topic using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no? in Beauty

using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

MariotaMurielle — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 00:58:57 GMT

I seem to recall reading something years ago that using copper serums and vitamin C products together is contraindicated.

I've been using Isomers Copper-P serum for years and recently bought Isomers Vitamin C neck cream.

does anyone here with skincare expertise have an opinion on this?

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

SilleeMee — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 01:07:47 GMT

My science background tells me that copper is a metal and vit C is an (oxidizing) acid. In my chemistry classes I was taught that metals and acid react with one another to cause oxidation, rendering each of those two components to become nonreactive. In other words, they cancel each other out.

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

SilleeMee — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 01:28:58 GMT

Sometimes you can use copper products with certain kinds of vit C products, for example the MAP form of vit C. That kind of vit C is less acidic than most other forms and because of that it is compatible to use with copper products. Just be sure to check your vit C product and see what type of vit C is in there.

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

MariotaMurielle — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 01:39:44 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
Sometimes you can use copper products with certain kinds of vit C products, for example the MAP form of vit C. That kind of vit C is less acidic than most other forms and because of that it is compatible to use with copper products. Just be sure to check your vit C product and see what type of vit C is in there.

@SilleeMee, does MAP mean Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate?

it's in the ingredient list.

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

SilleeMee — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 01:46:32 GMT

@MariotaMurielle wrote:
@SilleeMee wrote:
Sometimes you can use copper products with certain kinds of vit C products, for example the MAP form of vit C. That kind of vit C is less acidic than most other forms and because of that it is compatible to use with copper products. Just be sure to check your vit C product and see what type of vit C is in there.
@SilleeMee, does MAP mean Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate?
it's in the ingredient list.

@MariotaMurielle ,

Yes.

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

MariotaMurielle — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 01:59:58 GMT

thanks for your advice @SilleeMee

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

Linmo — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 02:10:59 GMT

@MariotaMurielle Isomers has said in the past that you can use their Copper P and Vitamin C serums together without a problem. I use them together daily. I would assume it's the same with the neck cream. You might want to call their 800 # to check with them. Their customer service is very helpful.

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

MariotaMurielle — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 06:54:59 GMT

@Linmo wrote:
@MariotaMurielle Isomers has said in the past that you can use their Copper P and Vitamin C serums together without a problem. I use them together daily. I would assume it's the same with the neck cream. You might want to call their 800 # to check with them. Their customer service is very helpful.

@Linmo, it's good to know that you've used Isomers copper and vitamin c products together without issue. I've used the Copper-P for a very long time and wouldn't want to be without it.

thanks for your input.

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

EllieMuncaster — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 11:03:18 GMT

I just purchased a Prai product that has C and copper together. I couldn't resist.

PRAI Potent-C Power Drops & Power Creme

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

Shanus — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 12:12:07 GMT

@MariotaMurielle wrote:
I seem to recall reading something years ago that using copper serums and vitamin C products together is contraindicated.
I've been using Isomers Copper-P serum for years and recently bought Isomers Vitamin C neck cream.
does anyone here with skincare expertise have an opinion on this?

@MariotaMurielle No scientific background here, but in my personal experience, I see better results applying one skincare item at a time, letting it absorb thoroughly before applying the next. FYI, the only serum I use is Vit. E.

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

Montana — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 12:23:19 GMT

This is Isomer’s response to me about using Copper-P and their Vitamin C together:

March 19, 2019

Hello [Montana]

There is no problem in using the Vitamin C & Ferulic 15% Skin Brightening Concentrate with the Copper P Concentrate Serum.

The formulas are stable, so that you can mix/cocktail them.

Regards,
Francesca
Customer service

Re: using Copper-P serum and vitamin C cream together. a big no?

SilleeMee — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 13:07:49 GMT

@EllieMuncaster wrote:
I just purchased a Prai product that has C and copper together. I couldn't resist.
PRAI Potent-C Power Drops & Power Creme

Those products contain another very stable and copper-compatible form of vc called tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate (THD ascorbate). THDA is also an oil and is oil-soluble, which means it has been demonstrated to penetrate the skin deeper than other forms of vc. THDA is super stable and can remain that way for up to 18 months even when exposed to air and light. Concentrations as low as 1% THDA have been shown to be effective. The only problem with THDA is that it is expensive.