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Hair Coloring

kismet — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:24:10 GMT

I have come to a point where I've decided to go to a permanent hair color. I had been using Natural Instincts for several years. I left my hair grow out some to see what color my gray is, pretty color but fades me out too much. I picked up some permanent color but have a question for anyone that could help. I have about an inch and a half of gray in front on top and on the sides by my face. The rest of my hair is light ash brown. I don't want to get an uneven line where the covered gray will meet the rest of my color. Should I just use the color on the gray inch and a half first, wait and then do the rest of the head. When I did the Natural Instincts I put it on the gray and then only put it thorough the rest for 10 minutes. I'm going permanent because I can't seem to get enough cover for the gray.

Re: Hair Coloring

panda1234 — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:31:03 GMT

I have colored my hair for years myself. I now go to the salon and have them do it. They know what they are doing and have better products than what we can purchase.

Re: Hair Coloring

AngelPuppy1 — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:31:52 GMT

@kismet wrote:
I have come to a point where I've decided to go to a permanent hair color. I had been using Natural Instincts for several years. I left my hair grow out some to see what color my gray is, pretty color but fades me out too much. I picked up some permanent color but have a question for anyone that could help. I have about an inch and a half of gray in front on top and on the sides by my face. The rest of my hair is light ash brown. I don't want to get an uneven line where the covered gray will meet the rest of my color. Should I just use the color on the gray inch and a half first, wait and then do the rest of the head. When I did the Natural Instincts I put it on the gray and then only put it thorough the rest for 10 minutes. I'm going permanent because I can't seem to get enough cover for the gray.

@kismet

I used permanent color and I use exactly the procedure your posted. I concentrated on the roots of my hair applying the most product there and applying it first and the longest. For the rest of my hair, not leaving it on that long. I have my hair pretty much the color I want it, so I concenrate mainly on the re-growth and just do the rest sparingly,

Re: Hair Coloring

Jacie — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:21:16 GMT

I recently switched to having my hair colored at the salon. After doing it at home for years I am thrilled to have someone else take on this task. Here is what I found for me:

-As I was aging, the color I used was getting too dark for me.

-It didn't last even 4 weeks anymore, my salon color has gone to 8-12 weeks...permanent color.

-In going lighter, it's more the true color I had when younger, it just didn't "cover" grey, it added depth vs. one flat tone.

I was a Natural Instincts user for a long time, now I just relax and let my expert pamper me!

Re: Hair Coloring

violann — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:02:38 GMT

Not too long ago, a poster mentioned a WONDERFUL product that was available some years ago that was DESIGNED to invigorate the tone of less than lovely gray/white hair.

It worked PERFECTLY for me, blended the several colors of my on-its-way-to-gray hair, was relatively inexpensive, improved the texture and appearance of my hair, and lasted at least 6-7 weeks.

SO, NATURALLY, THEY DISCONTINUED SELLING IT.

I have dyed my hair in the past. I have let my hair grow out in its natural white-in-front-brown/black/gray-in-back.

Now, I’m thinking to try a bright silver-platinum-rose gold color, hoping to blend in with the bald spots on my crown.

Hair color, as with religion, political party and husbands, is ALWAYS a PRIVATE, PERSONAL CHOICE. I don’t CARE how I look unless I frighten dogs and small children. That point may have been reached, so I may have to figure out an alternative.

Re: Hair Coloring

Carmie — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:52:16 GMT

Sem-permanent hair color is designed to gradually wash out of your hair after a month of shampoos. It does not contain enough peroxide to provide color lift and will not lighten your hair.

What is does it paint a color on top of the cuticle layer without depositing color to the cuticle layer.

if you have an inch and a half of gray hair at the roots and the rest of the hair is ash brown, that leads me to believe that you have not applied color in about four months. If that is true, the semi-permanent color has stained your gray hair color and you have been using this semi-permanent color for years.

It is always okay to apply a permanent color over a semi-permanent color. The permanent color will penetrate the cuticle layer of the hair and can even lift the hair color and make it lighter than the natural color.

You should be able to apply permanent color all over your hair at one time with no problems. I would, however, test it by mixing a small amount of color with the developer, equal amounts....use the cap of the color bottle to measure. Do not mix the whole bottle to do this test. Then apply to a small section of your hair from roots to the ends for the suggested amount of time. Wash it out and dry your hair. if you like the results of the strand test, it I see okay to mix the rest of the color and apply.

After that, everytime time you apply the permanent color, apply to the roots only. If your color needs refreshing, pull the color through to the ends for about 5 minutes every few months, but not everytime, or you will dry your hair out and cause damage.

Re: Hair Coloring

sweetee2 — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:05:51 GMT

I've been using Natural Instincts for 30 years and have never had any problems. It doesn't wash out if you use hair products for color treated hair as I would think you do after using any hair coloring products.

I only do my roots and leave it in for 20 minutes like the directions say. No need to apply to the rest of your hair. And believe me I have grey hair. Easy peasy.

Re: Hair Coloring

Carmie — Mon, 30 Apr 2018 15:13:41 GMT

@sweetee2 wrote:
I've been using Natural Instincts for 30 years and have never had any problems. It doesn't wash out if you use hair products for color treated hair as I would think you do after using any hair coloring products.
I only do my roots and leave it in for 20 minutes like the directions say. No need to apply to the rest of your hair. And believe me I have grey hair. Easy peasy.

Natural instincts is made to wash out after about 28 shampoos. It is not supposed to be a permanent hair color and it isn’t.

Semi-permanent hair color is made for people who have some gray hair, but if you have salt and pepper or 100% gray hair, semi- permanent color is not the correct product to be using. It only stains the hair shaft, and does not deposit rich color permanently.

My MIL’s hair was 100% white and she colored at home using semi-permanent color...dark brown/almost black. When she was in natural sun light, some of her hair had a purple cast. I could never get her to come into my shop to have that color removed...she had a ton of buildup and needed use a permanent color.

The OP is wanting to use a permanent color now, so the information I gave her is correct. She is not stating that she is having problems with her color. She wants to change products.

Re: Hair Coloring

kismet — Wed, 02 May 2018 05:47:33 GMT

At first i thought I would go to Natural Instincts Med. Ash Brown but then I thought I would have to stay that dark and eventually I would have to go to a permanent color. The last time I colored my hair was Dec. 8th. It has been awhile and I did notice that my front with just a little gray didn't cover well the last few times. The rest of the hair was fine. Now I do see some gray coming in at the neckline so figured it was time. At my age I can expect to go with a permanent color.

I bought Loreal Excellence in the light ash brown. My hair does tend to have a red tint naturally and I didn't want red in my hair. We use to have a beauty supply here and they were good at recommending color. My daughter use to go and get her hair done there but then they closed. I went to Sally's close to me and honestly I just couldn't ask the young girl, always talking on the phone, for some color advice. I can do it myself also from a beauty supply but if the Excellence comes out fine I'll stay with it.

My daughter and granddaughter both get their hair done at a salon. My daugher is 46 and she already has white hair coming in. I suppose she gets it from my husband's side of the family and her kids.

I do have a short wig, which I haven't worn yet, so if it comes out really bad I can wear that. I did do an allergy check on my elbow to make sure I can use it and should of just put some color on my hair too. Thanks for the info.

Re: Hair Coloring

maestra — Wed, 02 May 2018 12:41:54 GMT

@kismet You still can use a demi-permanent like NI.

I go to Sally Beuaty and purchase the ION demi-permanent and a product called Grey Magic, which really helps w/resistant grey. I have long hair and no fading after nearly 3 weeks; my color is 7AB.

Color roots and then pull through for 10-15 min.

I also purchase and use the Color Sealer and that helps w/no fading.

Re: Hair Coloring

ALRATIBA — Wed, 02 May 2018 14:51:39 GMT

@violann wrote:

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I have dyed my hair in the past. I have let my hair grow out in its natural white-in-front-brown/black/gray-in-back.

Now, I’m thinking to try a bright silver-platinum-rose gold color, hoping to blend in with the bald spots on my crown.
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@violann

Rather than deal with the white/brown issue - I opted to lighten my hair to camouflage the white. I use Feria because it gives me the best results. It colors the white hair to a pretty beige blonde and lightens the brown enough so it looks like my hair is naturally highlighted. What I didn't want is to end up with a head of hair that was all one color - that looks so unnatural. I have used Feria #91 for years. Amazon has the best prices.

From their website: "A twist on the traditional, Feria offers multi-tonal, shimmering colors that never wreck or ravage. With bold shades ranging from our deepest blue blacks to platinum blondes, Feria hair color products are inspired by cutting-edge fashion and the latest trends."

lorealparisusa dot com/products/hair-color/brand/feria.aspx

Re: Hair Coloring

violann — Wed, 02 May 2018 14:56:56 GMT

TOTALLY AGREE @ALRATIBA- Heading for a look.......

Re: Hair Coloring

Nightowlz — Wed, 02 May 2018 16:51:50 GMT

I just bought a Henna Hair color kit. LOL!!! Have not tried it yet. Just a bit leary. Never tried Henna before. Anyone have any Tips?

Re: Hair Coloring

CatsyCline — Wed, 02 May 2018 17:45:28 GMT

I have only used neutral henna that used to come in a tin. It did not change my color but my hair became coarse. Henna bonds with the keratin which makes up the hair, it doesn't wash out like hair dye. if you don't like the results from Henna you may not be able to color over it. It has to grown out or be cut out because it will react with the chemicals used in hair dye. Hair may turn a bad color.

Re: Hair Coloring

CatsyCline — Wed, 02 May 2018 17:49:12 GMT

You can use Henna to color over henna'd hair though - just not regular hair color

Re: Hair Coloring

kismet — Fri, 04 May 2018 03:49:49 GMT

maestra, thanks for telling me what I should get at Sally's. I knew there was something for resistant gray from years ago but never looked into it. Sure wish the beauty supply that closed was still open, they were very good with color.

I have checked out the Ion at Sally's but didn't see a shade that i wanted. I also did check out the loreal site and that didn't have a color in the Fiera. I've been on a lot of sites trying to decide what to get. I was going to use Nice and Easy but after reading the reviews thought that the loreal was better. Really don't like not knowing how much ammonia is in the Loreal but for now will use it and then go to a different Sally's and see if the girl can help me. I tried to get onto the site last night and it said my password was wrong so thought there was something going on at qvc. Today it said the same thing so I had to change the password.

Re: Hair Coloring

mcducky — Fri, 04 May 2018 05:56:34 GMT

I use a professional stylist....pricey but I can't seem to do the color properly myself.

Re: Hair Coloring

Shanus — Fri, 04 May 2018 11:59:57 GMT

@Carmie wrote:
Sem-permanent hair color is designed to gradually wash out of your hair after a month of shampoos. It does not contain enough peroxide to provide color lift and will not lighten your hair.

What is does it paint a color on top of the cuticle layer without depositing color to the cuticle layer.

if you have an inch and a half of gray hair at the roots and the rest of the hair is ash brown, that leads me to believe that you have not applied color in about four months. If that is true, the semi-permanent color has stained your gray hair color and you have been using this semi-permanent color for years.

It is always okay to apply a permanent color over a semi-permanent color. The permanent color will penetrate the cuticle layer of the hair and can even lift the hair color and make it lighter than the natural color.

You should be able to apply permanent color all over your hair at one time with no problems. I would, however, test it by mixing a small amount of color with the developer, equal amounts....use the cap of the color bottle to measure. Do not mix the whole bottle to do this test. Then apply to a small section of your hair from roots to the ends for the suggested amount of time. Wash it out and dry your hair. if you like the results of the strand test, it I see okay to mix the rest of the color and apply.

After that, everytime time you apply the permanent color, apply to the roots only. If your color needs refreshing, pull the color through to the ends for about 5 minutes every few months, but not everytime, or you will dry your hair out and cause damage.

@Carmie Many years ago when I attempted to color all my grey roots myself w/ permanent color, the grey roots if more than 1/2” came out a different color than the rest of my hair. Since the roots are lighter, it stands to reason, it would take the color differently. Also the grey is virgin hair...the rest is porous and colored for years. It sucks up the color and becomes darker than what’s applied to roots.

After awhile the grey hair becomes resistant to home coloring since the peroxide is not as strong as salon color. That’s when I decided to have a stylist color the roots. She used permanent color on the roots and Demi-permanent on the rest...why keep coloring hair that’s not grey? Eventually, I gave up the fight and just let it grow out to its natural grey/white/silver/color. Now just cuts to schedule.

Re: Hair Coloring

lulu1 — Fri, 04 May 2018 13:04:05 GMT

@mcducky wrote:
I use a professional stylist....pricey but I can't seem to do the color properly myself.

@mcducky

I colored my own hair for years, and thought I did a great job. It seemed like overnight my hair had that ombre look. I colored one more time and had "hot roots". Immediately I called my stylist.

I had so many vials of color and developer from Sally's it was sinful. For some insane reason, I couldn't throw them out. Finally about a year ago I tossed everything.