topic Re: Beekman Incorrect Ingredients in Beauty

Beekman Incorrect Ingredients

Nightowlz — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:08:53 GMT

I just bought some more Beekman Honey & Oats bar soap. I checked the ingredients against the ingredients from the the wrapper from Evine. It was the same there but HSN has different ingredients listed on their site from what's on the wrapper on the soap I just bought. It shows it has Honey but it does not never has had honey in it. They keep saying it has honey in it when they talk about it but it has never been listed as an ingredient on my soap bars??? It does not have the name of the place in Fl that Distributed the soap on the new label. Just shows made at their farm in the USA.

HSN lists these ingredients

Ingredients: Sodium Palmate, Sodium Cocoate and/or Palm Kernelate, Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Fragrance (Parfum), Avena sativa (Oat Kernel) Flour, Caprae Lac (Goat Milk), Aleurites Moluccana Seed Extract (Kukui Nut Oil), Honey, Theobroma cacao (Cocoa) Seed Butter, Sodium Chloride, Pentasodium Pentetate.

you can see the difference in bold plus no honey before the Thebroma Cacao Seed Butter

Ingredients: Sodium Palmate, Sodium Cocoate and/or Palm Kernelate, Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Avena sativa (Oat Kernel) Flour, Fragrance (Parfum),Sodium Chloride, Caprae Lac (Goat Milk), Aleurites Moluccana Seed Extract (Kukui Nut Oil),Theobroma Cacao Seed Butter (Cocoa Butter), Pentasodium Pentetate.

Re: Beekman Incorrect Ingredients

Alison Wonderland — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:57:07 GMT

You might want to contact HSN about that.

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BirkiLady — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 23:25:19 GMT

@Nightowlz Well, that's disappointing . . . but really good to know now. I had planned to watch their show tomorrow and was interested in the Honey & Oats soap. Not if it doesn't have honey . . . and especially if Beekman is false advertising their products. A previous thread on Beekman products had me curious enough to try.

I'll continue to purchased Nebraska-made natural soaps, creams and lotions at a fraction of the cost at local Farmer's Markets!

Thanks for this timely post. You just saved me an untold amount of money.

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Porcelain — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:11:10 GMT

Nice detective work, @Nightowlz. I wonder if eventually the list on the bar packaging will be updated. Or if the HSN site info is just plain wrong! Hmmm.

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Nightowlz — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:31:24 GMT

@Alison Wonderland wrote:
You might want to contact HSN about that.

@Alison Wonderland

I don't know why it says bottle when I was talking about a bar of soap.

I did. Reply here:

I am sorry that the ingredients are different then what is listed on the bottle.

I understand the importance of your concerns and appreciate that you have shared them with us. Your concern has been forwarded to the appropriate department and will be reviewed thoroughly. Feedback such as yours contributes to the overall success of our company.

I hope you allow us another opportunity in the future to give you a better shopping experience. Have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

Rachael

hsn.com Customer Service

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Nightowlz — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:39:13 GMT

@Porcelain @BirkiLady @Alison Wonderland

I went back & checked other ingredients. They also show honey in the Honey & Orange Blossom soap which never has had honey listed in the ingredients. Davesforth also shows honey. I have never used it so I don't know anything about it.

The only soap that has honey in it is the Apricot Honey Tea that I know of.

I also see on the new After The Sun Aloe & Lavender they are using Soybean Oil but list no glycerin. Hope they are not planning on removing the glycerin & using soybean oil in all their soaps.

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BirkiLady — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 01:35:50 GMT

@NightowlzI just read the ingredients on HSN for the soaps. Under the Honey & Oats, I believe it says "honeyied flowers" - whatever that is! (Not sure I spelled it correctedly.) Still not interested right now. Delighted you have received a reply from HSN! Hope the two guys respond to you soon (perhaps tomorrow?). This is interesting. Good job!

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RACALAMB2 — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 02:06:12 GMT

@Nightowlz wrote:
@Porcelain @BirkiLady @Alison Wonderland

I went back & checked other ingredients. They also show honey in the Honey & Orange Blossom soap which never has had honey listed in the ingredients. Davesforth also shows honey. I have never used it so I don't know anything about it.
The only soap that has honey in it is the Apricot Honey Tea that I know of.
I also see on the new After The Sun Aloe & Lavender they are using Soybean Oil but list no glycerin. Hope they are not planning on removing the glycerin & using soybean oil in all their soaps.

I asked them on FB about this Honey n Oat NOT having any honey in it, they did not respond! They stopped saying it had HONEY in it,only talked about the oatmeal on Evine.

OMG-I just looked at the Davesforth label It has a

"CAUTION Avoid EYE area this is not a FACIAL bar use on body only.If irritation occurs DISCONTINUE USE AND CONTACT YOUR PHYSICIAN!!!!!!! Wow, I had no idea and they have NEVER mentioned that ever. It does not have honey in it,plus I can't even pronounce the ingredients on Davesforth! Thanks for the heads up,I had no idea about this warning, I was gifting this soap to hubby but NOT NOW!!!

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Judaline — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:58:32 GMT

Going by the ingredients, can they spare the goat's milk? The goat's milk soap I use has the goat's milk as the first ingredient. These sound like any other bar of soap with a little goat's milk thrown in.

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Starliteshine — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:20:48 GMT

@Nightowlz wrote:
@Alison Wonderland wrote:
You might want to contact HSN about that.
@Alison Wonderland

I don't know why it says bottle when I was talking about a bar of soap.

I did. Reply here:
I am sorry that the ingredients are different then what is listed on the bottle.

I understand the importance of your concerns and appreciate that you have shared them with us. Your concern has been forwarded to the appropriate department and will be reviewed thoroughly. Feedback such as yours contributes to the overall success of our company.

I hope you allow us another opportunity in the future to give you a better shopping experience. Have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

Rachael
hsn.com Customer Service

Looks like their standard, scripted reply. Thanks for pointing this out @Nightowlz. I am very curious as to why the discrepencies. I also hope this isn't a case of HSN enticing the vendor to change the formula and make the product cheaper. I have found quality differences between HSN offered products and retail products with some of HSN's other vendors.

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bargainsgirl — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:46:22 GMT

THese guys are marketing geniuses. Be careful of the claims and products. I have the soap which I like but it is pricey. I will stick to my locally made soap makers (Inde Goat Soap) which is wonderful, simple and fair.

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buddysgirl — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:30:33 GMT

One of the poster recommended products from Goat Milk Stuff. I tried several of their products and love them. Shipping was quick. Thank you for the recommendation.

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Lipstickdiva — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:41:45 GMT

@Starliteshine wrote:
@Nightowlz wrote:
@Alison Wonderland wrote:
You might want to contact HSN about that.
@Alison Wonderland

I don't know why it says bottle when I was talking about a bar of soap.

I did. Reply here:
I am sorry that the ingredients are different then what is listed on the bottle.

I understand the importance of your concerns and appreciate that you have shared them with us. Your concern has been forwarded to the appropriate department and will be reviewed thoroughly. Feedback such as yours contributes to the overall success of our company.

I hope you allow us another opportunity in the future to give you a better shopping experience. Have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

Rachael
hsn.com Customer Service
Looks like their standard, scripted reply. Thanks for pointing this out @Nightowlz. I am very curious as to why the discrepencies. I also hope this isn't a case of HSN enticing the vendor to change the formula and make the product cheaper. I have found quality differences between HSN offered products and retail products with some of HSN's other vendors.

I have as well which makes me very leery of buying certain products, particularly skincare, from HSN. I remember a line of skincare products sold on HSN. Her story was that she started making the products in her home. Her name I believe was Vinnie.

Eventually it came out that the products being sold on HSN were not the same as what was being sold in retail. The "famous" active ingredient she used that was supposed to be the game changer was in a far lesser percentage in HSN products.

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brandiwine — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:41:03 GMT

You have all pointed out great reasons to not buy these products. The lack of goat's milk , the false claims and not answering questions. I too am a lover of Goats Milk Stuff soap bars. #1 ingredient: Goats Milk. Fantastic customer service. Their laundry soap is great as well.

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San Antonio Gal — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:10:22 GMT

Why is there no honey in these products that have honey in the name?

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Alison Wonderland — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:13:32 GMT

@bargainsgirl wrote:
THese guys are marketing geniuses. Be careful of the claims and products. I have the soap which I like but it is pricey. I will stick to my locally made soap makers (Inde Goat Soap) which is wonderful, simple and fair.

This is 100% true. I almost bought a bar of their Scent of Autumn soap and then saw the label read "chemical-free" and left the site. No way I'm paying for nothing.

If there's an ingredient in something, it's a chemical - because that's how the world works. Water is a chemical and water is in all soap. Saying something is "chemical-free" tells me you're only concerned with marketing hype and think your consumers are too dumb for science.

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Nightowlz — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:02:04 GMT

@San Antonio Gal wrote:
Why is there no honey in these products that have honey in the name?

@San Antonio Gal

That's the same question I asked when they started selling their products on Evine. When they talk about these soaps they act like there is honey in it. If there is their labels are not correct.

I would think the label is correct & what HSN has on their site is incorrect.

They need to quit saying there is honey in a product if it's not in there. Guess I need to turn them in. LOL!!!

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Nightowlz — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:04:44 GMT

@Alison Wonderland wrote:
@bargainsgirl wrote:
THese guys are marketing geniuses. Be careful of the claims and products. I have the soap which I like but it is pricey. I will stick to my locally made soap makers (Inde Goat Soap) which is wonderful, simple and fair.
This is 100% true. I almost bought a bar of their Scent of Autumn soap and then saw the label read "chemical-free" and left the site. No way I'm paying for nothing.

If there's an ingredient in something, it's a chemical - because that's how the world works. Water is a chemical and water is in all soap. Saying something is "chemical-free" tells me you're only concerned with marketing hype and think your consumers are too dumb for science.

@Alison Wonderland

Chemicals too me are not water but yes I guess it's probably got some in it. I think I know what they mean when they say chemical free. It's like using the word Natural on certain products. It means absolutely nothing.

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Ibby114 — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:45:01 GMT

@buddysgirl wrote:
One of the poster recommended products from Goat Milk Stuff. I tried several of their products and love them. Shipping was quick. Thank you for the recommendation.

@buddysgirl same here! I first ordered during this visit, just to make sure the line didn't change when they moved to hsn. The reviews seem very good still! I ordered the goat milk shampoo & conditoner and the duo hand salve (all fragrance free). After reading this thread I looked at the ingredients again- each have goats milk in them ! I was tempted by the wipes- but I have so many 'Yes to...' unopened packages still, I can wait on them.

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nyc1 — Thu, 20 Sep 2018 19:51:44 GMT

@buddysgirl wrote:
One of the poster recommended products from Goat Milk Stuff. I tried several of their products and love them. Shipping was quick. Thank you for the recommendation.

I am one of a group of people who love the Goat Milk Stuff soaps and their lip balm as well. Their products ship very fast and they are quality.