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Matrixyl or retinol?

Dazlin — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:28:33 GMT

Would you replace retinol, with matryxil?

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

SahmIam — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:33:26 GMT

The jury is still out for me regarding how good matrixyl is (on many levels). I stopped with retinol and us Alph-Beta Glycolic Peel pads daily and my skin responded faster and with BETTER results than it ever did with using retinol. I think there are many other products out there but you need to experiment with them and that, sadly, costs money.

So, to answer your question: Unless I was having issues with retinol, I would not switch to Matrixyl unless I had some compelling evidence to do so. Good luck with your decision!

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

SilleeMee — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 19:38:11 GMT

The answer is no. Retinol is the gold standard in antiaging skincare. It should not be replaced by anything else. Retinol has a several proven benefits to using it. If anything, you can supplement your routine by adding other products along with the use of retinol.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

suzyQ3 — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:53:33 GMT

@Dazlin, I can't use retinol. I do use a Matrixyl serum and have for some time now. I don't know that it is a substitute. It is the only advanced skincare product.in my regimen.

I buy mine from NCN Professional Skincare. It has all three of the versions of Matrixyl plus other good ingredients. Nanci the owner is having one of her best discounts until the end of this month. Buy one product and get another for 50 percent off.

****edited to remove retail link

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Harpa — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:10:44 GMT

There have been studies done on both.

Every now and then I re-evaluate my own use of retinol. So far, I've ended up with the same conclusion: that if it is still effective for me, (and it is) then why change?

I've used Matrixyl 2x over the course of some years. I couldn't see any visible difference, (not that it didn't do what it is touted to do)...so...it's just not in my present arsenal.

Are you using retinol now @Dazlin? And experiencing any issue?

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

JeanLouiseFinch — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:05:10 GMT

@Dazlinwrote:
Would you replace retinol, with matryxil?

I cover all my bases so I use both...sort of.

I use a serum that contains Matrixyl and other beneficial ingredients. Right now I'm at a crossroads with it, though, and thinking of maybe eliminating it. I've been a serum junkie for awhile now, but sometimes I wonder if I'm going overboard and if I can maintain my healthy complexion with fewer.

Not exactly Retinol, but I use Mad Hippie Vitamin A Serum. It has a form of Vitamin A (Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate - aka HPR) that is ready to be received by the skin w/o the conversion steps that are required by Retinol. There is no irritation with the Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate.

What Is Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Dazlin — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:06:40 GMT

@Harpawrote:
There have been studies done on both.

Every now and then I re-evaluate my own use of retinol. So far, I've ended up with the same conclusion: that if it is still effective for me, (and it is) then why change?

I've used Matrixyl 2x over the course of some years. I couldn't see any visible difference, (not that it didn't do what it is touted to do)...so...it's just not in my present arsenal.

Are you using retinol now @Dazlin? And experiencing any issue?

I use retinol, and have for many years ...no issues. I was looking into Tmeless , a company I buy my C serum. They said instead of making a retinol, they make matryxil serum. So was just wondering what the opinions were here.

Many on this board always suggest their retinol...I haven't forgotten those suggestions . Mad hippie, for one, Alpha Hydrox . I'M currently using Consult Beaute Regenerol ...no issues with that. Just want to know why, or if anyone would replace retinol with matrixyl .

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Shelbelle — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:08:48 GMT

Consult Beaute Regenerol has the highest concentration of Retinol than any other brand, 3%, they buffer it to be gentle.

PTR is only 1.5 %

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Chi-town girl — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:11:10 GMT

@SilleeMeewrote:
The answer is no. Retinol is the gold standard in antiaging skincare. It should not be replaced by anything else. Retinol has a several proven benefits to using it. If anything, you can supplement your routine by adding other products along with the use of retinol.

I use both - Retinol in pm and Matrixyl in am. Adding the Matrixyl to my regime boosted results. And peptides have notched it up.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Shelbelle — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:14:28 GMT

I just did an ebay and amazon search for matrixyl and retinol combined in one cream or serum. Lots of entries came up.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Dazlin — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:17:36 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinchwrote:
@Dazlinwrote:
Would you replace retinol, with matryxil?
I cover all my bases so I use both...sort of.

I use a serum that contains Matrixyl and other beneficial ingredients. Right now I'm at a crossroads with it, though, and thinking of maybe eliminating it. I've been a serum junkie for awhile now, but sometimes I wonder if I'm going overboard and if I can maintain my healthy complexion with fewer.

Not exactly Retinol, but I use Mad Hippie Vitamin A Serum. It has a form of Vitamin A (Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate - aka HPR) that is ready to be received by the skin w/o the conversion steps that are required by Retinol. There is no irritation with the Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate.

What Is Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

JeanLouiseFinch ...I remember you mentioned Mad hippie retinol. I have looked into it. I see it has some oils in it. How does it feel on the skin? Is it oily?

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Day1128 — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:19:00 GMT

Retinol and retinoids are very different. There is a lot of info on the internet if you do a search on both terms. I use Retin A (a retinoid) and I also use matriixyl (both in the evening). I'm not sure if using both is making a difference, but I using RetinA over the last 20 years had definitely made a good difference in the texture of my skin.

Excerpt from one of the sites I looked at:

'Retinoids, compared to retinol, are more powerful and can provide results in a shorter time frame. However, depending on the type of retinoid and its level of potency, they may irritate sensitive skin.'

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Shelbelle — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:20:44 GMT

@Dazlinwrote:
@JeanLouiseFinchwrote:
@Dazlinwrote:
Would you replace retinol, with matryxil?
I cover all my bases so I use both...sort of.

I use a serum that contains Matrixyl and other beneficial ingredients. Right now I'm at a crossroads with it, though, and thinking of maybe eliminating it. I've been a serum junkie for awhile now, but sometimes I wonder if I'm going overboard and if I can maintain my healthy complexion with fewer.

Not exactly Retinol, but I use Mad Hippie Vitamin A Serum. It has a form of Vitamin A (Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate - aka HPR) that is ready to be received by the skin w/o the conversion steps that are required by Retinol. There is no irritation with the Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate.

What Is Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

JeanLouiseFinch ...I remember you mentioned Mad hippie retinol. I have looked into it. I see it has some oils in it. How does it feel on the skin? Is it oily?

Not Jean, but I am also using this product, this is a new type of retinol, Dr Murad is also using it now. This product is not greasy at all, goes on like water, although it is a milky white color. I also use MH C serum under makeup, and use their face cream over them. None of them are heavy or oily at all. I have combo skin.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

JeanLouiseFinch — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:24:49 GMT

@Dazlinwrote:
@JeanLouiseFinchwrote:
@Dazlinwrote:
Would you replace retinol, with matryxil?
I cover all my bases so I use both...sort of.

I use a serum that contains Matrixyl and other beneficial ingredients. Right now I'm at a crossroads with it, though, and thinking of maybe eliminating it. I've been a serum junkie for awhile now, but sometimes I wonder if I'm going overboard and if I can maintain my healthy complexion with fewer.

Not exactly Retinol, but I use Mad Hippie Vitamin A Serum. It has a form of Vitamin A (Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate - aka HPR) that is ready to be received by the skin w/o the conversion steps that are required by Retinol. There is no irritation with the Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate.

What Is Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

JeanLouiseFinch ...I remember you mentioned Mad hippie retinol. I have looked into it. I see it has some oils in it. How does it feel on the skin? Is it oily?

@Dazlin- It's not oily at all. The formula has a milky look to it. It's thin and absorbs easily. There is some fragrance to it but it goes away immediately upon application. I've been using it for several months and have it on an auto-ship plan with Vitacost.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Dazlin — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:26:14 GMT

@Shelbellewrote:
Consult Beaute Regenerol has the highest concentration of Retinol than any other brand, 3%, they buffer it to be gentle.
PTR is only 1.5 %

Consult is what I've been using. No problems with it. I tried PTR , didn't care for it. I never had any good results from PTR serum, or creams. I do however, love his glycolic cleanser. His masks and pads are good too...but I found others for less money, that work just as well. His creams, and seems are out for me.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Dazlin — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:34:42 GMT

Thanks, JLF,...fragrance doesn't bother me at all.

Looks like retinol is gonna win here. I haven't yet decided if I'll go back to Consult Beaute, or try this. I gotta say...most of Consults products have made a nice difference in my skin. Always looking for the next best thing☺

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Shelbelle — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:37:46 GMT

@Dazlinwrote:
@Shelbellewrote:
Consult Beaute Regenerol has the highest concentration of Retinol than any other brand, 3%, they buffer it to be gentle.
PTR is only 1.5 %
Consult is what I've been using. No problems with it. I tried PTR , didn't care for it. I never had any good results from PTR serum, or creams. I do however, love his glycolic cleanser. His masks and pads are good too...but I found others for less money, that work just as well. His creams, and seems are out for me.

I think PTR uses lots of chemicals in his products, especially his masks, also artificial colors and dyes.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Dazlin — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:44:40 GMT

@Shelbellewrote:
I just did an ebay and amazon search for matrixyl and retinol combined in one cream or serum. Lots of entries came up.

Yep, that's where I buy Timeless , and saw they make a Matrixyl serum. Lots of other brands on there, I don't know if I would trust. I think, if I were to stick with a retinol, I'd probably go back to either Consult, SkinMedica, or try mad hippie . Since I use timeless C, and like it, thought I'd look into a retinol if they had it.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

suzyQ3 — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 23:21:10 GMT

@JeanLouiseFinchwrote:
@Dazlinwrote:
Would you replace retinol, with matryxil?
I cover all my bases so I use both...sort of.

I use a serum that contains Matrixyl and other beneficial ingredients. Right now I'm at a crossroads with it, though, and thinking of maybe eliminating it. I've been a serum junkie for awhile now, but sometimes I wonder if I'm going overboard and if I can maintain my healthy complexion with fewer.

Not exactly Retinol, but I use Mad Hippie Vitamin A Serum. It has a form of Vitamin A (Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate - aka HPR) that is ready to be received by the skin w/o the conversion steps that are required by Retinol. There is no irritation with the Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate.

What Is Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

@JeanLouiseFinch, do you have to start slowly with this serum? I've had problems with other OTC retinols.

Re: Matrixyl or retinol?

Shelbelle — Mon, 26 Mar 2018 23:27:59 GMT

@suzyQ3wrote:
@JeanLouiseFinchwrote:
@Dazlinwrote:
Would you replace retinol, with matryxil?
I cover all my bases so I use both...sort of.

I use a serum that contains Matrixyl and other beneficial ingredients. Right now I'm at a crossroads with it, though, and thinking of maybe eliminating it. I've been a serum junkie for awhile now, but sometimes I wonder if I'm going overboard and if I can maintain my healthy complexion with fewer.

Not exactly Retinol, but I use Mad Hippie Vitamin A Serum. It has a form of Vitamin A (Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate - aka HPR) that is ready to be received by the skin w/o the conversion steps that are required by Retinol. There is no irritation with the Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate.

What Is Hydroxypinacolone Retinoate?

@JeanLouiseFinch, do you have to start slowly with this serum? I've had problems with other OTC retinols.

I did not start slowly, and was not using retinol before.