topic Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse in Beauty

WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

CoastalGal — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:59:46 GMT

Please tell me what the difference is with the rice based vs his reg cleansing conditioners.

thanks!

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

simollie — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:48:59 GMT

The rice based cc don't contain any wheat or soy proteins and I believe they are nut free as well. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! I watched Sunday evening and he commented that the entire purpose of the rice based formula's was originally for the kids line but so many were requesting an ""adult"" version that he created the BGT and now we have the MIF.

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sonechko — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:52:56 GMT

More detailed answers I am sure will follow, but here is my short version - There are wheat based, Soy based and Rice based Wen CCs.

My understanding was, few people MAY be allergic to one or the other.

Thats all I remember based on what I've read somewhere.

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

CoastalGal — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:54:06 GMT

So performance wise it should be the same as reg cond cleansers?

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HappyDaze — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:32:00 GMT

On 2/24/2015 simollie said:
The rice based cc don't contain any wheat or soy proteins and I believe they are nut free as well. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! I watched Sunday evening and he commented that the entire purpose of the rice based formula's was originally for the kids line but so many were requesting an "adult" version that he created the BGT and now we have the MIF.

The thing is, most that requested an "adult" version of the kids wen is because they didn't want the menthol but I believe the new rice ones still contain menthol.

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

simollie — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:34:04 GMT

On 2/24/2015 HappyDaze said:
On 2/24/2015 simollie said:
The rice based cc don't contain any wheat or soy proteins and I believe they are nut free as well. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! I watched Sunday evening and he commented that the entire purpose of the rice based formula's was originally for the kids line but so many were requesting an "adult" version that he created the BGT and now we have the MIF.

The thing is, most that requested an "adult" version of the kids wen is because they didn't want the menthol but I believe the new rice ones still contain menthol.

yep...they do. I know a lot were disappointed with this, I however love the menthol. BGT is one of my favorites so I can't wait to see what the MIF does for me!

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

simollie — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:36:20 GMT

On 2/24/2015 NCshoppergal said:
So performance wise it should be the same as reg cond cleansers?

pretty much yes. some people, including myself find them to be a little more drying than the other core cleansers, but others don't. It's all just dependent on what your hair needs are. I absolutely love the BGT even though its slightly drying I don't use it every day or I'll mix it with 613. It's my fav of the cores. Can't wait to try the new one!

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Susan25 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:40:06 GMT

On 2/24/2015 simollie said:
On 2/24/2015 NCshoppergal said:
So performance wise it should be the same as reg cond cleansers?

pretty much yes. some people, including myself find them to be a little more drying than the other core cleansers, but others don't. It's all just dependent on what your hair needs are. I absolutely love the BGT even though its slightly drying I don't use it every day or I'll mix it with 613. It's my fav of the cores. Can't wait to try the new one!

BGT is also my favorite of the core formulas and I also sometimes find it a bit drying but still buy it since I love the scent. I have to make sure that I am using one of the seasonals as my 2nd cleanse when I use BGT and I usually have good results.

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quadmimi — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:42:42 GMT

I find the Seasonal's the most moisture for my hair, but I was wondering if the MIF might have more moisture than the reg BGT, since the MIF has honey in it...(although not the honey in SHP,)...I got it right "Happydaze"...

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

HappyDaze — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:43:35 GMT

On 2/24/2015 quadmimi said:
I find the Seasonal's the most moisture for my hair, but I was wondering if the MIF might have more moisture than the reg BGT, since the MIF has honey in it...(although not the honey in SHP,)...I got it right "Happydaze"...

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

Susan25 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:46:10 GMT

On 2/24/2015 quadmimi said:
I find the Seasonal's the most moisture for my hair, but I was wondering if the MIF might have more moisture than the reg BGT, since the MIF has honey in it...(although not the honey in SHP,)...I got it right "Happydaze"...

I would imagine that MIF would be very moisturizing since the original Fig core formula is the most moisturizing of the core formulas.

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RespectLife — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:46:53 GMT

On 2/24/2015 NCshoppergal said:
So performance wise it should be the same as reg cond cleansers?

I can only answer for myself...but no, performance wise...they have not been the same as the wheat or soy based cleansers!

Now this is me only...I am a wheat girl...almost all wheat based formulas work just about (although not EXACTLY the same) on me. My long, color treated, dryish hair LOVES wheat! Esp. TT and Fig

Soy based (most seasonals and a few core) are less moisturizing for me and I usually must mix them with the fig or use them as my second cleanse only.

The new rice based (BGT, WEN MEN) and 613.....really drying on my hair. I can only use BGT a tiny bit mixed in with something else...and can barely use 613 CC at all. I would not purchase either again. Just using them up! I didn't like the outcome of my hair at all using rice based....again...that is just my head!! LOL

I wish it was simpler to compare....but I find the 3 categories performances totally different! Family members also find the performance different between formulas...even though some of them prefer soy!

Sad to say...I will be VERY hesitant to try anything new. If Q isn't going to refund my original shipping...and I have NO idea how the formula will be on my hair...I am not going to chance losing both original shipping and return shipping.

I have many favorite WENS and will stick w/ them! Best of luck to you!

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

Susan25 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:50:24 GMT

I still haven't purchased any of the Wen's kids. I have read a lot of reviews about the Wen's kids though and still plan on trying this formula soon. The next time a OTO is offered in the Wen's kids would be a good time to try this.

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

HappyDaze — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:52:10 GMT

On 2/24/2015 RespectLife said:
On 2/24/2015 NCshoppergal said:
So performance wise it should be the same as reg cond cleansers?

I can only answer for myself...but no, performance wise...they have not been the same as the wheat or soy based cleansers!

Now this is me only...I am a wheat girl...almost all wheat based formulas work just about (although not EXACTLY the same) on me. My long, color treated, dryish hair LOVES wheat! Esp. TT and Fig

Soy based (most seasonals and a few core) are less moisturizing for me and I usually must mix them with the fig or use them as my second cleanse only.

The new rice based (BGT, WEN MEN) and 613.....really drying on my hair. I can only use BGT a tiny bit mixed in with something else...and can barely use 613 CC at all. I would not purchase either again. Just using them up! I didn't like the outcome of my hair at all using rice based....again...that is just my head!! LOL

I wish it was simpler to compare....but I find the 3 categories performances totally different! Family members also find the performance different between formulas...even though some of them prefer soy!

Sad to say...I will be VERY hesitant to try anything new. If Q isn't going to refund my original shipping...and I have NO idea how the formula will be on my hair...I am not going to chance losing both original shipping and return shipping.

I have many favorite WENS and will stick w/ them! Best of luck to you!

Excellent post and I agree with a lot of your assessments. I will be even less inclined to try new formulas due to the shipping change as well- if I am even the least bit hesitant based on the ingredients (like I am with the new summer seasonal), I will just pass.

Re: WEN by Chaz Dean Rice Based Cleanse

Lindy Lou — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:00:32 GMT

Have been wondering what the summer seasonal will be. I think I read about it once, but have forgotten what was said. HappyDaze, what is it that seems questionable to you? Something drying?

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Susan25 — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:09:02 GMT

Copied this from another thread:

Yes, it was already announced. Although, I am not sure that I remember it correctly, a tart fruit and verbena is what I remember. Maybe godfreak will post it again. She hasn't been posting new items recently.

Although, I really want to order a large quantity of summer honey peach so I am not sure how much of any other summer seasonal I would order.

For anyone that is curious about the summer seasonal.

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HappyDaze — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:11:09 GMT

On 2/24/2015 Lindy Lou said: Have been wondering what the summer seasonal will be. I think I read about it once, but have forgotten what was said. HappyDaze, what is it that seems questionable to you? Something drying?

Oh I haven't seen the ingredients for the new one but I don't generally care for that scent and I am assuming it has citrus extracts since the name contains one and my hair isn't fond of too much citrus.

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Drythe — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:45:12 GMT

The significant difference I experience so far is that the Rice Based seems a tad bit easier to rinse out. However, I'm not bothered by rice, soy, gluten, nuts, or menthol so those differences are lost on me.

Current faves - TT, 613,BGT & SHP

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aprimo — Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:56:25 GMT

Last time I washed, I used BGT for the first cleanse and 613 for the second cleanse. It was the first time I had not used any wheat-based CC for either cleanse and I did notice much less hair fallout than I typically have. But that could be coincidental, since my doctor changed my meds recently. I will have to keep experimenting and see if I spot any patterns. I love the scent of BGT but I think I could use a bit more moisture, so I am going to try MIF.

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RiosMom — Wed, 25 Feb 2015 02:34:35 GMT

Rice-based ones are THE BEST for shine, too!