler is a temporary fix. I am in the market for it to see if it helps my mild lip lines. Good luck and please report back on what you tried and your results🍀🍀🍀

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SilleeMee — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:36:36 GMT

I use this tool. Buy it from Skinmedix dot com ($28 w/ free sh) but you can find this type in other places for less. I use the 0.5mm size and just a fair warning...it's very painful to use so I have to use a numbing cream. I use the Uber Numb Cream (5% lidocaine). Apply a layer of that on the area to be treated and cover with saran wrap for about 15 minutes then rinse thoroughly with water, dry then disinfect the area with 70% alcohol...do not fan dry, let it air dry (the numbing effects will last about 20 to 30 minutes so don't delay). Then you can start stamping. I go over the area three times. There will be pinpoint bleeding, sometimes quite a bit but wipe that off with water only after you're done, not during the stamping. I apply an organic camellia oil afterwards and no actives, sunscreen or makeup for 24 hours. Camellia oil is a natural antiseptic / antioxidant / anti-inflammatory. I go through this entire process once monthly. I stamp my lip lines and marionette lines, too.

@GenXmuse

@Katcat1

Re: lines around lips

Shanus — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:34:24 GMT

@ruthbe wrote:
Does anyone like any product to help for the vertical lines around the mouth/lips??
(Not interested in surgery) I'm afraid that is the only true thing that will help. Thank you.

@ruthbe I’ve always applied my Retin A, acid peel pads, Vit. C and whatever other skincare I’m using carefully around the mouth area. The constant exfoliation and moisturizing seems to have kept noticeable lines away. I do, however use a lip primer (or you can use your shadow primer) before applying lipsticks or gloss to prevent any “bleeding”.

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Katcat1 — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:10:05 GMT

@SilleeMee Thank you. How long does it last after treatment?

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SilleeMee — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:44:09 GMT

@Katcat1 wrote:
@SilleeMee Thank you. How long does it last after treatment?

@Katcat1

The collagen induced by needling can last for several years but as the older collagen goes away, it needs to be replaced on a regular schedule...in this case, once monthly for that size (0.5mm) needle. Results can be seen within a week and even right after the temporary redness and (sometimes) swelling goes away. But the best results are seen in about 3 weeks. I usually do 6 once-monthly treatments then take a break for 3 or 4 months...but that's up to you and how you feel your skin is taking it. You may want to stop sooner or continue on with more treatments. You be the judge of that.

Needle devices should be replaced about every 6 uses or when they start to feel like they are not going into the skin easily...you might feel some resistance when pressing the device into the skin. That's a dead give-away that you need to replace it.

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GenXmuse — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:35:27 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
I use this tool. Buy it from Skinmedix dot com ($28 w/ free sh) but you can find this type in other places for less. I use the 0.5mm size and just a fair warning...it's very painful to use so I have to use a numbing cream. I use the Uber Numb Cream (5% lidocaine). Apply a layer of that on the area to be treated and cover with saran wrap for about 15 minutes then rinse thoroughly with water, dry then disinfect the area with 70% alcohol...do not fan dry, let it air dry (the numbing effects will last about 20 to 30 minutes so don't delay). Then you can start stamping. I go over the area three times. There will be pinpoint bleeding, sometimes quite a bit but wipe that off with water only after you're done, not during the stamping. I apply an organic camellia oil afterwards and no actives, sunscreen or makeup for 24 hours. Camellia oil is a natural antiseptic / antioxidant / anti-inflammatory. I go through this entire process once monthly. I stamp my lip lines and marionette lines, too.

@GenXmuse
@Katcat1

I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. I know you’ve addressed this in the past so thank you for being patient with my questions! This is the one I had in mind to use.

I have a question about doing the lines around the lips. Is it possible to use this without puncturing the lip itself? Can you get close enough to the lines without it crossing over to the lips? I’m assuming you don’t stamp your lips right? I imagine the area around the mouth are going to be the most painful. Numbing cream definitely sounds in order here.

Did I recall correctly that you also get this professionally done by chance?

Thanks again!

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SilleeMee — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 21:36:54 GMT

@GenXmuse wrote:
@SilleeMee wrote:
I use this tool. Buy it from Skinmedix dot com ($28 w/ free sh) but you can find this type in other places for less. I use the 0.5mm size and just a fair warning...it's very painful to use so I have to use a numbing cream. I use the Uber Numb Cream (5% lidocaine). Apply a layer of that on the area to be treated and cover with saran wrap for about 15 minutes then rinse thoroughly with water, dry then disinfect the area with 70% alcohol...do not fan dry, let it air dry (the numbing effects will last about 20 to 30 minutes so don't delay). Then you can start stamping. I go over the area three times. There will be pinpoint bleeding, sometimes quite a bit but wipe that off with water only after you're done, not during the stamping. I apply an organic camellia oil afterwards and no actives, sunscreen or makeup for 24 hours. Camellia oil is a natural antiseptic / antioxidant / anti-inflammatory. I go through this entire process once monthly. I stamp my lip lines and marionette lines, too.

@GenXmuse
@Katcat1
I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. I know you’ve addressed this in the past so thank you for being patient with my questions! This is the one I had in mind to use.

I have a question about doing the lines around the lips. Is it possible to use this without puncturing the lip itself? Can you get close enough to the lines without it crossing over to the lips? I’m assuming you don’t stamp your lips right? I imagine the area around the mouth are going to be the most painful. Numbing cream definitely sounds in order here.

Did I recall correctly that you also get this professionally done by chance?

Thanks again!

You'e welcome @GenXmuse

With this type of device it is small enough to get around the lips without any problem. Stamping close to the lips is possible because of it's small size and avoiding stamping the lips is not difficult. Do not stamp your lips, just stamp around them.

My first microneedle treatments were done by a licensed aesthetician. I asked a lot of questions when I was there and eventually I bought a book and read all about it before doing it on my own. Been doing it on myself for about 5 or so years. I treat from hairline down to include my neck using different kinds and sizes of needles....some are rollers and some are stamps (large and small stamp devices). But I only have to numb my lip area...that's just too painfull if I don't.

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SilleeMee — Sun, 11 Aug 2019 21:07:39 GMT

Numbing products contain lidocaine which causes vasoconstriction. This property of lidocaine really isn't a good thing to have in or on the skin when needling because whenever you limit blood flow you also interfere with collagen production. So the best thing is not to use it at all if possible. But sometimes the pain is simply too much and using the numbing cream is a must for me. Use numbing creams at your discretion but keep that in mind when you do.

@GenXmuse

@Katcat1

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GenXmuse — Mon, 12 Aug 2019 00:50:04 GMT

@SilleeMee @Thanks so much! Don’t know what I’d do without you

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SilleeMee — Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:08:35 GMT

Thank you @GenXmuse you're so sweet.