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? For all that use Retinol

shiloh 81 — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 00:10:46 GMT

Do you think it really works? How long have you been using it? What results have you seen that's makes you a believer? Thanks so much

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Day1128 — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 00:30:59 GMT

I use Tretinoin (Retin A), which is a prescription. Have used it for over 10 years and it has helped the texture of my skin remain smooth and even. I am 63, and the inevitable lines and wrinkles are there, but I think there are fewer than I would have had if I had not used the product. As my dermatologist says, it is the gold standard.

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wilma — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 09:39:23 GMT

I have also used prescription Retin A for 3 years. Over the counter retinol did not do anything for me. I am in my 50s with very oily acne prone skin and a few eye and nose to mouth wrinkles. The prescription strength has helped my skin's texture, clarity, and I haven't seen any new wrinkles.

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Shanus — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 12:27:57 GMT

I started using RX strength Retin A about 25-30 yrs. ago. My dermatologist was a personal friend & at THAT time Retin A was usually only prescribed for acne. One of the side effects that docs started noticing was that the exfoliating nature of Retin A kept skin cells turning over & also helped new collagen production. I've noticed my skin looks significantly younger than my friends....but I also have never laid in the sun to tan, wear SPF 50 every day (a MUST w/ Retin A since your skin is more sun sensitive) & have followed a strict skincare routine. I knew w/ such fair skin, I'd have to commit to caring for it to have good results in my 60's.

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chiclet — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 12:28:59 GMT

I am 65 and been using rx tretinoin for a few years. I have always had oily skin and breakouts and it has helped with breakouts. It is hard to say what I would have looked like if not using it. I don't think it does much for pores and am still saggy not not a bunch of wrinkles. Having oily skin it is hard to tell if it is that or the retin a that helps with that. It makes my skin peel every so often so I guess it is an exfoliator.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:20:03 GMT

@shiloh 81 wrote:
Do you think it really works? How long have you been using it? What results have you seen that's makes you a believer? Thanks so much

@shiloh 81 Count me in on those who believe prescription Retin-A/Tretinoin is far more effective than OTC retinol. For it to be received by the skin, it needs to be in the form of retinoic acid. Retin-A/Tretinoin already is retinoic acid whereas Retinol has to go through several conversion steps to become retinoic acid. With each conversion step, the retinol weakens and the effectiveness is lessened.

Retinol vs. Retin-A

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tototwo — Sun, 20 Nov 2016 21:16:38 GMT

I'm 67 and use an OTC Retinol every night. I tried Retin-A many, many years ago but it burned and made my skin peel, even using it once a week. I decided if something caused that much damage to my skin, how could it actually do any good? So I switched to a Retinol and it was like a breath of fresh air for my complexion.

Someone on this board told me there were no overnight results from Retinol, but it kind of stops time on the face. Whoever this wise woman was, she was totally correct. Except for the slight exfoliation, there wasn't any immediate change. But, since I started using it 10+ years ago, my face and neck haven't seemed to age. I don't have wrinkles and my complexion is smooth. Is it good genes or the Retinol? Who knows?

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ccassaday — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 14:47:01 GMT

Retina A is not retinol. Retinol is the lesser sister of retina A. Just so the OP knows. I have been using PC retinol but I haven't really noticed anything with my deep I laugh lines. But overall with my skincare and PC products my skin looks really good.

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Harpa — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 16:42:13 GMT

@tototwo wrote:
I'm 67 and use an OTC Retinol every night. I tried Retin-A many, many years ago but it burned and made my skin peel, even using it once a week. I decided if something caused that much damage to my skin, how could it actually do any good? So I switched to a Retinol and it was like a breath of fresh air for my complexion.

Someone on this board told me there were no overnight results from Retinol, but it kind of stops time on the face. Whoever this wise woman was, she was totally correct. Except for the slight exfoliation, there wasn't any immediate change. But, since I started using it 10+ years ago, my face and neck haven't seemed to age. I don't have wrinkles and my complexion is smooth. Is it good genetics or the Retinol? Who knows?

@This is my experience (63), using retinol @ .15% for 9 years. I just don't need Retin A; I never had acneic skin.

It's all I use at night these days (no moisturizer at all at night), though I do use extra eye & neck treatments.

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SilleeMee — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:05:21 GMT

I've been using retinol for about two years. I'm 61 and never had any wrinkles to begin with. I do, however, have those vertical lip lines around my mouth and retinol does not seem to do anything for them. What I have noticed after using retinol all this time is that my skin appears really shiny-smooth, almost bordering unnaturally shiny even without anything on it. I also use it on my neck and dec which I think helps keep any crepiness at bay.

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MarieIG — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:06:45 GMT

My impression is that a good retinol can help reduce fine lines over time. It may be a good place to start. Yes I have used retinol - and Retin A. If I could only choose one, it would be Retin A. Currently, I am alternating.

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shiloh 81 — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:48:49 GMT

Thanks everyone for your replies. My skin can be very sensitive so I would not choose a prescription. I've tried different Paulas Choice retinol and only did a couple of times a week and my skin would be Tight and Dry and flakey. Now I've been using the Paulas Choice Resist Retinol Skin smoothing body treat on my face mixed with my CeraVe Moisturizer. When I spoke with Paulas Choice customer service they said this would be a good alternative for me.

I can say that my skin texture looks better and more clear but my skin doesn't have the glow it used to. It seems to be dull. So I'm just not sure if I want to continue to use it. Just wanted anyone's opinion on what there skin looks like with Retinol.

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Shelbelle — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:19:40 GMT

Consult Beaute on Evine has the highest % I have ever seen for OTC, his is 3% in the serum concentrate. . I used PTR and Dr Gross, neither did a thing for me.

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Posh Poodle — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:39:34 GMT

@shiloh 81 wrote:
Do you think it really works? How long have you been using it? What results have you seen that's makes you a believer? Thanks so much

Hi, I've been using prescription retina-a for over a year to up my game, so to speak. My dermatologist sings it's praises, but it can be a bit drying, esp in winter. So I just put a few drops of Josie's Aragan oil with it and problem solved! I told my dermatologist about adding the Aragan oil to retina-a, and she stated that was just fine--that it would not reduce its effectiveness whatsoever. A lot goes a long way, and it is very expensive, yet my FSA program reimburses me. I am still young and am using for prevention 10-20 years down the road. Give it a try.

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MarieIG — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 20:40:43 GMT

@shiloh 81 wrote:
Thanks everyone for your replies. My skin can be very sensitive so I would not choose a prescription. I've tried different Paulas Choice retinol and only did a couple of times a week and my skin would be Tight and Dry and flakey. Now I've been using the Paulas Choice Resist Retinol Skin smoothing body treat on my face mixed with my CeraVe Moisturizer. When I spoke with Paulas Choice customer service they said this would be a good alternative for me.

I can say that my skin texture looks better and more clear but my skin doesn't have the glow it used to. It seems to be dull. So I'm just not sure if I want to continue to use it. Just wanted anyone's opinion on what there skin looks like with Retinol.

It sounds like you are getting results, just need to fine tune your routine to make sure flakes are removed and your skin is properly moisturized and protected. For me, because I am no longer young, the "glow" in my opinion takes a lot of work. Due to the exfoliation factor of retinol/ retin A it can leave your skin looking flaky or dry. I also use a gentle exfoliant when necessary in the mornings daily to remove any peels. (Again, this is my opinion - some peeling is o.k., you can exfoliate that and reveal the skin beneath: redness or irritation is not). For dryness, look up "buffering" retin A. I listen to my skin and if necessary back off for a day or two. Also, I moisturize, use vitamin C for brightness, and work on the glow from the inside out with food and supplements.

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sueinsf — Sat, 19 Nov 2016 20:25:45 GMT

@Shelbelle wrote:
Consult Beaute on Evine has the highest % I have ever seen for OTC, his is 3% in the serum concentrate. . I used PTR and Dr Gross, neither did a thing for me.

I've never used any prescription but I too tried Dr. Gross, PTR and now Paula's Choice retinol. Not really sure any of them has had any noticeable effect (certainly not on wrinkles) but perhaps it is subtle. I recently saw a colleague who I hadn't seen in 2-3 years and he told me I didn't age (a great compliment). I also had a facial recently during an out of town mini vacation and the esthetitian was surprised at my age. I'm not sure it is because of retinol products but it might help. I've also been happy with the Elysee trio of serums I got on their last TSV that I use daytime.

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Dazlin — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 23:49:46 GMT

I'm seeing a difference with Consult Beaute. I use the pads, serum, then cream, Regenerol line. I exfoliate every morning and use their caviar cleanser. My skin is glowing. No retinol I have ever used reduces lines or prevented new ones. I also have used Skinmedica 1% retinol. I am starting on their Ceramide cream, since I'm aggravated with Evine shipping, and Consult Beaute half filled jars. But I hope to stay with their pads, and serum. Now I want to mention...I went to my Derm for a filler consultation for my smile lines, and they made it clear...no cream will remove wrinkles or lines. They may add moisture to the skin and temporarily plump, but the deeper lines are from the facial skin folding in. Only a lift from fillers in cheeks or injected directly into lines will smooth it out. They said I have beautiful full skin...just need these lines out around mouth. I will continue to take care of my skin regardless. I also will have Juverderm done on the lines. I have lost volume in my face, and no retinol or cream is going to give that back.

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Shelbelle — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 00:31:35 GMT

@Dazlin wrote:
I'm seeing a difference with Consult Beaute. I use the pads, serum, then cream, Regenerol line. I exfoliate every morning and use their caviar cleanser. My skin is glowing. No retinol I have ever used reduces lines or prevented new ones. I also have used Skinmedica 1% retinol. I am starting on their Ceramide cream, since I'm aggravated with Evine shipping, and Consult Beaute half filled jars. But I hope to stay with their pads, and serum. Now I want to mention...I went to my Derm for a filler consultation for my smile lines, and they made it clear...no cream will remove wrinkles or lines. They may add moisture to the skin and temporarily plump, but the deeper lines are from the facial skin folding in. Only a lift from fillers in cheeks or injected directly into lines will smooth it out. They said I have beautiful full skin...just need these lines out around mouth. I will continue to take care of my skin regardless. I also will have Juverderm done on the lines. I have lost volume in my face, and no retinol or cream is going to give that back.

Dr Dubrow says his Consult Beaute Volumagen line will help to bring the volume back, cant hurt to try it.

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Dazlin — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 20:25:12 GMT

I have tried the Volumagen...it DID NOT add any volume. I used both serum and cream...no added volume...but nice moisturizers. I watched the presentations with that model who was all plumped out and lifted...I saw nothing like that. I'll continue with their Regenerol line..just for nice skin.