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Lye in soaps

goldensrbest — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 20:39:38 GMT

@SilleeMee, Is it true that most soaps have to have a forum of lye in them , there are others forums of lye called other things?

Re: Lye in soaps

SilleeMee — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:01:16 GMT

@goldensrbest wrote:
@SilleeMee, Is it true that most soaps have to have a forum of lye in them , there are others forums of lye called other things?

As far as I know, @goldensrbest, lye is needed in the chemical recipe of soap making. Either sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide are the two forms of lye used in soap making...one or the other, not both at the same time. But the end product soap has no lye in it because the chemical reaction between the lye, oils and fats creates 'soap' and glycerin...the process is called saponification...the term from which the word soap comes from.

Re: Lye in soaps

goldensrbest — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:05:33 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
@goldensrbest wrote:
@SilleeMee, Is it true that most soaps have to have a forum of lye in them , there are others forums of lye called other things?

As far as I know, @goldensrbest, lye is needed in the chemical recipe of soap making. Either sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide are the two forms of lye used in soap making...one or the other, not both at the same time. But the end product soap has no lye in it because the chemical reaction between the lye, oils and fats creates 'soap' and glycerin...the process is called saponification...the term from which the word soap comes from.

I bought some goats milk soap ,when i got it it has lye in it,which scared me ,then i read that most all soaps need it ,saponifaction is needed ,learned something new today ,thanks.

Re: Lye in soaps

SilleeMee — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:15:31 GMT

If the soap was properly made, then there should be no lye in the soap. Lye is only used in making the soap. The lye gets 'used up' in the process.

Re: Lye in soaps

goldensrbest — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:24:42 GMT

@SilleeMee wrote:
If the soap was properly made, then there should be no lye in the soap. Lye is only used in making the soap. The lye gets 'used up' in the process.

Yes they said that ,it is legends goats milk soap, but it is part of ingredients on box.

Re: Lye in soaps

x Hedge — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:40:06 GMT

Don't overlook the fact the word "soap" is frequently misapplied to non-soaps.

I use a "hand-soap" that really isn't a soap at all, but everyone knows exactly what I mean.

Many liquid skin cleansers and 'beauty bars' are commonly referred to as soap, but aren't.

As long as they use the correct word when selling the product, I'm ok.

Re: Lye in soaps

chrystaltree — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:58:44 GMT

https://www.chagrinvalleysoapandsalve.com/blog/posts/is-there-lye-in-natural-soap-wont-it-harm-my-skin/

Re: Lye in soaps

goldensrbest — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 22:01:06 GMT

@chrystaltree wrote:
https://www.chagrinvalleysoapandsalve.com/blog/posts/is-there-lye-in-natural-soap-wont-it-harm-my-skin/

I read that earlier today.

Re: Lye in soaps

Porcelain — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 22:13:16 GMT

Most bar soaps that are sold today, particularly ones in major stores, aren't made with lye. They are technically called "syndets" and techincally shouldn't be called soap, but they look the same. Much better for your skin because they use a different process for mixing in the cleansing ingredients and can balance your pH better.

Re: Lye in soaps

brandiwine — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 23:27:26 GMT

This has made me laugh. My best friend as to make soap for her baby 46years ago because he had such sensitive skin and of course, she had to use lye. Once the soap cures it's safe and natural.

Re: Lye in soaps

goldensrbest — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 23:36:06 GMT

@brandiwine wrote:
This has made me laugh. My best friend as to make soap for her baby 46years ago because he had such sensitive skin and of course, she had to use lye. Once the soap cures it's safe and natural.

LAUGH AWAY.

Re: Lye in soaps

software — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:02:10 GMT

Lye is cheap and used in many applications.

You would be surprised to know it's used in processed food.

As Oktoberfest starts in Munich every September, my mom starts making pretzels in Michigan. She says the soft pretzels in the U.S. aren't like what she was used to in Germany, and if she's going to be hosting a backyard Oktoberfest, her food should be authentic.

As a kid I watched the flour, yeast and salt whirl together in a food processor until suddenly congealing into a sticky ball. I liked to put my hand on the risen dough and pat it like a warm, soft belly. I helped dip the pretzels into something bubbling in the pot on the stove, careful not to touch the rolls after they were out of the bath.

That's because that bath was actually a caustic alkaline solution. Traditional Bavarian pretzels are dipped in a lye solution before they are baked. Lye, also known as sodium hydroxide, is essentially the same stuff that's used to make soap and clean drains. It can even dissolve glass.

The above was taken from NPR in 2014. It's also done commercially.

Re: Lye in soaps

depglass — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:51:42 GMT

I once bought a whole box of homemade lye soap at an auction for a couple dollars, just out of curiosity. I have sensitive skin and accidentally used it in private areas without thinking. No bad reaction whatsoever, it was like using my usual hypoallergenic bar soap.

Re: Lye in soaps

suzyQ3 — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 18:02:07 GMT

@depglass wrote:
I once bought a whole box of homemade lye soap at an auction for a couple dollars, just out of curiosity. I have sensitive skin and accidentally used it in private areas without thinking. No bad reaction whatsoever, it was like using my usual hypoallergenic bar soap.

@depglass, I doubt that "hypoallergenic" means that no lye is used in the making of the soap that you usually use.

In fact, I'm not sure that "hypoallergenic" means much at all.

Re: Lye in soaps

x Hedge — Tue, 25 Dec 2018 21:46:08 GMT

@software, don't forget the traditional Nordic lutefisk, also made with lye.

The name translates to 'lye fish '. 😋