topic Re: DEVACURL UPDATE in Beauty

DEVACURL UPDATE

Shanus — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:27:11 GMT

Well, it wasn’t what I expected! The salon was tiny and crowded, not like the the photos online of the salon in NY...should have expected that.

Out of the 6 stylists there, only one trained in the Curly Girl Method although shelves were stocked with all the Devacurl products. My stylist had not come to work yet...20 minutes late....a bad first impression.

When she arrived, she began in a rushed manner, but I explained that I had waited 20 minutes & didn’t expect to be rushed through my appointment. I was there to learn and needed her to slow down. She started over.

After the washing, conditionings, dripping, scrunching and more dripping.... I leaned over as she squished in conditioner and gel and shook my hair into curls. I had lots of curls, but very sticky hair w/ more product than I’d ever use. After diffuser drying, my hair looked stuck together and like it was dirty and first needed a good shampoo!

Yes, I was disappointed, but without a cut, it was only $20 & I gave her a tip. I learned that these products are not for me. My hair curls just fine w/ my drugstore s&c, gels or mousses. I use silicone/sulfate free which is the same as Devacurl only 1/4 the cost.

Now I can put my curiosity to rest and straighten my hair from time to time w/o feeling guilty.

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Kachina624 — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:35:08 GMT

Good review @Shanus.

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hopi — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:23:37 GMT

It's all about the stylist and the hair cut.

My beliefs are that going for haircut should be a pampering, spa like relaxing situation.

They certainly failed you.

That being said my granddaughter had an amazing cut and her hair was stunning. None of us could replicate the look as the stylist had done

Either way she is young and has a beautiful head of hair. The cost was high and her mother has never taken her back and it's been some years.

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Ibby114 — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:46:01 GMT

@ShanusWith Deva styling products- less is best! I also hate that feeling of 'stuff' in my hair. I really like the Devacurl Styling Cream. I apply it when my hair is jsut washed- and scrunch it throughout my wet hair. But again- less is better!

Sounds like the hairstylist wasn't the best in general- sorry you had to go through that. Sephora will give you tester samples of several styling products- try them!

What drug store styling products do you use?

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SahmIam — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 18:48:55 GMT

@Shanus Well, now you know and have no need to return. ; )

I didn't post my experience because I didn't want to post negative when there were already quite a few.

Mine was horrible. A lot of money, hours at the salon (the cut took FOREVER), a ton of products and my hair looked NO DIFFERENT then how it always did. My DH was ******; he knew how bad I wanted to do this/was looking forward to it. Grandparents came to care for the boys, we took a weekend and drove up....and the look on my face said it all. Waste of time and money.

" You have to crack the glaze on the hair in order for the curls to really look great" were the last words I heard when I left. My hair was a crunchy pile of curls that, when "cracked" then looked like a greasy pile of limp curls from all the glop on my hair. Washed it at the hotel, did what I normally did and never looked back.

Sounds like you came away with a few tips and if so, at least you got something for the money. : )

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Ibby114 — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:32:03 GMT

@SahmIamwrote:
@Shanus Well, now you know and have no need to return. ; )

I didn't post my experience because I didn't want to post negative when there were already quite a few.

Mine was horrible. A lot of money, hours at the salon (the cut took FOREVER), a ton of products and my hair looked NO DIFFERENT then how it always did. My DH was ******; he knew how bad I wanted to do this/was looking forward to it. Grandparents came to care for the boys, we took a weekend and drove up....and the look on my face said it all. Waste of time and money.

" You have to crack the glaze on the hair in order for the curls to really look great" were the last words I heard when I left. My hair was a crunchy pile of curls that, when "cracked" then looked like a greasy pile of limp curls from all the glop on my hair. Washed it at the hotel, did what I normally did and never looked back.

Sounds like you came away with a few tips and if so, at least you got something for the money. : )

@SahmIam YUK !! I have to give my DevaChan stylist kudos then, I had soft bouncy curls when I left the salon. I probably said a zillion times I hated feeling 'stuff' in my hair. And THAT he listened to! (the only thing! )

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Alison Wonderland — Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:15:09 GMT

Was this an actual DevaChan salon, or just a salon with some stylists with Deva Inspired stylists?

Deva Inspired stylists take a 2 day coursein DevaChan methods of curl transformation, dry cutting, and highlighting. Deva Advanced take the Inspired course and a 3 day Advanced course. A DevaCurl certified stylist takes both of those course and then another 2 day course to receive certification.

There is only one L3 DevaCurl Certified stylist in my area and she's 30 miles north of me. There are dozens and dozens of L1 Inspired stylists in my area.

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Shanus — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:47:42 GMT

@Ibby114wrote:
@ShanusWith Deva styling products- less is best! I also hate that feeling of 'stuff' in my hair. I really like the Devacurl Styling Cream. I apply it when my hair is jsut washed- and scrunch it throughout my wet hair. But again- less is better!

Sounds like the hairstylist wasn't the best in general- sorry you had to go through that. Sephora will give you tester samples of several styling products- try them!

What drug store styling products do you use?

@Ibby114. Good morning. I’m mostly using Shea Moisture S&C and their deep conditioner twice a week. I don’t think there’s much difference in performance between the scents. Styling products I use either Garnier Fructis Gel or mousse (for curly hair), Shea Moisture Spray Leave in Cond. for second day hair.

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser? Devacurl products supossedly all have heat protectant built in. My curl/hair is fine, but lots of it....the oils seem to weigh it down. Thanks.

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Shanus — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:50:55 GMT

@SahmIamwrote:
@Shanus Well, now you know and have no need to return. ; )

I didn't post my experience because I didn't want to post negative when there were already quite a few.

Mine was horrible. A lot of money, hours at the salon (the cut took FOREVER), a ton of products and my hair looked NO DIFFERENT then how it always did. My DH was ******; he knew how bad I wanted to do this/was looking forward to it. Grandparents came to care for the boys, we took a weekend and drove up....and the look on my face said it all. Waste of time and money.

" You have to crack the glaze on the hair in order for the curls to really look great" were the last words I heard when I left. My hair was a crunchy pile of curls that, when "cracked" then looked like a greasy pile of limp curls from all the glop on my hair. Washed it at the hotel, did what I normally did and never looked back.

Sounds like you came away with a few tips and if so, at least you got something for the money. : )

@SahmIam. The biggest tip: don’t go back!

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Shanus — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:53:33 GMT

@Ibby114wrote:
@SahmIamwrote:
@Shanus Well, now you know and have no need to return. ; )

I didn't post my experience because I didn't want to post negative when there were already quite a few.

Mine was horrible. A lot of money, hours at the salon (the cut took FOREVER), a ton of products and my hair looked NO DIFFERENT then how it always did. My DH was ******; he knew how bad I wanted to do this/was looking forward to it. Grandparents came to care for the boys, we took a weekend and drove up....and the look on my face said it all. Waste of time and money.

" You have to crack the glaze on the hair in order for the curls to really look great" were the last words I heard when I left. My hair was a crunchy pile of curls that, when "cracked" then looked like a greasy pile of limp curls from all the glop on my hair. Washed it at the hotel, did what I normally did and never looked back.

Sounds like you came away with a few tips and if so, at least you got something for the money. : )
@SahmIam YUK !! I have to give my DevaChan stylist kudos then, I had soft bouncy curls when I left the salon. I probably said a zillion times I hated feeling 'stuff' in my hair. And THAT he listened to! (the only thing! )

@Ibby114 I had enough cwap...heavy leave in conditioner & defining gel for all of us and then a few other people, too. Couldn’t wait to get home to wash it all out!!!!

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Shanus — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:00:53 GMT

@Alison Wonderlandwrote:

Was this an actual DevaChan salon, or just a salon with some stylists with Deva Inspired stylists?

Deva Inspired stylists take a 2 day coursein DevaChan methods of curl transformation, dry cutting, and highlighting. Deva Advanced take the Inspired course and a 3 day Advanced course. A DevaCurl certified stylist takes both of those course and then another 2 day course to receive certification.

There is only one L3 DevaCurl Certified stylist in my area and she's 30 miles north of me. There are dozens and dozens of L1 Inspired stylists in my area.

@Alison Wonderland Well here’s the part that really got me p.o’d. Half way through the “process”, she said she had finished the 1st training...the 2 day course. That was it. She was not informed enough to deal w/ Devacurl, IMO to call herself a Devacurl stylist....but for $20 & thank God I didn’t let her do a cut (would have looked like it was done w/ a lawn mower, I’m sure)....chalk it up to false advertising. Definitely NOT a Deva salon!

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BarbiHollywood — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:14:24 GMT

As a curly girl living in the humidity of Florida, I can relate to wanting perfect curls. I don't have it, unfortunately, and I can't let my hair grow long enough because I get frustrated and end up getting it cut. My entire 53 years I've never had long hair. Wanted it, just never let myself have it. Sometimes I wonder if I were able to find a stylist who KNOWS how and what to do with my kind of hair (coarse) I'd be happy. I have enough of an issue trying to find a stylist who KNOWS how to cut short hair. After two years of going to the same salon and coming out mad at myself for paying an unnecessarily expensive bill for what I left the salon looking like, I am trying a new place tomorrow. It's a horrible feeling to know you spent a ton of money in the hopes of your hair looking great only to end up unhappy with the results.

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ItsME — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:14:51 GMT

@Shanus .... I don't have a good product to recommend, but just want to say that I never use my dryer on high heat. I think you can use a diffuser effectively ... and safely ... on a non-damaging low or medium heat. It will still move air through your hair and get it dry.

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser?

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Shanus — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:23:15 GMT

@ItsMEwrote:
@Shanus .... I don't have a good product to recommend, but just want to say that I never use my dryer on high heat. I think you can use a diffuser effectively ... and safely ... on a non-damaging low or medium heat. It will still move air through your hair and get it dry.

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser?

@ItsME Oh definitely have always used low heat and low speed of air flow. Just assumed a heat protectant wouldn’t hurt...most are full of silicones and quite drying to hair.

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Shanus — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 13:35:59 GMT

@BarbiHollywoodwrote:
As a curly girl living in the humidity of Florida, I can relate to wanting perfect curls. I don't have it, unfortunately, and I can't let my hair grow long enough because I get frustrated and end up getting it cut. My entire 53 years I've never had long hair. Wanted it, just never let myself have it. Sometimes I wonder if I were able to find a stylist who KNOWS how and what to do with my kind of hair (coarse) I'd be happy. I have enough of an issue trying to find a stylist who KNOWS how to cut short hair. After two years of going to the same salon and coming out mad at myself for paying an unnecessarily expensive bill for what I left the salon looking like, I am trying a new place tomorrow. It's a horrible feeling to know you spent a ton of money in the hopes of your hair looking great only to end up unhappy with the results.

@BarbiHollywood Oh please. I hear ya! I’ve kept my curlies in a pixie...long or short pixie for many years looking for a good stylist.

The one I found that helped me transition to my white/silver hair, does a great hair cut....if I want to wear it straight. Most stylists see curly hair & have no idea what to do. The first day this woman saw my hair her 1st comment was,”Have you ever thought of wearing it straight?” Every one has always blown it out w/ the round brush.

Luckliy, mine are looser curls & conditioned enough so minimal frizz. I just go w/ them using the round brush...my curls come back next washing. Just got tired of short hair & on my way to medium length bob w/ long bangs pushed over to the side. I’ve taken the photo to stylist & threatened her not to cut off anything except bangs and a few whisps if a split end...I try to do that myself to keep her scissors away.

My hair appts. with her now are mainly deep conditioning and a toner to keep my hair white & I pay and run before she suggests taking off length.

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Alison Wonderland — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:26:31 GMT

@Shanuswrote:
@Alison Wonderlandwrote:

Was this an actual DevaChan salon, or just a salon with some stylists with Deva Inspired stylists?

Deva Inspired stylists take a 2 day coursein DevaChan methods of curl transformation, dry cutting, and highlighting. Deva Advanced take the Inspired course and a 3 day Advanced course. A DevaCurl certified stylist takes both of those course and then another 2 day course to receive certification.

There is only one L3 DevaCurl Certified stylist in my area and she's 30 miles north of me. There are dozens and dozens of L1 Inspired stylists in my area.

@Alison Wonderland Well here’s the part that really got me p.o’d. Half way through the “process”, she said she had finished the 1st training...the 2 day course. That was it. She was not informed enough to deal w/ Devacurl, IMO to call herself a Devacurl stylist....but for $20 & thank God I didn’t let her do a cut (would have looked like it was done w/ a lawn mower, I’m sure)....chalk it up to false advertising. Definitely NOT a Deva salon!

My advice to anyone scheduling a DevaCut is to visit the Devachan website and use their Find a stylist option. It will list salons near you who have Deva trained stylists AND it displays their level of training. Then I'd call the salon to verify, because they're responsible for updating their own data on the site, so a salon may list a Jackie as a L3 stylist and Jackie may have moved to another city.

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Shanus — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:30:38 GMT

@Alison Wonderlandwrote:
@Shanuswrote:
@Alison Wonderlandwrote:

Was this an actual DevaChan salon, or just a salon with some stylists with Deva Inspired stylists?

Deva Inspired stylists take a 2 day coursein DevaChan methods of curl transformation, dry cutting, and highlighting. Deva Advanced take the Inspired course and a 3 day Advanced course. A DevaCurl certified stylist takes both of those course and then another 2 day course to receive certification.

There is only one L3 DevaCurl Certified stylist in my area and she's 30 miles north of me. There are dozens and dozens of L1 Inspired stylists in my area.

@Alison Wonderland Well here’s the part that really got me p.o’d. Half way through the “process”, she said she had finished the 1st training...the 2 day course. That was it. She was not informed enough to deal w/ Devacurl, IMO to call herself a Devacurl stylist....but for $20 & thank God I didn’t let her do a cut (would have looked like it was done w/ a lawn mower, I’m sure)....chalk it up to false advertising. Definitely NOT a Deva salon!

My advice to anyone scheduling a DevaCut is to visit the Devachan website and use their Find a stylist option. It will list salons near you who have Deva trained stylists AND it displays their level of training. Then I'd call the salon to verify, because they're responsible for updating their own data on the site, so a salon may list a Jackie as a L3 stylist and Jackie may have moved to another city.

@Alison Wonderland You’re absolutely right. This salon was listed under Devachan “find a salon near you”. When I called, they said they were a Devacurl Salon....in actuality, 1 stylist out of 6 was modestly trained & they sold hundreds of Devacurl products.

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Love to read — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:17:08 GMT

I grew up in Florida with curly hair and I was just a big friz ball most of the time. I moved to the midwest many years ago when I married and told my husband that I was in "hair heaven". My hair behaves so much better up here where the heat and humidity are only a few months of the year. I do keep my very curly silver hair quite short now, but have found the best product for me is Nick Chavez's Diva Glitzy Style Glaze. It helps my curls keep their shape, adds shine, AND is not sticky or stiff. It's the best styling product I've ever used and a little goes a long way.

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Ibby114 — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:53:24 GMT

@Shanuswrote:
@Ibby114wrote:
@ShanusWith Deva styling products- less is best! I also hate that feeling of 'stuff' in my hair. I really like the Devacurl Styling Cream. I apply it when my hair is jsut washed- and scrunch it throughout my wet hair. But again- less is better!

Sounds like the hairstylist wasn't the best in general- sorry you had to go through that. Sephora will give you tester samples of several styling products- try them!

What drug store styling products do you use?

@Ibby114. Good morning. I’m mostly using Shea Moisture S&C and their deep conditioner twice a week. I don’t think there’s much difference in performance between the scents. Styling products I use either Garnier Fructis Gel or mousse (for curly hair), Shea Moisture Spray Leave in Cond. for second day hair.

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser? Devacurl products supossedly all have heat protectant built in. My curl/hair is fine, but lots of it....the oils seem to weigh it down. Thanks.

@ShanusBy mentioning 'Shea Moisture S&C' - do you mean their curl and shine line? I'm a big fan of the Shea Moisture items I've tried- their curly hair products primarily The deep conditioner I used is their Shea Butter variety.

I rarely use a dryer on my hair- hopefully others can chime in about heat protection/diffuser.

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Shanus — Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:11:53 GMT

@Ibby114wrote:
@Shanuswrote:
@Ibby114wrote:
@ShanusWith Deva styling products- less is best! I also hate that feeling of 'stuff' in my hair. I really like the Devacurl Styling Cream. I apply it when my hair is jsut washed- and scrunch it throughout my wet hair. But again- less is better!

Sounds like the hairstylist wasn't the best in general- sorry you had to go through that. Sephora will give you tester samples of several styling products- try them!

What drug store styling products do you use?

@Ibby114. Good morning. I’m mostly using Shea Moisture S&C and their deep conditioner twice a week. I don’t think there’s much difference in performance between the scents. Styling products I use either Garnier Fructis Gel or mousse (for curly hair), Shea Moisture Spray Leave in Cond. for second day hair.

Does anyone have a good curly hair product for hear protection...sometimes use my diffuser? Devacurl products supossedly all have heat protectant built in. My curl/hair is fine, but lots of it....the oils seem to weigh it down. Thanks.

@ShanusBy mentioning 'Shea Moisture S&C' - do you mean their curl and shine line? I'm a big fan of the Shea Moisture items I've tried- their curly hair products primarily The deep conditioner I used is their Shea Butter variety.

I rarely use a dryer on my hair- hopefully others can chime in about heat protection/diffuser.

@Ibby114 Yes I use their curl products. I found them accidentally years ago. I was frustrated in products available for curly hair and wandered over to the black women’s hair products.....That’s where I look first now.