topic Re: Am I Overly Sensitive in Beauty

Am I Overly Sensitive

Jordan2 — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:35:41 GMT

If you think I am too sensitive please feel free to tell me. I was watching a presentation of Dimitri's TTV yesterday (the hair set). He said something that I was bothered by. He was talking about hair coloring, how his shampoo and conditioner was gentle on it. He said box coloring is cheap, coloring your hair with box coloring looks cheap. He then said it doesn't do a good job, and you have a rainbow of colors on your hair. It also doesn't cover the gray well. I use box coloring. Do I use it because I love it, no. Money is tight for me and I make the decision to color my own hair, I rather spend the money on a haircut. I would love to get both my hair colored and cut, but I can't. Dimitri should realize not everyone has the funds to get their hair professionally colored. I just think it was an unkind thing to say, even if it might be true.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

sassenach1 — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:41:48 GMT

@Jordan2

Any vendor and host on QVC is selling a product. It is about getting a sale. Don't internalize or be hurt by Dmitri's comment. It is his opinion.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

Desi — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:45:06 GMT

I know that I am. Having admitted that, anything a vendor says is designed to sell his line. So don't take it personally and it doesn't mean what they say is definitely factual, applies to you, or anything else. I color my own hair too. The one time I went to a pricy salon, they did a lousy job!

It's like the makeup counters at dept. stores. I still remember every mean comment any of the SAs has made that really hurt my feelings. You know they do it to sell you product to "correct" whatever flaw they just made you feel like ****** about. It's all about selling.

So yes, you and I are too sensitive, your hair looks fine, you are smart with your money and it's hurts their bottom-line - you win!

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

FUTURE — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:48:05 GMT

Just want to say that I've seen some people that pay a pretty penny for salon color that doesn't look good! Don't worry about Dimitri. Was it insensitive? Yes. Was he just trying to make a sale? Yes. You do what works for you, and let the comments roll off your back.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

kcladyz — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:50:38 GMT

That annoys me also. I used box color with good results the majority of the time. I stopped coloring because stupid me did not realize not to dye the ends all the time, now my hair will not take color so i am growing it out *sigh*

i was reading an article on salon shampoo vs drugstore and the lady makes a comment about how box color is ****** and go ahead and use harsh shampoo. Made me kinda mad.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

KentuckyWoman — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:54:02 GMT

One of my best friends has the most beautiful color of blond hair I've ever seen. It looks so natural and healthy. She has her hair cut short and styles it with waves and curls. I always assumed she had it done at the salon. When I asked her what colors her stylist mixed, she told me she buys it at Walmart and does it herself. I was floored. I will admit I have tried it drugstore brands with disastrous results but the color looks lovely and natural on my friend.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

BlingQueen022 — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:56:41 GMT

@Jordan2 wrote:
If you think I am too sensitive please feel free to tell me. I was watching a presentation of Dimitri's TTV yesterday (the hair set). He said something that I was bothered by. He was talking about hair coloring, how his shampoo and conditioner was gentle on it. He said box coloring is cheap, coloring your hair with box coloring looks cheap. He then said it doesn't do a good job, and you have a rainbow of colors on your hair. It also doesn't cover the gray well. I use box coloring. Do I use it because I love it, no. Money is tight for me and I make the decision to color my own hair, I rather spend the money on a haircut. I would love to get both my hair colored and cut, but I can't. Dimitri should realize not everyone has the funds to get their hair professionally colored. I just think it was an unkind thing to say, even if it might be true.

@Jordan2 I could care less what he says. All he wants to do is make a sale and make more money. I was going to a salon to get my hair colored, but it was costing a fortune and the color didn't last as long as when I was using a box color. I went back to using my old stand by which costs an average of 2.97 called Color Silk. That color lasts me a good full three months. Best hair color going as far as I'm concerned. If they stop making that product, I'd be up a creek.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

sparklestar — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:59:39 GMT

@Jordan2 take what you hear with a grain of salt. I colored my hair using over the counter products and now I purchase the color and developer myself and get longer coverage. I've had my hair colored three separate times in the salong and each time it looked awful. Do what works for you.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

Jacie — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:00:22 GMT

Dimitri is a dingbat. Color on girlfriends!

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

qualitygal — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:03:21 GMT

Don't take it personally. In order to sell their stuff, they have to tell you how bad anything he isn't selling is compared to his. It's just a way of selling.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

JustJazzmom — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:04:23 GMT

There are ways to say things without dissing other products. He could have said that his shampoo is gentle on all dyed hair and should have left it at that!

Unless he has a dye available for sale from his line of beauty, I would just ignore the comment. If he has hair dyes available, then he is probably pushing sales for it over the box dyes.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

aprilskies — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:07:39 GMT

This is exactly how they get us to part with our money -by playing on our emotions, even if we have a stockpile of stuff already. As others have said, he is just trying to make a sale. I have colored my own hair for the last several years, it looks no different than when I use to get it done at the salon. The only difference is I sometimes miss spots when doing my roots. It bugs me but I have learned to let it go over the years since I have to color it so often anyway.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

HiLo — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:26:51 GMT

People with money don't seem to understand that many of us don't, are just making it and keeping ourselves above water..

Suppose the best way for me to address all this is just stop watching this so I'm not tempted.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

SahmIam — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:33:39 GMT

I'll be the lone naysayer here but do hear me out: I think if you have long hair or dye your hair a dark/fashion color, then yes, it can look fake and obvious.

I've colored my hair since I was 13; I'm over 50. When my hair was short, it was easy to do. I have naturally dark hair and would use all sorts of shades (even went blond a few times-not a good look). I grew my hair out to shoulder length and still home colored; many women would ask me where I had it done and would be shocked when I said "my bathroom". They would want to know what product and color; I always told them.

Two things happened when I hit my 40's: I grew my hair longer AND my thyroid blew. My hair texture changed and suddenly color didn't take or look good any longer. Didn't matter what brand; it looked flat and patchy; pictures do NOT lie. During a meeting at school with some other women, the subject of hair coloring came up and every woman there admitted that they were going to a salon because of the same issues they were having with their color not looking good.

I do know a few women who color at home; they have light hair and the longest has it just to her shoulders. It looks great. My dearest friend, however, has dark hair like me and it looks flat and harsh- she is also just about completely grey; I don't know about the other women.

Last, I think color kits have changed quite a bit since I started. I don't remember them being so harsh and... drying (another reason I started going to the salon). I remember the mousse-like color by Clairol (which I used for years) that faded after 14 shampoos or so. LOVED it and was perfect because it was so gentle; it and many other products are gone. I find most don't cover the grey well, fade quickly and leave my hair feeling....gross.

I've seen many a "did it at home job" walk into the salon while I was there and wow.... it DID look bad. It also cost a pretty penny to fix. I've seen women come in with flat dull color hair and leaving with a gorgeous color (no foils or highlights applied). But all these women had medium to dark hair.

In the end, you have to do what works for you. He's a former hair stylist don't forget; they ALL think box coloring is bad.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

Carmie — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:40:47 GMT

@Jordan2 wrote:
If you think I am too sensitive please feel free to tell me. I was watching a presentation of Dimitri's TTV yesterday (the hair set). He said something that I was bothered by. He was talking about hair coloring, how his shampoo and conditioner was gentle on it. He said box coloring is cheap, coloring your hair with box coloring looks cheap. He then said it doesn't do a good job, and you have a rainbow of colors on your hair. It also doesn't cover the gray well. I use box coloring. Do I use it because I love it, no. Money is tight for me and I make the decision to color my own hair, I rather spend the money on a haircut. I would love to get both my hair colored and cut, but I can't. Dimitri should realize not everyone has the funds to get their hair professionally colored. I just think it was an unkind thing to say, even if it might be true.

Everytime I see Dimitri on my large screen TV. I cringe when I look at his hair. I don't know who does his color, but it is awful. I can 100% tell his hair is colored. It looks so unnatural and fake.

i can tell you from professional experience that box color is the same as professional color. The difference is box color is used as sold. Professional colorist add a drop of this and a little of that to customize the color. For instance, green, red, blue and orange is added to standard colors if needed to change the tone, or more than one color is used together. You are paying for their expertise and experience as they may apply it differently to get different effects and color levels and tones

Go ahead and use your box color if you are happy with it. There is nothing wrong with it.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

Carmie — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:46:50 GMT

@SahmIam wrote:
I'll be the lone naysayer here but do hear me out: I think if you have long hair or dye your hair a dark/fashion color, then yes, it can look fake and obvious.

I've colored my hair since I was 13; I'm over 50. When my hair was short, it was easy to do. I have naturally dark hair and would use all sorts of shades (even went blond a few times-not a good look). I grew my hair out to shoulder length and still home colored; many women would ask me where I had it done and would be shocked when I said "my bathroom". They would want to know what product and color; I always told them.

Two things happened when I hit my 40's: I grew my hair longer AND my thyroid blew. My hair texture changed and suddenly color didn't take or look good any longer. Didn't matter what brand; it looked flat and patchy; pictures do NOT lie. During a meeting at school with some other women, the subject of hair coloring came up and every woman there admitted that they were going to a salon because of the same issues they were having with their color not looking good.

I do know a few women who color at home; they have light hair and the longest has it just to her shoulders. It looks great. My dearest friend, however, has dark hair like me and it looks flat and harsh- she is also just about completely grey; I don't know about the other women.

Last, I think color kits have changed quite a bit since I started. I don't remember them being so harsh and... drying (another reason I started going to the salon). I remember the mousse-like color by Clairol (which I used for years) that faded after 14 shampoos or so. LOVED it and was perfect because it was so gentle; it and many other products are gone. I find most don't cover the grey well, fade quickly and leave my hair feeling....gross.

I've seen many a "did it at home job" walk into the salon while I was there and wow.... it DID look bad. It also cost a pretty penny to fix. I've seen women come in with flat dull color hair and leaving with a gorgeous color (no foils or highlights applied). But all these women had medium to dark hair.

In the end, you have to do what works for you. He's a former hair stylist don't forget; they ALL think box coloring is bad.

Hmmm,I am a licensed stylist who specialized in coloring and corrective color and I don't think box color is so bad. It's the poor choice in choosing the wrong color or poor application that can make it look bad

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

willdob3 — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:48:09 GMT

Yes, you are too sensitive.

If you take everything every vendor says as absolute truth you would buy every single product from each and every one of them. Bottom line - they are ALL highly skilled salespeople. Remember that.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

SahmIam — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:06:47 GMT

@Carmie I didn't say it was bad; I said the coloring (be it application or the shade) can look bad.

And it often does. I'll add that dark/flat color on older women AND men can look harsh as well; doesn't matter if it's from a box or a stylist.

Just my opinion.

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

Gokat — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 21:20:06 GMT

I know you watch Dimitri on occasion @Jordan2 ...so I'm sure you're aware he's a very sensitive, kind, and generous individual.

He's on Evine for hours upon hours when the Skinn shows are scheduled so I have to cut him some slack. Also, his whole life has been centered around beauty/skincare so I'm sure his opinions can be slanted, based on his little corner of the world.

I heard the comment you speak of. He was rambling on about his haircare and how it's formulated ....yada yada yada....always a mile a minute! I'm sure he's completely unaware that what he said would attack anyone's sensibilities. Using blanket statements leaves lots of room for exceptions.

I can't say I totally disagree with him, but my experience has been very different. So much with coloring depends on the condition of the hair, what shade you choose, how far it is from your natural color, and how many chemicals are needed to achieve it. My experience with professional colorists hasn't been good here so my results were always much more natural with boxed coloring. I'm not crazy about what Dimitri is doing with his "mane" lately so if that's an example of what he's talking about No thanks.

I hope you won't take the comments to heart as I really feel that's a waste of time on your part. You know your own hair and what you like and you're certainly not beholden to Dimitri or anyone else for what you choose. I don't know about you, but if I can duplicate a service for less money and like it more....cheap is a compliment, baby!!

Re: Am I Overly Sensitive

suzyQ3 — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:45:10 GMT

There's really nothing wrong with being sensitive about what someone says. It's the rare person who hasn't felt like that at one time or another. Just don't mull it over too long. :-)

And I really don't think this thread was meant to become a discussion of one method vs. another but about words that either shouldn't have been said or should have been said with more thoughtfulness.

I doubt that he meant any offense whatsoever, but that doesn't necessarily help the person who feels bad at hearing someone say that. Glad you got it out of your system by posting. :-)