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    <title>topic Re: Question about eyeliner!! in Beauty</title>
    <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4886394#M659083</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"&gt;Any lid primer will work for upper or lower eyeliner...price is not an issue. My eyes are not sensitive while the product is on, but in the act of removing my eye makeup w/ remover or my oil cleanser, if the primer gets in my eyes, trouble. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"&gt;I’ve tested many primers and some of the less expensive brands have irritating ingredients. I’m not a mu snob. Love my .99 Wet ‘N Wild 666 lip pencil.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2018 02:05:24 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Shanus</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-08-29T02:05:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878584#M658520</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I’ve always lined the top &amp;amp; bottom lashes.Recently I’ve noticed that the liner on the bottom doesn’t last the day .It has to be reapplied 2 or 3 times.I keep buying different brands,all well known brands, &amp;amp; nothing lasts.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&amp;nbsp; I use pencils.I don’t like liquid liners.They look to harsh. I just tried the Urban Decay 24/7 liner &amp;amp; it doesn’t last either.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Any suggestions would be appreciated.Thanx!!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:37:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>NicksmomESQ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T18:37:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878595#M658521</link>
      <description>Eyeshadow using a thin, flat, straight paddle styled brush.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:42:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878595#M658521</guid>
      <dc:creator>JeanLouiseFinch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T18:42:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878603#M658522</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i use a flat brush as&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/202745"&gt;@JeanLouiseFinch&lt;/a&gt; suggested and prefer the cream eyeliners in a pot.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i dont have any problems with eyeliner migration or disappearing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;make sure you allow enough time for your serums and creams to sink in prior to applying.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:46:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878603#M658522</guid>
      <dc:creator>sunshine45</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T18:46:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878604#M658523</link>
      <description>You could use an angled brush, if you prefer. I can do that on the upper lash line but find the straight one to be better for tight lining under/inside the upper lash line</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:46:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878604#M658523</guid>
      <dc:creator>JeanLouiseFinch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T18:46:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878617#M658524</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/27241"&gt;@NicksmomESQ&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I’ve always lined the top &amp;amp; bottom lashes.Recently I’ve noticed that the liner on the bottom doesn’t last the day .It has to be reapplied 2 or 3 times.I keep buying different brands,all well known brands, &amp;amp; nothing lasts.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&amp;nbsp; I use pencils.I don’t like liquid liners.They look to harsh. I just tried the Urban Decay 24/7 liner &amp;amp; it doesn’t last either.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Any suggestions would be appreciated.Thanx!!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/27241"&gt;@NicksmomESQ&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Are you taking about inner or outer bottom lid? Outer lid, underneath, I always suggest using eye shadow...even if you use navy or black, you can smudge it out so it looks less harsh. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"&gt;*****If you’re using a eyelid primer, take a liner brush, put some of the primer on it and apply directly under bottom lashes, let dry. Shadow liners or waterproof only pencils should stay put. You can also use a tiny brush to apply lid primer lightly around lips, tap it until it disappears. This keeps lipstick &amp;amp; gloss from traveling into those cwappy lines.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:54:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878617#M658524</guid>
      <dc:creator>Shanus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T18:54:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878624#M658525</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Have you tried Bobbie Brown's gel liners in a pot? &amp;nbsp;I used them before Urban Decay, and they lasted well. &amp;nbsp;I just prefer a pencil to a pot. &amp;nbsp;Also... if you try them .... be sure to close the top tightly, or they will dry out.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:58:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878624#M658525</guid>
      <dc:creator>ItsME</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T18:58:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878645#M658527</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Laura Geller Kajal Liners are fantastic!! I line upper and on lower can even put on water line. It stays all day! No reapplying - and I am very oily (inc. eye lids) and summers are very humid here. Became an immediate fave after first use. Highly recommend! Oh, I wear contacts and no eye irritation ever, even when I wear on water line.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:12:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878645#M658527</guid>
      <dc:creator>AmericanBulldogMom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:12:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878651#M658529</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/12938"&gt;@ItsME&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Have you tried Bobbie Brown's gel liners in a pot? &amp;nbsp;I used them before Urban Decay, and they lasted well. &amp;nbsp;I just prefer a pencil to a pot. &amp;nbsp;Also... if you try them .... be sure to close the top tightly, or they will dry out.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/12938"&gt;@ItsME&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if i find them drying out, i usually add a drop or two of visine.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:17:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878651#M658529</guid>
      <dc:creator>sunshine45</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:17:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878659#M658530</link>
      <description>&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11034"&gt;@Shanus&lt;/a&gt;-I’ve never used an eyelid primer. What brand do you suggest? I want to try your suggestion about placing it under the bottom lash. Thank you.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:20:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878659#M658530</guid>
      <dc:creator>San Antonio Gal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:20:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878663#M658531</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/244928"&gt;@AmericanBulldogMom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Laura Geller Kajal Liners are fantastic!! I line upper and on lower can even put on water line. It stays all day! No reapplying - and I am very oily (inc. eye lids) and summers are very humid here. Became an immediate fave after first use. Highly recommend! Oh, I wear contacts and no eye irritation ever, even when I wear on water line.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/244928"&gt;@AmericanBulldogMom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Are those the chubby liners? If yes, difficult to do a fine line.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:23:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878663#M658531</guid>
      <dc:creator>Shanus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:23:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878665#M658532</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11034"&gt;@Shanus&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/244928"&gt;@AmericanBulldogMom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Laura Geller Kajal Liners are fantastic!! I line upper and on lower can even put on water line. It stays all day! No reapplying - and I am very oily (inc. eye lids) and summers are very humid here. Became an immediate fave after first use. Highly recommend! Oh, I wear contacts and no eye irritation ever, even when I wear on water line.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/244928"&gt;@AmericanBulldogMom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Are those the chubby liners? If yes, difficult to do a fine line.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11034"&gt;@Shanus&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;Yes, they are chubby. There is a sharpener on the end to keep a point, but I never use it. I apply by holding it at an angle which gives me a fairly thin line, but not “fine” if that’s what you are looking for. Then you’d probably need to use the sharpener.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:26:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AmericanBulldogMom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:26:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878667#M658534</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/250168"&gt;@San Antonio Gal&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11034"&gt;@Shanus&lt;/a&gt;-I’ve never used an eyelid primer. What brand do you suggest? I want to try your suggestion about placing it under the bottom lash. Thank you.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4" color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/250168"&gt;@San Antonio Gal&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; I use Laura Mercier Eye Basics. You can choose a shade to match your skin tone (blank out redness on lid) or they come in lighter shades or darker ones. I’m quite fair &amp;amp; wear Linen. I sometimes wear it without shadow...just add tightline &amp;amp; mascara. Some choose one that’s skin tone as primer &amp;amp; a second darker shade (more taupe) to wear as shadow.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:27:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878667#M658534</guid>
      <dc:creator>Shanus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:27:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878703#M658538</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Thanks ladies! &amp;nbsp;I can always count on my forum friends!!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:48:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878703#M658538</guid>
      <dc:creator>NicksmomESQ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:48:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878710#M658539</link>
      <description>Thx &lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11034"&gt;@Shanus&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:50:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878710#M658539</guid>
      <dc:creator>San Antonio Gal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:50:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4878713#M658540</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/250168"&gt;@San Antonio Gal&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Thx &lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/11034"&gt;@Shanus&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/250168"&gt;@San Antonio Gal&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; 💕&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:51:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Shanus</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-25T19:51:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4879593#M658575</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I use Jordana made to last gel pencil eyeliner on my lower lashline. The only place I have found it is Walgreens. It stays on longer than any other I have found. For upper lashline I use Wet n Wild Megalitarian....it is liquid but has the best, tiniest brush I have found so it is easy to work with for either a thick or a very thin line. It literally stays on until I take it off. The dark brown is perfect...not too harsh like black for my fair skin but dark enough to show up and look like I want. I have tried all the expensive liners but these are what work for me.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2018 03:30:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>lovesrecess</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-26T03:30:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4879721#M658585</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Nyx at the drug store has primers whcih are cheap and work well stay on all day. I have been using them for years. Laura Geller has great primers and Milani at the drugstore which &amp;nbsp;people realy rave about their liners when I am done with my NYX I will give Milani a try.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2018 09:50:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>cuddlesmama</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-26T09:50:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4882667#M658776</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.qvc.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/27241"&gt;@NicksmomESQ&lt;/a&gt;, it might be your eye cream. If there is too much oil around the eye area, your liner can slide away. I love Josie Maran's Devotion but I can't use it when I wear eye makeup. It smudges my eye makeup terribly.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2018 16:10:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tricolor</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-27T16:10:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I use Sephora.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 01:08:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bells4me</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-28T01:08:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Question about eyeliner!!</title>
      <link>https://community.qvc.com/t5/Beauty/Question-about-eyeliner/m-p/4884411#M658928</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="3"&gt;Do you use an eyelid primer?&amp;nbsp; Milani is good.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 05:46:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>chihuahuamom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-28T05:46:12Z</dc:date>
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