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Thoughts on Sonya Dakar skin care?

sandylu — Sat, 07 May 2016 17:10:05 GMT

New skin care line offered on the other shopping channel. Sounds very interesting and little similar to other ingredients. Any thoughts????

Thanks

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Shelbelle — Sat, 07 May 2016 17:16:25 GMT

Odd pricing. Some kits are in the $70 range and individual items are priced up to $175.00 each.

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SeaMaiden — Sat, 07 May 2016 17:18:08 GMT

For what it is it seems over priced.

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MarieIG — Sat, 07 May 2016 17:43:47 GMT

One of the nice things about Evine is that they list their ingrediants online, so that anyone who is interested is able to read them before buying.

The before and afters on skin tone were nice. I did not see much of a difference in the puffy eyes, but they used a model with serious puffs: not just the morning type.

The host mentioned something to the effect that she had been considering a procedure and how Sonya's products had helped her. I thought she said the same thing a few weeks ago about Skinn. I don't mind hosts using more than one line (I do) but . . .

The masks and peels looked interesting to me. I remember loving an Aloette (enzyme type gel) peel from way back when I could get it cheap on one of the Southern channels that no longer sells beauty.

The sizes were small, I have been buying a bit of skincare lately, so this is going to fall into the "I can't buy everything catagory".

I hope that anyone who purchases will review.

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Shelbelle — Sat, 07 May 2016 18:11:36 GMT

@MarieIG wrote:
One of the nice things about Evine is that they list their ingrediants online, so that anyone who is interested is able to read them before buying.

The before and afters on skin tone were nice. I did not see much of a difference in the puffy eyes, but they used a model with serious puffs: not just the morning type.

The host mentioned something to the effect that she had been considering a procedure and how Sonya's products had helped her. I thought she said the same thing a few weeks ago about Skinn. I don't mind hosts using more than one line (I do) but . . .

The masks and peels looked interesting to me. I remember loving an Aloette (enzyme type gel) peel from way back when I could get it cheap on one of the Southern channels that no longer sells beauty.

The sizes were small, I have been buying a bit of skincare lately, so this is going to fall into the "I can't buy everything catagory".

I hope that anyone who purchases will review.

I loved that Aloette Grapefruit Green Gel Enzyme Peel, in fact I think I still have one stashed away in my linen closet, it was sold on Shop At Home out of Nashville.

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Reba055 — Sat, 07 May 2016 19:17:58 GMT

All I know is she has an excellent reputation so I would expect it to be good.

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naturalfan — Sat, 07 May 2016 19:53:14 GMT

I tried a trial kit quite a number of years ago and I really liked the products. I believe she has revamped her line and these products are different than the ones I tried. I did order one of the kits from Evine and am looking forward to trying it.

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Irshgrl31201 — Sat, 07 May 2016 21:05:33 GMT

Just based on her professional reputation, I would not.

She is known for grossly overcharging people. I mean grossly. Her reviews are horrible both inside and outside the industry. I know people who have been charged for trying to change the date of the appt. They require CC info to book appt and when they called to change the appt they moved the appt date for the appt but also charged them a fee ($200) for missing the first appt and then the fee for the actual facial. They didn't notice until they got their CC statement later that month and were not told they would be charged for moving the appt. I could see if they did it last minute but this was done almst one month in advance. I have heard about countless people who booked an appt for a facial that cost a certain amount and then when they went to check out and pay, they tried to charge them well over the amount. Some over by almost $1500. When they refused the police were called but thankfully it went in their favor. I have heard this countless times, too many to think it was exception. Your staff doesn't behave like that if they know it isn't acceptable so it must be acceptable to her to run her business like that.

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Reba055 — Sun, 08 May 2016 00:56:12 GMT

@Irshgrl31201 wrote:
Just based on her professional reputation, I would not.

She is known for grossly overcharging people. I mean grossly. Her reviews are horrible both inside and outside the industry. I know people who have been charged for trying to change the date of the appt. They require CC info to book appt and when they called to change the appt they moved the appt date for the appt but also charged them a fee ($200) for missing the first appt and then the fee for the actual facial. They didn't notice until they got their CC statement later that month and were not told they would be charged for moving the appt. I could see if they did it last minute but this was done almst one month in advance. I have heard about countless people who booked an appt for a facial that cost a certain amount and then when they went to check out and pay, they tried to charge them well over the amount. Some over by almost $1500. When they refused the police were called but thankfully it went in their favor. I have heard this countless times, too many to think it was exception. Your staff doesn't behave like that if they know it isn't acceptable so it must be acceptable to her to run her business like that.

@Irshgrl31201 Wow. Didn't know all that. I've only heard raves about her.

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MarieIG — Sun, 08 May 2016 01:12:33 GMT

@Shelbelle wrote:
@MarieIG wrote:
One of the nice things about Evine is that they list their ingrediants online, so that anyone who is interested is able to read them before buying.

The before and afters on skin tone were nice. I did not see much of a difference in the puffy eyes, but they used a model with serious puffs: not just the morning type.

The host mentioned something to the effect that she had been considering a procedure and how Sonya's products had helped her. I thought she said the same thing a few weeks ago about Skinn. I don't mind hosts using more than one line (I do) but . . .

The masks and peels looked interesting to me. I remember loving an Aloette (enzyme type gel) peel from way back when I could get it cheap on one of the Southern channels that no longer sells beauty.

The sizes were small, I have been buying a bit of skincare lately, so this is going to fall into the "I can't buy everything catagory".

I hope that anyone who purchases will review.
I loved that Aloette Grapefruit Green Gel Enzyme Peel, in fact I think I still have one stashed away in my linen closet, it was sold on Shop At Home out of Nashville.

Yes @Shelbelle, that's the one! I used to love their specials when the sold two or three in a pack. (I also stashed them in the linen closet, lol.

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MarieIG — Sun, 08 May 2016 01:39:31 GMT

@Irshgrl31201 wrote:
Just based on her professional reputation, I would not.

She is known for grossly overcharging people. I mean grossly. Her reviews are horrible both inside and outside the industry. I know people who have been charged for trying to change the date of the appt. They require CC info to book appt and when they called to change the appt they moved the appt date for the appt but also charged them a fee ($200) for missing the first appt and then the fee for the actual facial. They didn't notice until they got their CC statement later that month and were not told they would be charged for moving the appt. I could see if they did it last minute but this was done almst one month in advance. I have heard about countless people who booked an appt for a facial that cost a certain amount and then when they went to check out and pay, they tried to charge them well over the amount. Some over by almost $1500. When they refused the police were called but thankfully it went in their favor. I have heard this countless times, too many to think it was exception. Your staff doesn't behave like that if they know it isn't acceptable so it must be acceptable to her to run her business like that.

@Irshgrl31201 Wow, that is very disappointing to hear. Edited to add: I did a google search for reviews on the spa (as opposed to the products). You weren't kidding.

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shoekitty — Sun, 08 May 2016 04:42:22 GMT

@Irshgrl31201

I have been to Sonya's salon and had a great experience. But I was also with someone they hold in high, high regard if you know what I mean.

In regards to the reviews , being fair, yes...they do charge and I think I know why. Her salon is held in high regard with the Hollywood poobahs. There is a lot of coverage now and then in local papers about the list of who is who, and by that alone people want to go there. Cancellations happens all the time because people who really can't afford it book, then get second thoughts and cancel last minute. Since they are booked solid, and many of the estheticians are sort of self employed (rent chairs) their policy is to charge for cancellations within 24 to 48 hours. Hey even my Doctor does that.

Irish I think as esthetician you should know how it is when you have bookings, and you have a waiting list , then someone calls and cancels last minute. This is for first bookings usually. They usually do not charge if you are a client (after initial visit) Because first bookings are famous for no shows in high end salons. Same for hair salons.

As for ther service, it is impecible, at least when I was there. The products? Okay. I stick to my Perricone! However, if people wonder when they watch the Golden Globes and Oscars how Rene Z, gweneth P and Jennifer get that shiny, glow....that is Sonya. However, I am sure many salons can do the same. As for the cost, it is par with Beverly Hills and the clientele they cater too and seek. Overpriced> Well IMO anything over 10 bucks for a facial is too much...I hate them! LOL!

Beverly Hills is a different world (but she may have a new salon elsewhere)+ Geesh, I paid 450 dollars once at Jose Eber's for my granddaughter. Her hair was waist length at the time. She had cut, low light, highlights and a style. Do you know those salons charge 60 bucks for a blow dry after they cut and tint? Then 50 for curls and an iron? Yikes,

So anyway, that is my two cents from my experience and from what I know from the salon gossip, LOL!

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shoekitty — Sun, 08 May 2016 04:50:24 GMT

@Irshgrl31201

I reread your post. I have never heard of charging for cancellation 30 days in advance. I don't believe it. I think I might call them Monday and ask. That is grossly unfair. I the OP should call and ask. I have never heard of this there or elsewhere except at a Salon with a repeat offender who was warned about changing the dates so often. They asked her to call closer to when she wanted to come in so she wouldn't have such a scheduling conflict. They told her if there was an opening they would accommodate her., but I think she had booked and cancelled several times at late notice.

Also, some of the top salons are so booked 6 weeks in advance, and have a waiting list, and a call list to get in. Seriously, I don't think they care if a disgruntled or scattered client rebooks. JMHO. It shouldn't be that way...but sad;y it is..

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Irshgrl31201 — Mon, 09 May 2016 17:49:35 GMT

@shoekitty wrote:
@Irshgrl31201

I have been to Sonya's salon and had a great experience. But I was also with someone they hold in high, high regard if you know what I mean.

In regards to the reviews , being fair, yes...they do charge and I think I know why. Her salon is held in high regard with the Hollywood poobahs. There is a lot of coverage now and then in local papers about the list of who is who, and by that alone people want to go there. Cancellations happens all the time because people who really can't afford it book, then get second thoughts and cancel last minute. Since they are booked solid, and many of the estheticians are sort of self employed (rent chairs) their policy is to charge for cancellations within 24 to 48 hours. Hey even my Doctor does that.

Irish I think as esthetician you should know how it is when you have bookings, and you have a waiting list , then someone calls and cancels last minute. This is for first bookings usually. They usually do not charge if you are a client (after initial visit) Because first bookings are famous for no shows in high end salons. Same for hair salons.

As for ther service, it is impecible, at least when I was there. The products? Okay. I stick to my Perricone! However, if people wonder when they watch the Golden Globes and Oscars how Rene Z, gweneth P and Jennifer get that shiny, glow....that is Sonya. However, I am sure many salons can do the same. As for the cost, it is par with Beverly Hills and the clientele they cater too and seek. Overpriced> Well IMO anything over 10 bucks for a facial is too much...I hate them! LOL!

Beverly Hills is a different world (but she may have a new salon elsewhere)+ Geesh, I paid 450 dollars once at Jose Eber's for my granddaughter. Her hair was waist length at the time. She had cut, low light, highlights and a style. Do you know those salons charge 60 bucks for a blow dry after they cut and tint? Then 50 for curls and an iron? Yikes,

So anyway, that is my two cents from my experience and from what I know from the salon gossip, LOL!

Hey @shoekitty, sorry it took me so long to answer.

I am usually not one to go by gossip about things like this because it is usually just that, gossip. However there does reach a level when you hear it so often, that you know where there is smoke, there is fire. Knowing people that experienced this as well, well I know it is true. Ive heard her celeb clients get the star treatment while others, not so much. That is also not unusual but I find it gross.

As for the cancellation that was charged, it wasn't even a cancellation, she moved the appt and she did it weeks before the appt, they were given plenty of time. In addition to being charge for both the "cancellation" and the actual facial, she wasn't even told that was happening. I have a big issue with that. I have no problem with a stylist or esthetician charging for a cancellation when no notice or very little notice is given, because I myself dislike that very much. I also have no issue with how much a stylist or esthetician charges as long as that charge is known prior to the appt. If someone wants to charge $5,000 for service that most would charge $500 for and they have people willing to pay that, God Bless them and good for them. That isn't my issue at all, my issue is changing that what was originally agreed upon. If you have someone who answers your phone and gives someone wrong info, that is the them and the salon, not the person making the appt. I am pretty positive anyone going to see her isn't thinking they are going to get out of there without dropping at least $1,000 not including products so I don't think anyone is going to make an issue over a couple hundred bucks. When the employee that gave the lady a quote admitted to that and giving her that number (amount of services) and that number STILL wasn't honored and they tried to charge more and called the police when she refused, well that is just wrong.

This is MY opinion of her and her business practices. i certainly wouldn't spend anything on any of her products knowing that. However, if you like her then you should continue to go to her. My opinion should not affect that at all.

Re: Thoughts on Sonya Dakar skin care?

Irshgrl31201 — Mon, 09 May 2016 17:50:40 GMT

@MarieIG wrote:
@Irshgrl31201 wrote:
Just based on her professional reputation, I would not.

She is known for grossly overcharging people. I mean grossly. Her reviews are horrible both inside and outside the industry. I know people who have been charged for trying to change the date of the appt. They require CC info to book appt and when they called to change the appt they moved the appt date for the appt but also charged them a fee ($200) for missing the first appt and then the fee for the actual facial. They didn't notice until they got their CC statement later that month and were not told they would be charged for moving the appt. I could see if they did it last minute but this was done almst one month in advance. I have heard about countless people who booked an appt for a facial that cost a certain amount and then when they went to check out and pay, they tried to charge them well over the amount. Some over by almost $1500. When they refused the police were called but thankfully it went in their favor. I have heard this countless times, too many to think it was exception. Your staff doesn't behave like that if they know it isn't acceptable so it must be acceptable to her to run her business like that.
@Irshgrl31201 Wow, that is very disappointing to hear. Edited to add: I did a google search for reviews on the spa (as opposed to the products). You weren't kidding.

@MarieIG where do you find the reviews for the spa? TIA!

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shoekitty — Mon, 09 May 2016 23:01:40 GMT

@Irshgrl31201

LOL!, I think you miss understood about the "salon gossip", I was talking about ME! The info on certain things I was posting is what I got from "salon gossip" as I call i, and I was passing it along. Hahaha. I was in the business long enough to know we all do it, as it is our way of learning. How else would we know what other salons are doing, that's what I say!. I don't mean the type of gossip that is cruel and such, but just info. We all have different experiences. Some things should be passed along. I live in NoCal but have family in the film business, and I also go to SoCal every other month. I also taught back in the day, and I worked with Jose', and a few others at shows. If someone wanted info on Sonya's, Christophe's, Jose's, Anastasias I would tell them what I know from my experience and my family and friends. I think we all would pass what we know along. I also know, some salons treat me well, because they know me. But there have been times when I saw others being treated not well, and I can see where some opinions come from. Had I not seen it first hand, I had might not have believed it.

I went to Sonya's a year and a half ago, as a guest of of someone they know quite well. I paid 250 for what I had done. I thought that was a lot, but I was "informed by my friend" it was practically free, LOL! What do I know. I did get her moisturizer, which I loved...but never bought again. I will tell you right off, I hate facials, I hate being pampered like that. But I wasn't tortured too much, as I was drinking in what stylists, estheticians were doing. I am old school , as I am 68 and been out of the business for 25 years, so I love to see what is going on, and I pick up new innovations, Not that I would use them, I just want to know.LOL! The results were good at sonya's, but I am sure I could get the same thing at another place. for less too!

There is this guy in BH, I forgot his name (he goes by one name like cher) begins with a" D" I think, that is one of the best, or so I am told. Damian?, David? darn, I forgot..But his prices are reasonable I am told over and over. But who knows, next year someone else will be the darling of the business!

I would never go back to Sonya's, as I will tell you frankly, I would rather spend that kind of money on a handbag or Restylane or Juvaderm!. Just me. Also, I am not in the league of most of the clients, nor would I pretend to be at that price. I do know you can get in and out of there with a facial for 200 bucks or less...just say no to products. LOL!

Shoe

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Irshgrl31201 — Mon, 09 May 2016 23:10:25 GMT

@shoekitty wrote:
@Irshgrl31201

LOL!, I think you miss understood about the "salon gossip", I was talking about ME! The info on certain things I was posting is what I got from "salon gossip" as I call i, and I was passing it along. Hahaha. I was in the business long enough to know we all do it, as it is our way of learning. How else would we know what other salons are doing, that's what I say!. I don't mean the type of gossip that is cruel and such, but just info. We all have different experiences. Some things should be passed along. I live in NoCal but have family in the film business, and I also go to SoCal every other month. I also taught back in the day, and I worked with Jose', and a few others at shows. If someone wanted info on Sonya's, Christophe's, Jose's, Anastasias I would tell them what I know from my experience and my family and friends. I think we all would pass what we know along. I also know, some salons treat me well, because they know me. But there have been times when I saw others being treated not well, and I can see where some opinions come from. Had I not seen it first hand, I had might not have believed it.

I went to Sonya's a year and a half ago, as a guest of of someone they know quite well. I paid 250 for what I had done. I thought that was a lot, but I was "informed by my friend" it was practically free, LOL! What do I know. I did get her moisturizer, which I loved...but never bought again. I will tell you right off, I hate facials, I hate being pampered like that. But I wasn't tortured too much, as I was drinking in what stylists, estheticians were doing. I am old school , as I am 68 and been out of the business for 25 years, so I love to see what is going on, and I pick up new innovations, Not that I would use them, I just want to know.LOL! The results were good at sonya's, but I am sure I could get the same thing at another place. for less too!
There is this guy in BH, I forgot his name (he goes by one name like cher) begins with a" D" I think, that is one of the best, or so I am told. Damian?, David? darn, I forgot..But his prices are reasonable I am told over and over. But who knows, next year someone else will be the darling of the business!

I would never go back to Sonya's, as I will tell you frankly, I would rather spend that kind of money on a handbag or Restylane or Juvaderm!. Just me. Also, I am not in the league of most of the clients, nor would I pretend to be at that price. I do know you can get in and out of there with a facial for 200 bucks or less...just say no to products. LOL!

Shoe

Your friend was right, that was practically free. That is a good price for even where I live!!! I think you are the only other girl I have ever met who hates to be pampered. I absolutely hate even getting a pedicure. Haha!! I can't stand any of that which is so weird because most girls love that. I got a bunch of certificates for a massages and I gave them away!!! I wouldn't even do that!

Re: Thoughts on Sonya Dakar skin care?

MarieIG — Tue, 10 May 2016 02:54:52 GMT

@Irshgrl31201 I think they delete links but if you google

"Sonya Dakar skin clinic reviews" and then go to Yelp.com you may find them. Some of them were like horror stories.