topic Re: Costly Foolishness in Beauty

Costly Foolishness

CoG — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:46:35 GMT

Did you buy the $40 lipstain from the prestigious cosmetics company because it is new, novel, chic, expensive? It comes in a fancy dispenser to make observers envious. Or did you, like me, remember that Mood Matchers come in various shades and cost $1.50 to this day? You can get a 10 piece set from Amazon, no S&H, no tax.

Did you buy the $498 moisturizer? Read the ingredients? Ever wonder how and why a manufacturer would give away a $498 cream? What happens in two years when the AD runs out? And did you notice that the lighting and shading were not quite the same in the before and after shots? The models still looked like their same old selves didn't they?

Were you tempted to buy the $250 LED flashlight that stimulates collagen production and eradicates your wrinkles?

If the worst wrinkles are caused by repeated facial expressions, smiles, smoking frowning, why, how on earth is more muscle in action (facial flex) going to eradicate anything undesirable? But , the whole premise of the electrical stimulators is to " work out " your face isn't it? If it costs a goodly amount we'll buy into the farce won't we. just in case?

So we see what we want to see, discarding reason when the goal is to achieve the perfection someone else has told us we need to be. wolves in sheep's clothing still smell like predators

Re: Costly Foolishness

santorini — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:59:05 GMT

Facial Flex is cheap ... and it works.

Re: Costly Foolishness

millieshops — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:02:18 GMT

True - but every one's definition of costly foolishness varies.

Re: Costly Foolishness

suzyQ3 — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:08:59 GMT

We're a consumer society. We sometimes want to believe that a product will live up to its claims -- and its price. We tend to rationalize our purchases.

Alert the media!

Re: Costly Foolishness

Q4u — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:16:08 GMT

Yes, I have thought about quite a lot of what you've posted and understand the dynamics regarding creams and lotions no matter the price, however..... the facial stimulators (electric impulses deep into the facial muscles) is actually based on a device used medic

It works! It's provided "exercise" to the facial muscles through electrical stimulation that will actually strengthen the muscles in the face. When that occurs, the muscle "lifts" and when it lifts it lifts the outer skin along with it! So yes, lines in the face are from repeated facial expressions however the strengthening and lifting of the muscle structure will also lift the outer skin along with it and with that comes the look of softening and lifting the wrinkles.

So yes.... it works and works very, very well if used consistently.

Re: Costly Foolishness

Q4u — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:21:31 GMT

Should read:

The muscle stimulation by electrical impulses was

actually developed by the medical community to help

those affected by strokes and lost the muscle use in their

facial muscles. This improvement in this category has been

nothing short of a miracle, however it is regulated by doctors.

The device sold for personal use is based on that device. I'm

sure it's less powerful but I can attest to it working, I own one and

use it. It's success is dependent on using it faithfully.....

Re: Costly Foolishness

QVCkitty1 — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:45:07 GMT

I wish my budget would allow me to try La Mer or one of the other pricey skin care lines. however, I use all different brands, even the samples that I get from shopping at Ulta or Sephora. It seems at least for me, that it is more important to do treatments regularly, than specific products. I do try to always have Philosophy Miracle Worker eye repair, I'm convinced that it makes a difference, who knows??

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GCR18 — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:56:31 GMT

I keep it simple. The pricey, trendy products don't lure me in.

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hoosieroriginal — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 21:58:00 GMT

There have been many studies that show drugstore products are as good or better than the high priced cosmetics and facial creams.

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gailcoco — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:46:54 GMT

If all the creams and potions really worked then their hawkers, such as Dr. Denese and Adrien Arpel, would not have had their faces lifted. So what does it matter if you use the $500 or $5.00 cream......it's still not going to

reverse or prevent time from marching on our faces.

Re: Costly Foolishness

Caaareful Shopper — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 23:17:01 GMT

I always shake my head at some of these $400 "must have" skin serums and other face-saving products. Breathlessly repeating the statement, "It does everything I've promise you!" Leaving off the rest of that sentence, "but of course it works exactly the same as the $19.95 cream you can get in your local drug store."

Re: Costly Foolishness

Tinkrbl44 — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 23:24:28 GMT

@gailcoco wrote:
If all the creams and potions really worked then their hawkers, such as Dr. Denese and Adrien Arpel, would not have had their faces lifted. So what does it matter if you use the $500 or $5.00 cream......it's still not going to
reverse or prevent time from marching on our faces.

@gailcoco

Sorry, but you're comparing apples and oranges here. It's one thing to use good skin care products to soften wrinkles, use SPF, lighten dark spots, etc and an entirely different thing to have a "lift".

There's no cream or potion that can do what a lift of any sort does. Further, having a face lift does not mean you don't need moisturizers and whatever else your skin needs. Two different categories entirely.

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Q4u — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:18:25 GMT

While I agree that it may be apples and oranges and that creams and serums can even out skin tone and moisturize deeply enough to soften wrinkles, etc... the Dr. Denese's, Adrien Arpels, that have cosmetic surgery in order to look younger never, ever disclose this fact while selling their skin serums and creams.

The natural implication is for the customer to look at the faces of these ladies and assume that if they use the products they too will turn back the hands of time in the same way and look just as good. Never in all the years I've watched (and used) most of these products has anyone who's had cosmetic surgery stopped to proclaim 1) that they've had plastic surgery, one I know of had denied it for years on another forum, or 2) that the difference between having cosmetic surgery and using topical products isn't in any way the same but would be happy to go into detail.

So.... imho.... it's intentional if only to imply to the customer that you too will look like me if you use my products. Boy would I have a ton of respect for these ladies if they took the time to say that they've had plastic surgery..... I mean, it's not like you can't tell anyway.....

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TY — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:21:26 GMT

@Tinkrbl44

Except that Dr Denese is selling a neck cream to supposedly improve the look of wrinkles on the neck. She's had a lower face lift in order to fix her own neckline and a year out or more from her procedure she looks good on TV now.

But a year ago in January when she was first on air after her procedures you could tell that she had a recent facelift as she wasn't totally healed and there were a lot of comments here about how different she looked. She does have a good plastic surgeon though, she doesn't look overdone.

Re: Costly Foolishness

Tinkrbl44 — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:25:05 GMT

@Q4u

I didn't hear it personally, but I read comments on here by others that Dr Denese had, in fact, talked about her plastic surgery.

Maybe someone else who saw that can comment here?

Re: Costly Foolishness

River Song — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:33:11 GMT

One woman's costly foolishness is another woman's miracle!

Some like Chevy's and others like Fords.

Judge not...

Re: Costly Foolishness

TY — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:36:27 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Q4u

I didn't hear it personally, but I read comments on here by others that Dr Denese had, in fact, talked about her plastic surgery.

Maybe someone else who saw that can comment here?

@Tinkrbl44

I believe she commented about having her eyes done on facebook more than a year ago due to all the comments about her changed looks but I don't think she commented about having anything else done even though it was obvious that she had more than just an eyelid lift.

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Snowpuppy — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:48:43 GMT

Sorry, didn't buy a thing. Not even Dr.Denese. Want TF or YSL lipstick, just haven't parted with the cash.

I did like a few of Adrienne's products 15+ yrs ago but I moved on and just stopped watching and being shrieked at.

Currently enjoying my return to EL skincare. When I try something high end like Chanel or Armani, I hit the bay for a travel/sample size.

Spending $10-20 bucks doesn't give me heartburn when it's a meh.

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Q4u — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:59:59 GMT

@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Q4u

I didn't hear it personally, but I read comments on here by others that Dr Denese had, in fact, talked about her plastic surgery.

Maybe someone else who saw that can comment here?

Yes... that was after all the hullabaloo regarding (I believe) her latest and most obvious cosmetic surgery (a while ago now). It was being talked about all over the place. She has always denied it or ignored it which is ridiculous imho because it has always been so obvious. Anyway, I'm very aware of her "confession" or owning up to it.... (I saw it) she more or less had to. There was also a lot of chatter here about it.

Re: Costly Foolishness

Q4u — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 01:04:24 GMT

@TY wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Q4u

I didn't hear it personally, but I read comments on here by others that Dr Denese had, in fact, talked about her plastic surgery.

Maybe someone else who saw that can comment here?
@Tinkrbl44
I believe she commented about having her eyes done on facebook more than a year ago due to all the comments about her changed looks but I don't think she commented about having anything else done even though it was obvious that she had more than just an eyelid lift.

Yes, I believe she had more than her eyes done. She came on the air with virtually no labial folds. One was more distinctive than the other when I looked at her. I realize that this is her personal business BUT she also sells cosmetics with the implication that her beauty is due to using her line. Not owning up to having cosmetic surgery for years.... then only admitting to a small portion of it when people started talking about it and I lost respect for her. Again, why fib about cosmetic surgery?? Most people can tell anyway.....