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Some dont want to hear it

FlowerBear — Sat, 16 Feb 2019 22:47:28 GMT

I know that many do not want to hear this stuff but it is possible it is true and is not safe!

http://www.chemfreecom.com/how-toxic-are-our-commonly-used-cosmetic-foundations/

Re: Some dont want to hear it

WindingRoad — Sat, 16 Feb 2019 22:58:13 GMT

Are you referring to phenoxyethanol or something else?

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butterfly123 — Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:55:59 GMT

@FlowerBear

Thank you for the link.

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suzyQ3 — Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:11:35 GMT

You are right, although it really isn't that I don't want to hear it; it's that I don't trust a site with the name Chemical Free.:-)

And I don't trust a site that points to two purported sources: EWG, an interesting site but one that has its own bias; and another site that my computer won't let me enter (never a good sign).

For those so very concerned about so-called toxicity, I'm sure this is a welcome website. Personally, I don't believe that any skincare or makeup item I use is toxic and will adversely affect my life.

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ALRATIBA — Sat, 16 Feb 2019 23:19:48 GMT

Who are these people? Are they selling alternative cosmetics?

With all the various pills and vitamins and other supplements people take directly into their body w/o giving a thought to it ... I can't understand why they'd be worried about cosmetics.

Re: Some dont want to hear it

Porcelain — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 00:08:51 GMT

You're right. I don't want to hear it. Because, respectfully, it's fake pseudoscience BS. It contributes nothing helpful to the conversation.

Anyone can earnestly tell me the sky is actually orange and I'm a chump for believing otherwise, but that opinion is still completely wrong. I will never want to hear from said "orange sky" conspiracy theorists. (Even if they may be sort of correct twice a day at sunrise and sunset.)

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Pook — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 00:23:19 GMT

Some will fall for this and get all worked up over a minute amount of some substance in makeup/skincare but will use enormous amounts of chemical cleaners in their house or religiously slather sunblock with way more harmful chemicals over their skin daily!

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SilleeMee — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 01:05:03 GMT

If you feel that you have been harmed by a cosmetic product then you have a right to file a formal complaint with the FDA's cosmetic division. The FDA is the only authority that can remove a product from being sold in order to protect the general public.

A person can shout all they want from the highest mountain about how "toxic" a cosmetic might be. But if that can't be scientifically proven then there's no reason to cause alarm.

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Montana — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 01:56:23 GMT

I did not read about it, but found out from personal experience that I am probably allergic to phenoxyethanol. I had a bad reaction to a new product I was trying out which contained that ingredient. None of the other products I use successfully have phenoxyethanol in them.

If was really hard for me to get rid of those allergic bumps. I’m not upset about it, but phenoxyethanol is something I will avoid from now on.

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Montana — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 02:40:52 GMT

I remembered the Peter Thomas Roth 14K Gold Mask broke me out. At the time I was puzzled because I did not see any problem ingredients.

On a hunch, I just rechecked the ingredient list and it too contains phenoxyethanol. I believe that is why I couldn’t use it.

Still not worked up; will just be vigilant.

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SilleeMee — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 03:05:43 GMT

@ Montana wrote:
I remembered the Peter Thomas Roth 14K Gold Mask broke me out. At the time I was puzzled because I did not see any problem ingredients.

On a hunch, I just rechecked the ingredient list and it too contains phenoxyethanol. I believe that is why I couldn’t use it.

Still not worked up; will just be vigilant.

Phenoxyethanol is a preservative that is being used more and more instead of the so-called 'bad parabens' and can allow a manufacturer to state that their product is 'paraben-free'. But what many people do not know is that this alternative preservative causes more allergic reactions than parabens ever have...and that can lead to more problems involving the skin. Unfortunately we'll be seeing more allergies come around as more cosmetic and skin care manufactures no longer use parabens and choose to replace them with allergy-causing substances like phenoxyethanol as well as some others.

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Nonametoday — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 03:13:10 GMT

One of my children had terrible asthma (we were in the military at the time and had just moved into the south where the humidity is high). I asked the doctor if I should take the children (because we were living near a lot of pine trees) and move to another state where there were fewer pine trees (on his testing, he was allergic to pine trees). He told me if I moved to Arizona, he might be allergic to cactus, that these children's allergies change and the best thing to do was to get shots for those offenders and stay where I was. I did. He outgrew the allergies. Life is good and at 35, he does not even recall having asthma as a toddler.

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San Antonio Gal — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:36:00 GMT

I never knew that @SilleeMee . Good to have someone with your background/knowledge here on the forum to keep us informed. Thank you.

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FlowerBear — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:24:38 GMT

@WindingRoad just alot of ingredients, not just that one!

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FlowerBear — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:25:30 GMT

Most TOXIC that we use anyway!

https://www.thetalko.com/15-most-toxic-beauty-products-that-we-use-anyway/

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FlowerBear — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:25:53 GMT

@butterfly123 You are so welcome! I just sent another one.

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FlowerBear — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:30:38 GMT

Skin Nation. Michelle Stafford from GH.

Why she created a plant based organic natural line. It makes alot of sense. I know alot of ppl that had cancer refuse to use toxic products. But if you are disinterested that is up to you! Thank you.

Inspired to research the chemicals that we put into our body daily after her sister was diagnosed with stage 3-breast cancer, Michelle Stafford found that most of the products that we put in and on our body contain harmful toxins that can hurt our bodies, and set us up for health risks in the future. Upon discovering this, Michelle set out to create products that were organic and natural. She spent months creating and testing products on herself that were up to her high standards of value and refused to sell anything less than excellent. She founded Skin Nation on the belief that everyone of all shapes, sizes, colors, genders and ethnicities from all different backgrounds should be able benefit from using clean, inexpensive products

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Montana — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 16:25:14 GMT

Plant based skin care does not generally agree with me. I checked a few Skin Nation products and Aloe is the first ingredient. I am allergic to Aloe.

Nothing works for everyone.

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Porcelain — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 16:43:55 GMT

There is a difference between a toxic substance and a substance some people develop an allergy to. My grandmother developed an allergy to strawberries when she got older. Does that make strawberries unsafe?

This subject requires a lot more thought and research than the alarmists give it.

Re: Some dont want to hear it

FlowerBear — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 16:53:34 GMT

It is hard to know what to do about products. You try and do the right thing but then you can be allergic to certain ingredients or they just dont work. What is a person to do??