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Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

CritterKeeper — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:07:15 GMT

Just wondering why all of the wen CC use menthol (excluding kids wen). Is is something that helps clean the hair/scalp? I REALLY need a wen that doesn't have menthol, but the kids scents are appealing to me.

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

Hilary77 — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:14:00 GMT

Menthol stimulates the scalp for healthy hair growth.

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Hilary77 — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:15:10 GMT

The kid formulas clean really well. I use them from time to time.

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CritterKeeper — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:15:12 GMT

Sorry, Not appealing to me

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

CritterKeeper — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:16:31 GMT

On 3/1/2015 Hilary77 said: Menthol stimulates the scalp for healthy hair growth.

Thanks....I always wondered that.

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

Hilary77 — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:18:45 GMT

On 3/1/2015 wendiC said:
On 3/1/2015 Hilary77 said: Menthol stimulates the scalp for healthy hair growth.

Thanks....I always wondered that.

You're welcome

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

HappyDaze — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:33:22 GMT

No idea but I wish he wouldn't.

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

suzyQ3 — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 19:49:25 GMT

I can't find any credible source to support the idea that menthol promotes hair growth. I do know that it is a strong irritant.

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

Lindy Lou — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 19:57:37 GMT

Me, too, as it is a known irritant. It is derived from peppermint, which can also be irritating when applied topically. The cooling, tingling sensation is not necessarily a good thing, but it is obviously used a lot, especially in lip plumpers. I really like my WEN, but no menthol would take it to an even greater level, as I do "feel" the menthol on my scalp.

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aprimo — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 20:53:46 GMT

I think a non-menthol option would be a good idea. Of course, there are a lot of variations that people seem to want and Chaz likely can't make all of them--at least not as a permanent part of the line. Chaz said something during his last Q visit about not intending to have a huge line constantly available, which is why the seasonals which may or may not return was the compromise he chose to make.

It does seem that some formulas have more menthol than others. I think BGT and WWC feel like they have less menthol than the core formulas.

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

Harpa — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:39:28 GMT

I don't know why Chaz uses menthol. I think you should write and ask him.

Traditionally, it is an antiseptic (like other natural things) and gives a warming/cooling effect. (Does he also use it in his Tea Tree formula? I don't know, but if so, why would he put two strong essential oils together?)

But again, I don't know what his reasoning is for using it in his core formula CCs. I never read that it is known as a hair growth stimulant.

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

Kathlen — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 22:00:02 GMT

I don't use WEN, but I have used some hair products with menthol (with not-so-good-results).

I suspect that it's to give the illusion of a clean tingly scalp ... sort of like a breath mind for your hair. Natural body oils (e.g. sebum - google "sebum scalp") can be really stinky and I don't know that WEN actually removes all of them. Hence the menthol and various scents.

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wagirl — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 22:05:01 GMT

You know, I finally caved in and started using Wen and while I have no adverse reactions to menthol or citrus, I've been reading ALOT of complaints about hair loss and even about a class action lawsuit to that fact. I've ditched the Wen until things settle down. I'm a little angry at myself for giving in to the hype of WEN. The guy has always creeped me out and I never watch his shows. Stoopid me!!!!

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

SquishyMommy1 — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 22:14:23 GMT

I really wish they made a non menthol version besides the kids. I love the kids scents and use them occasionally...but Im not super interested in smelling like a fruit bowel all the time. For me the menthol is stronger in some scents and makes me not like them. Like the FTP...all I can smell is menthol in that one.

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

sidsmom — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 22:21:32 GMT

On 3/1/2015 Hilary77 said: Menthol stimulates the scalp for healthy hair growth.

I question the effectiveness of that. It's only on your scalp at the very most...5 minutes, then it's washed off. Growth inhibitors are on the inside...not topically. Diet, hormones, age causes hair growth to slow. Shampoo has nothing to do w/ growing hair faster.

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

DCAnnie2004 — Sun, 01 Mar 2015 22:24:53 GMT

From Paula's Choice Ingredient Dictionary: Derived from peppermint; menthol can have the same irritating effect as peppermint on skin (Sources: Postgraduate Medicine, July 2013, pages 7-18; Archives of Dermatologic Research, May 1996, pages 245–248; and Somatosensory and Motor Research, Volume 9, Issue 3, 1992, pages 235-244). Despite its documented ability to irritate skin, menthol is used in a surprisingly large number of products, particularly those aimed at helping oily or acne-prone skin. Unfortunately, the cooling, refreshing sensation menthol causes is direct evidence your skin is being irritated, not soothed. See counter-irritant , peppermint

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okiebug — Mon, 02 Mar 2015 02:52:49 GMT

n/m

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

suzyQ3 — Mon, 02 Mar 2015 03:02:00 GMT

On 3/1/2015 okiebug said:
On 3/1/2015 Kathleen said:
I don't use WEN, but I have used some hair products with menthol (with not-so-good-results).

I suspect that it's to give the illusion of a clean tingly scalp ... sort of like a breath mind for your hair. Natural body oils (e.g. sebum - google "sebum scalp") can be really stinky and I don't know that WEN actually removes all of them. Hence the menthol and various scents.

I've used WEN for years and I DO KNOW that it actually removes the oil from my scalp. It has normalized my extremely oily scalp to normal. The scents are essential oils and have been used for beauty/medicinal purposes for hundreds of years.

You seem to be one that doesn't follow the crowd, so this comment surprises me.

From Beautypedia:

counter-irritant

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Ingredients such as menthol, peppermint, camphor, and mint are counter-irritants (Sources: Archives of Dermatologic Research, May 1996, pages 245–248; and Code of Federal Regulations Title 21—Food and Drugs, revised April 1, 2001, CITE: 21CFR310.545, www.fda.gov). Counter-irritants are used to induce local inflammation for the purpose of relieving inflammation in deeper or adjacent tissues. In other words, they substitute one kind of inflammation for another, which is never good for skin. Irritation or inflammation, no matter what causes it or how it happens, impairs the skin’s immune and healing response (Source: Skin Pharmacology and Applied Skin Physiology, November–December 2000, pages 358–371). And although your skin may not show it or doesn’t react in an irritated fashion, if you apply irritants to your skin the damage is still taking place and is ongoing, so it adds up over time (Source: Skin Research and Technology, November 2001, pages 227–237).

From futurederm.com:

Menthol

Menthol, naturally derived from peppermint, is part of the alcohol family and can be drying to skin. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Menthol, made synthetically or derived from peppermint oil, is commonly used as a pain reliever, but that doesn’t mean it won’t irritate skin. It’s a chemical penetration enhancer, which means that it helps other ingredients absorb into the skin. It does this by causing vasodillation in the area it’s applied to and thus reducing skin barrier function (Skin Pharmacology and Physiology). This ability might be, in part, responsible for why menthol can be a skin irritant. In studies using patch tests, it’s been shown to cause contact dermatitis (Contact Dermatitis, Contact

Re: Just curious...why does WEN use menthol?

shoekitty — Mon, 02 Mar 2015 03:18:21 GMT

Many reasons as posters have stated. Menthol acts a fungicide, it alleviates hair mites, makes the hair shine and adds fullness. It also is good to repair hair and prevent hair loss.

Hair mites are more common than one thinks, not lice...mites!! You get them from pillows, and the body somehow has them. They are so minute you would need a telescope to see them. They naturally feed on the dead skin cells. Menthol cleans them out, and the dead skin cells.

I personally cannot stand the smell of menthol or tea tree. It nauseates me to no end . It is a phobia, LOL! I do use WEN, like Mango coconut, to fig or Pom. Ones where I cannot smell the stuff.

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Feldspar — Mon, 02 Mar 2015 05:39:28 GMT

Pureology uses menthol, too. I think it feels soothing on an itchy scalp, but I really dislike the smell of it.