topic Re: Hair coloring method in Beauty

Hair coloring method

feline groovy — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 03:05:33 GMT

Here's a new healthier method I was hoping to try:

Apply permanent color to just my grays.

(the roots surrounding my face + on top of my head)

Apply demi-permanent color to the rest.

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Question #1:

Can I safely use two different brands?

(trying to keep my budget in check)

Question #2:

Can I actually apply one right after the other?

(do the roots first, then the rest)

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I've searched online, but any advice or tips here would also be appreciated.

Thanks.

Re: Hair coloring method

PinkyPetunia — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 00:59:09 GMT

I don't think the 2 types of dyes are compatible and I would not use both at the same time. You can call the 1-800 phone number on the box of dye to make sure.

Just wondering why you'd want to use the 2 products at the same time. It seems to overly complicate the whole hair color process. I don't get what hair color has to do with health.

Re: Hair coloring method

Cookie2025 — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:14:34 GMT

Why not follow the directions - 25 minutes on the roots ONLY - then pull the color to your ends - let sit 5 minutes. Rinse.

Re: Hair coloring method

jaxs mom — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:16:26 GMT

I'm not sure why you'd want to do this? When you say semi permanant are you actually meaning demi permanant like Natural Instincts? A true semi permanant is going to fade quickly and It's going to look odd having permanant on part of your hair and fading semi on another part. But maybe I'm not quite understaning what you're going for?

Re: Hair coloring method

jaxs mom — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:18:54 GMT

@Cookie2025 wrote:
Why not follow the directions - 25 minutes on the roots ONLY - then pull the color to your ends - let sit 5 minutes. Rinse.

Pulling it throught the ends every time will really damage your hair over time. You're reapplying that color many times over the span of a year or two, if you're coloring your roots every 8 weeks. Unless your hair is very short in which case, it's cut so frequently it's not an issue.

Re: Hair coloring method

Nonametoday — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:36:11 GMT

You can really get some interesting colors when using a permanent and a semi-permanent on the same head of hair. You may qualify for a grant of some kind. These are chemicals, different chemicals. Best thing to do is let a professional do your hair when you have no idea what you are doing.

Re: Hair coloring method

Sister Golden Hair — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:41:23 GMT

@feline groovy What color is your hair?

Re: Hair coloring method

Imadickens — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:56:07 GMT

My guess is that OP is concerned with applying permanent color all over her head. I have that same concern. Although the Demi permanent color, like Natural Instincts doesn't cover gray nearly as well, it will blend gray hair with what's left of the original color. The other key is to use as light a color as possible. It seems the darker colors are the most dangerous. That said, my great aunt died her hair jet black for the last 50+ years of her life, living well into her late 80's or early 90's! If you are truly worried about the color, have the hair pulled heavily through a frosting cap, then have color put on that hair. That way the least amount of product will touch your scalp.

There are some safer, more natural coloring products made but they all have Henna and I'm allergic to Henna! I hope someone finally figures out how we can be beautiful and healthy! I'm not vain at all, it's just my hair is truly hideous gray! The front is like white cotton in color and texture! The top is salt and pepper. Under that, above my ears is all white, but silky. Then, the back of my hair is the color of black coffee! Not exactly stunning! I scare small children and all animals with my hair naturally gray!😳

Re: Hair coloring method

feline groovy — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:32:30 GMT

@PinkyPetunia wrote:
I don't think the 2 types of dyes are compatible and I would not use both at the same time. You can call the 1-800 phone number on the box of dye to make sure.

Just wondering why you'd want to use the 2 products at the same time. It seems to overly complicate the whole hair color process. I don't get what hair color has to do with health.

@PinkyPetunia

Because permanent all-over color, then permanent root touch in-between, is more drying to your hair and scalp.

My wavy naturally-dry baby-fine hair is fragile enough, LOL.

I do take good care of it, though, including supplement-wise.

Thanks for your recc; sorry if I confused you.

Re: Hair coloring method

feline groovy — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:19:48 GMT

@Cookie2025 wrote:
Why not follow the directions - 25 minutes on the roots ONLY - then pull the color to your ends - let sit 5 minutes. Rinse.

I have (over the decades, LOL), but just thought that since I only need permanent color and its longer- lasting gray coverage on the areas I mentioned, it would be healthier for the rest of my hair to use a less-drying form.

Re: Hair coloring method

feline groovy — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:31:51 GMT

@jaxs mom wrote:
I'm not sure why you'd want to do this? When you say semi permanant are you actually meaning demi permanant like Natural Instincts? A true semi permanant is going to fade quickly and It's going to look odd having permanant on part of your hair and fading semi on another part. But maybe I'm not quite understaning what you're going for?

@jaxs mom

Yes, Clairol's 'Natural Instincts'. Thanks for the alert to my typo - I corrected it.

I thought it would be better for the health of my hair, especially the ends.

Which are trimmed on a mostly-regular basis, BTW.

My apologies in not expressing things more clearly. ;-)

Re: Hair coloring method

feline groovy — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:33:01 GMT

@Sister Golden Hair

It's medium-to-dark brown.

Re: Hair coloring method

ugabugabooooo — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:37:19 GMT

I only do the roots. I never run it through the rest of my hair ever. Why not just do roots? I do roots twice and the go to my stylist and she does hilights and lowlights so I cannot run it through the roots or I will mess up the highlights. I have never understood why you would need to retouch the already permanent colored hair again unless you needed to lighten or darken it for some reason.

Re: Hair coloring method

Sister Golden Hair — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:37:32 GMT

@feline groovy wrote:
@Sister Golden Hair

It's medium-to-dark brown.

@feline groovy Even though my hair is blonde, I have the beauty shop only color my roots. As @jaxs mom said, it is hard on your hair to continue to color the bottom part.

Have you thought about going to the beauty shop for help?

And I know with darker hair your roots do show more than on blonde hair.

Re: Hair coloring method

feline groovy — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 03:09:05 GMT

@NameAlreadyTaken wrote:
You can really get some interesting colors when using a permanent and a semi-permanent on the same head of hair. You may qualify for a grant of some kind. These are chemicals, different chemicals. Best thing to do is let a professional do your hair when you have no idea what you are doing.

@Nonametoday

I do know that they're two separate types of processes.

I've gone to salons on and off, but salon color doesn't fit my current super-tight budget.

You're assuming that I'm a newbie at hair color , but I agree when it comes to total neophytes.

Re: Hair coloring method

mac116 — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:52:49 GMT

I get my hair color at Sally Beauty, under the assumption that it is a more professional product. I do my roots, then the 5 minute comb through because my hair color fades a bit during the six weeks between coloring. I used to get my hair done at the salon, but the cost went through the roof! I paid $140 for a haircut and color the last time they did it. I can get the products at Sally for less than $10 and do it myself. My hair is in excellent shape.

Re: Hair coloring method

feline groovy — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 03:06:45 GMT

@Sister Golden Hair wrote:
@feline groovy wrote:
@Sister Golden Hair

It's medium-to-dark brown.
@feline groovy Even though my hair is blonde, I have the beauty shop only color my roots. As @jaxs mom said, it is hard on your hair to continue to color the bottom part.

Have you thought about going to the beauty shop for help?

And I know with darker hair your roots do show more than on blonde hair.

That's smart, @Sister Golden Hair, and it's nice that grays in flaxen hair can often look like highlights if they're not too ashy in tone.

Especially with shorter hair lengths.

I haven't asked for local salon advice just yet , since I dont have a regular colorist and just go to Great Clips for trims and cuts.

Affordable and decent, at least in my experience.

Yep, those gray/silver/white buggers are more noticeable in darker hair, LOL.

Thankful I don't have a huge amount of them so far.

Re: Hair coloring method

phoenixbrd — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 03:07:56 GMT

I'm using Herbatint that I purchase at Whole Foods for $18.00 and it looks as good without the harsh chemicals and the $150 bill. My hairdresser who trims 1/2" off my long hair every 6-8 weeks says it looks great. It covers gray and I only do roots every 4-6 weeks pulling it through only right before I shampoo it off to freshen the color of the rest of my hair. I recently went from 8n to 7n as the blond was looking a little too light throughout the few weeks. I love my hair color (very natural) and my budget loves it too.....$10 for trim $18 for color every 6 weeks! Whole Foods has supplied my hair color for the last few years and I've been really satisfied with the results....wouldn't let a salon touch it!

Re: Hair coloring method

Bibione — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 03:16:07 GMT

I absolutely love Herbatint.Vitacost has it for about 10.oo dollars.I get lots of compliments when I use Copper Chestnut.Also it is made in Italy and doesn't have many chemicals.Strangely I fly to Italy often to visit my elderly mother but I never see Herbatint sold there,even in the health food stores.

Re: Hair coloring method

feline groovy — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 03:18:17 GMT

@ugabugabooooo wrote:
I only do the roots. I never run it through the rest of my hair ever. Why not just do roots?

I do roots twice and the go to my stylist and she does hilights and lowlights so I cannot run it through the roots or I will mess up the highlights.

I have never understood why you would need to retouch the already permanent colored hair again unless you needed to lighten or darken it for some reason.

@ugabugabooooo

Because the rest of my hair gets too light in color, even though I'm careful to keep it from fading too much.

Brunette shades look the best when they have a deep richness to them.

Plus, as I've mentioned, I can't afford the salon on a consistent basis.

Hair grows and fades with time, which is why even "permanent" hair color isn't actually permanent.