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☆☆Talc???!!!☆☆☆

CherryHugs — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:37:45 GMT

I just noticed talc is in Signature Club A product Hair Fill & Color!!! I have read talc is unsafe! I dont even want to use mine! What are your thoughts?!??

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Harpa — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:46:10 GMT

You have to look up the specific cases where people have perished from using talc.

To me, this is cry wolf that makes one afraid of their own shadow.

Of course, one must be sensible in using things, especially in spray cans. So, I don't know if the product you referenced is an aerosol or not.

My DM has been using talc forever and she is a physically healthy 92!

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Mrsq2022 — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:33:32 GMT

The only thing I've read about talc is that using baby powder in the genital area increases the chance of ovarian cancer. I think that this is pretty widely accepted at this point. Breathing in any fine powder if not a good practice, but I don't believe there has been any reported cases of lung cancer correlated to talc (other than maybe talc miners that are exposed all day long). So that connection is undetermined.

I'd personally use the powder and might not repurchase if there was a ton of flyaway powder. I'm not buying face powders with talc personally because I don't want to risk it, but I'm not throwing away the ones I own. Just using them up and not repurchasing.

Edited to add that I also do not prefer the look of talc in face powder....contributing to my decision not to repurchase....

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suzyQ3 — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:19:01 GMT

As mentioned, the only possible concern is powder used in the genital area. Other than that, it is perfectly harmless and, IMO, is a decent ingredient.

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CherryHugs — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:00:17 GMT

Thank you for your replies!! It makes sense and guess it will be ok to keep using the product!!!

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Shelbelle — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:13:02 GMT

Agree, unsafe in genital area, but that is all.

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sunshine45 — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:16:43 GMT

perlier makes talcs.....love the scents and like to use it in my shoes or on my feet. i think a few of my face powders have talc in them.

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JeanLouiseFinch — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:51:21 GMT

As a skincare ingredient, talc can be irritiating to some people. From what I've read, it's usually the talc in the Tatcha exfoliating powder that causes some to have a bad reaction. If you don't have sensitive skin to begin with, I wouldn't worry about the hair powder. Using a scented talc after bathing is a nice treat, just be careful to avoid "key places".

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SparklyTiara — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:11:42 GMT

As JeanLouseFinch said, it can be irritating to some skin types (sensitive or acne prone, for example). There's also the possibility of asbestos or asbestiform fibers, which are extremely toxic. Here's what it says about talc on the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep website:

"Talc is a powdered native, hydrous magnesium silicate sometimes containing a small portion of aluminum silicate. Talc can be contaminated with asbestos fibers, posing risks for respiratory toxicity and cancer. Studies by the National Toxicology Panel demonstrated that cosmetic-grade talc free of asbestos is a form of magnesium silicate that also can be toxic and carcinogenic."

Here's the link to the website if you want to read more: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706427/TALC/#

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suzyQ3 — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:48:35 GMT

@SparklyTiara wrote:
As JeanLouseFinch said, it can be irritating to some skin types (sensitive or acne prone, for example). There's also the possibility of asbestos or asbestiform fibers, which are extremely toxic. Here's what it says about talc on the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep website:

"Talc is a powdered native, hydrous magnesium silicate sometimes containing a small portion of aluminum silicate. Talc can be contaminated with asbestos fibers, posing risks for respiratory toxicity and cancer. Studies by the National Toxicology Panel demonstrated that cosmetic-grade talc free of asbestos is a form of magnesium silicate that also can be toxic and carcinogenic."

Here's the link to the website if you want to read more: http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/ingredient/706427/TALC/#

Talc is a natural ingredient and, yes, can be contaminated with asbestos. But cosmetic talc products have been free of asbestos since the 1970s.

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Sooner — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:53:02 GMT

I simply won't use talc. It is natural, but LOTS of natural things can cause cancer. To me, it is just best to stay from it alltogether--since you can find better substitutes.

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suzyQ3 — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:10:38 GMT

Here's the most recent research I could find on talc and cancer:

Some people are concerned that using talcum powder on the genital area could increase the risk of ovarian cancer.

Scientists are trying to see if this is the case, but for now the evidence is still uncertain. However, even if there is a risk it is likely to be fairly small.

What does the evidence say?

Cosmetic body and talcum powders often contain a mineral compound called talc. Several studies have looked at talcum powder use and ovarian cancer. While on the whole studies have seen a modest increase in the risk of ovarian cancer in women who use talc on their genitals, the evidence isn’t completely clear. So we can’t be sure whether or not talc itself could cause ovarian cancer.

Stronger studies don’t find a link:

The majority of studies looking at talc and cancer relied on people remembering things they did a long time ago. These are called ’case-control studies’ , and many of them have found a link between talc and ovarian cancer.

But these studies also have important weaknesses. People may not accurately remember how much talc they used in the past, and women with ovarian cancer may be more likely to remember using talc than women who don’t have cancer. This might skew the results.

Scientists can avoid these problems with studies that follow healthy women to see if those who use talc go on to develop ovarian cancer in the future. These are called ‘cohort studies’ and they are generally thought to be a better way of finding out whether something affects the risk of cancer. So far, there has only been one cohort study looking at talc and ovarian cancer – and it didn’t find a link with ovarian cancers overall.

The risk of ovarian cancer doesn’t increase when women use more talc:

If something truly causes cancer, you would expect people who are exposed to more of that thing to have a higher risk. For example, the more you smoke, the higher your risk of lung cancer. But the majority of the studies have not found a similar relationship for talc use and ovarian cancer.

Using diaphragms (contraceptive caps) or condoms dusted with talc does not increase the risk of ovarian cancer:

Talc from these contraceptives will be placed closer to a woman’s ovaries during sex than it would if simply applied to the genital area. So the ovaries would be exposed to a higher concentration of talc. But studies haven’t found an increased risk of ovarian cancer in women who used talc on diaphragms.

Direct application of talcum powder to the lungs does not cause cancer:

Talc is used in a medical technique called pleurodesis that can help relieve symptoms of some lung problems. Doctors apply sterile talc directly to the lining of the lungs in this technique. And there is no evidence that this direct application of talc to the body causes cancer.

How could talcum powder cause cancer?:

Before the 1970s, talcum powder was often contaminated with asbestos fibres which are known to cause cancer. But since then, all home products containing talcum powder are legally obliged to be asbestos-free.

Some scientists have suggested that talc particles could travel to the ovaries, irritate them and cause inflammation. Low-level, long-term inflammation may increase the risk of some types of cancer. But so far, it doesn’t look like using anti-inflammatory drugs can reduce the risk of ovarian cancer. And the evidence around whether talc could travel in this way is weak.

How big would any actual risk be for women who use talc?

The ovarian cancer charity Ovacome have produced an excellent factsheet. They make a really important point that puts any potential risks from talc into perspective:

The evidence for a link is weak, but even if talc does increase the risk of ovarian cancer studies suggest it would be by around a third. This is a modest increase in risk and ovarian cancer is a relatively rare disease. Increasing a small risk by a third still gives a small risk.

What else affects the risk of ovarian cancer?

As with most cancers, the risk of ovarian cancer increases with age. And women with a family history of breast or ovarian cancer may also be more likely to develop ovarian cancer. If you think you might have a family history of cancer, it’s a good idea to talk to your GP.

Things to do with childbearing and hormones are believed to play a role in ovarian cancer. Risk of ovarian cancer is lower the more children a woman has. And taking hormonal medications, such as the contraceptive Pill or Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), can also affect the risk.

Smoking also affects the risk of ovarian cancer, and unlike age or family history, it is something we can control. A Cancer Research UK study has estimated that each year around 200 UK cases of ovarian cancer could be prevented by not smoking. For help in quitting, visit NHS Smokefree (link is external) or speak to your doctor or pharmacist.

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/cancer-controversies/cosmetics-and-toiletries#Cosmetics2

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SeaGal — Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:44:13 GMT

@CherryHugs wrote:
I just noticed talc is in Signature Club A product Hair Fill & Color!!! I have read talc is unsafe! I dont even want to use mine! What are your thoughts?!??

My thoughts are that if there are ingrediants you dont like to use you should read them on the products you plan on trying. Not trying to be snarky but I would think talc is probably a common ingrediant in hair filler type products.

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Teacups — Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:04:51 GMT

I had this disease but I am good now...but I have a Dr. who people all over the country go to(didn't know that at the time but I am lucky)

That is the first thing they asked me...so I would not have it touch me. Where there is smoke there is fire usually.