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Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:18:10 GMT

My hair has been frizzy I don't know what to do anymore because my favorite product that define my curls perfectly and still left it touchable has been discontinued. Everything o have tried has either been drying or not enough hold. I wash whichever formula I feel like using but will include one or two of the following: fig, BGT, TT, 613, or a seasonal. I do remoist once a week and a quarter size as leave in and two pumps of CC as leave in. Also some oil (wen or coconut oil) and a pump and a half 613 SC.Then I would add the Redken Fresh Curls Definer which was a thick leave in conditioner that would perfectly define my ringlets and left it super touchable. I also have a gel that I use once in a while that hold my curls very well but I don't like to use it unless I have an event to go to and it's humid out because my hair feels dry when I rinse it out. I need a product that is gong to hold my curls without crunchiness and that won't dry it out. Any suggestions? I've had no luck with the VTS and the mouse is sort of unpredictable to me.. This is what my hair looks like we just my wen leave in: http://www.britishcurlies.co.uk/images/uploads/NATHALIE_EMMANUEL.jpg http://www.voxteencommunications.org/Pics/Channels/MyStory/BTS2011_hairprofile_laetitia.jpg Nothing is wrong with that look, that's how my hair looks most days but for special events, date nights, ect this is what my hair generally looks like and what I am looking to accomplish again: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/dc/40/49/dc404962bbe681adbd2f66a0da373296.jpg http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=40711312

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:20:05 GMT

Oops idk all the liks got mashed together..sorry! I am going to bump and old thread of my hair on good hair days

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

I am still oxox — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:26:22 GMT

Have you had you hair cut at a salon that specializes in curly hair, Devashan and Quidad come to mind.

They will teach you how to handle your hair and what to do and more importantly what not to do

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

Ms X — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:32:47 GMT

Fluffy Bear: I saw your picture on the thread you bumped, and your hair is absolutely gorgeous. I really think you are obsessing way, way too much about your hair. My hair is a lot like yours, although the ringlets are about half as tight. I can't imagine doing all that with it! I do use coconut oil and MOA conditioner that I get on sale. I will admit that sometimes it is frizzy and too dry, but I just don't have time to fuss with it many days.

How often do you wash it? I wonder whether all this fussing with your hair is actually drying it out. I wear my hair in layers because it is easier to comb and care for that way.

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

RyBelle — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:36:43 GMT

Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

HonnyBrown — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:43:20 GMT

You have frizz, but how do your curls feel? What happens when you squeeze one? Pull one?

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:54:50 GMT

On 9/20/2014 I am still oxox said:
Have you had you hair cut at a salon that specializes in curly hair, Devashan and Quidad come to mind.

They will teach you how to handle your hair and what to do and more importantly what not to do

I have a deva cut.. I love it. My cut is great. Their products make my hair feel dry though :/

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:56:05 GMT

On 9/20/2014 Ms X said:
Fluffy Bear: I saw your picture on the thread you bumped, and your hair is absolutely gorgeous. I really think you are obsessing way, way too much about your hair. My hair is a lot like yours, although the ringlets are about half as tight. I can't imagine doing all that with it! I do use coconut oil and MOA conditioner that I get on sale. I will admit that sometimes it is frizzy and too dry, but I just don't have time to fuss with it many days.

How often do you wash it? I wonder whether all this fussing with your hair is actually drying it out. I wear my hair in layers because it is easier to comb and care for that way.

I've always had a love hate relationship with it. I love it when it looks perfect.. I hate it when it looks anything less than that. I wash 2-3 times a week,

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 02:57:31 GMT

On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

He's the redken was the one I used before. It was more of a leave in conditioner than a styling product. The full swirl was too waxy for me

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

RyBelle — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:01:50 GMT

On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

He's the redken was the one I used before. It was more of a leave in conditioner than a styling product. The full swirl was too waxy for me

I used Redken before Wen and I almost swore off the brand when they reformulated the original All Soft so I feel your pain

TIGI has a product called the "Curls Rock Amplifier" which a lot of people swear by for touchability and hold.

I have 2C curly hair myself and I've used this product before (and have since switched out for the Wen styling creme) - it has more of a creamy consistency and does what it says it will. A little goes a long way though so you have to be kind of hyper vigilant about using too much.

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

Ms X — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:02:35 GMT

On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 Ms X said:
Fluffy Bear: I saw your picture on the thread you bumped, and your hair is absolutely gorgeous. I really think you are obsessing way, way too much about your hair. My hair is a lot like yours, although the ringlets are about half as tight. I can't imagine doing all that with it! I do use coconut oil and MOA conditioner that I get on sale. I will admit that sometimes it is frizzy and too dry, but I just don't have time to fuss with it many days.

How often do you wash it? I wonder whether all this fussing with your hair is actually drying it out. I wear my hair in layers because it is easier to comb and care for that way.

I've always had a love hate relationship with it. I love it when it looks perfect.. I hate it when it looks anything less than that. I wash 2-3 times a week,

My hair looks worse when it's been combed and when it hasn't been wet in the morning. When I'm going out, I wet my hair and put the MOA conditioner in for a couple of minutes. This allows the curls to re-form, which brings down the frizz. If I haven't wet my hair in the morning, it looks worse. I don't use shampoo every day, though. You could try Rusk Deep Shine Oil or Trader Joe's jojoba oil either when your hair is wet or to just put on dry hair that's frizzy. They both add shine and aren't expensive.

You are absolutely beautiful and, as I said, probably worry too much about your hair.

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:04:59 GMT

On 9/20/2014 HonnyBrown said:
You have frizz, but how do your curls feel? What happens when you squeeze one? Pull one?

They feel dry when my hair is dry but now so much when wet, they spring back well. The issue I'm having is that my individual strands don't seen to clump together to form fatter curls and I just have a million single strands of fly away curls, does that make sense? I'm looking for something to essentially clump and hold them together without crunch or that dry feel when u wash your hair afterwards.

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:06:52 GMT

On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

He's the redken was the one I used before. It was more of a leave in conditioner than a styling product. The full swirl was too waxy for me

I used Redken before Wen and I almost swore off the brand when they reformulated the original All Soft so I feel your pain

TIGI has a product called the "Curls Rock Amplifier" which a lot of people swear by for touchability and hold.

I have 2C curly hair myself and I've used this product before (and have since switched out for the Wen styling creme) - it has more of a creamy consistency and does what it says it will. A little goes a long way though so you have to be kind of hyper vigilant about using too much.

I tried this many years ago.. It made my hair feel like a rock haha. BUT I used a ton. I might give this another shot with less proucy. Thanks! I also tried redken ringlets.. Didn't work for me.

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

RyBelle — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:13:54 GMT

On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

He's the redken was the one I used before. It was more of a leave in conditioner than a styling product. The full swirl was too waxy for me

I used Redken before Wen and I almost swore off the brand when they reformulated the original All Soft so I feel your pain

TIGI has a product called the "Curls Rock Amplifier" which a lot of people swear by for touchability and hold.

I have 2C curly hair myself and I've used this product before (and have since switched out for the Wen styling creme) - it has more of a creamy consistency and does what it says it will. A little goes a long way though so you have to be kind of hyper vigilant about using too much.

I tried this many years ago.. It made my hair feel like a rock haha. BUT I used a ton. I might give this another shot with less proucy. Thanks! I also tried redken ringlets.. Didn't work for me.

Oh man I remembered the first time I ever used it, I was like "yeah, okay, gonna use like 4 pumps since my hair is long, no big deal," and I kid you not I didn't see movement in my hair for about a week afterwards

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:23:51 GMT

On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

He's the redken was the one I used before. It was more of a leave in conditioner than a styling product. The full swirl was too waxy for me

I used Redken before Wen and I almost swore off the brand when they reformulated the original All Soft so I feel your pain

TIGI has a product called the "Curls Rock Amplifier" which a lot of people swear by for touchability and hold.

I have 2C curly hair myself and I've used this product before (and have since switched out for the Wen styling creme) - it has more of a creamy consistency and does what it says it will. A little goes a long way though so you have to be kind of hyper vigilant about using too much.

I tried this many years ago.. It made my hair feel like a rock haha. BUT I used a ton. I might give this another shot with less proucy. Thanks! I also tried redken ringlets.. Didn't work for me.

Oh man I remembered the first time I ever used it, I was like "yeah, okay, gonna use like 4 pumps since my hair is long, no big deal," and I kid you not I didn't see movement in my hair for about a week afterwards

Same here! Haha.. But I feel like it so thick! How would you distribute that evenly? I guess I have to try it on dripping wet hair.

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

RyBelle — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:26:08 GMT

On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

He's the redken was the one I used before. It was more of a leave in conditioner than a styling product. The full swirl was too waxy for me

I used Redken before Wen and I almost swore off the brand when they reformulated the original All Soft so I feel your pain

TIGI has a product called the "Curls Rock Amplifier" which a lot of people swear by for touchability and hold.

I have 2C curly hair myself and I've used this product before (and have since switched out for the Wen styling creme) - it has more of a creamy consistency and does what it says it will. A little goes a long way though so you have to be kind of hyper vigilant about using too much.

I tried this many years ago.. It made my hair feel like a rock haha. BUT I used a ton. I might give this another shot with less proucy. Thanks! I also tried redken ringlets.. Didn't work for me.

Oh man I remembered the first time I ever used it, I was like "yeah, okay, gonna use like 4 pumps since my hair is long, no big deal," and I kid you not I didn't see movement in my hair for about a week afterwards

Same here! Haha.. But I feel like it so thick! How would you distribute that evenly? I guess I have to try it on dripping wet hair.

I would say use like one pump on soaking wet hair - since you use Wen, you know the leave-in drill

But yeah don't even think about using this on dry, or even semi-dry hair, since you can't work it in and it just kinda sits on the hair rather than penetrating and doing its job!

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:28:47 GMT

On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

He's the redken was the one I used before. It was more of a leave in conditioner than a styling product. The full swirl was too waxy for me

I used Redken before Wen and I almost swore off the brand when they reformulated the original All Soft so I feel your pain

TIGI has a product called the "Curls Rock Amplifier" which a lot of people swear by for touchability and hold.

I have 2C curly hair myself and I've used this product before (and have since switched out for the Wen styling creme) - it has more of a creamy consistency and does what it says it will. A little goes a long way though so you have to be kind of hyper vigilant about using too much.

I tried this many years ago.. It made my hair feel like a rock haha. BUT I used a ton. I might give this another shot with less proucy. Thanks! I also tried redken ringlets.. Didn't work for me.

Oh man I remembered the first time I ever used it, I was like "yeah, okay, gonna use like 4 pumps since my hair is long, no big deal," and I kid you not I didn't see movement in my hair for about a week afterwards

Same here! Haha.. But I feel like it so thick! How would you distribute that evenly? I guess I have to try it on dripping wet hair.

I would say use like one pump on soaking wet hair - since you use Wen, you know the leave-in drill

But yeah don't even think about using this on dry, or even semi-dry hair, since you can't work it in and it just kinda sits on the hair rather than penetrating and doing its job!

Pretty sure that's what I did. Ha! was like 14 ish when I tried it and I thought "more is always better!"

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

RyBelle — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:34:43 GMT

On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 RyBelle said:
Is the Redken product the one that got discontinued?

I remember seeing it back when I worked at Ulta - they rebranded the Fresh Curls line under the new name Curvaceous, and I think they reformulated and rereleased the product you're talking about under the name "Curvaceous Full Swirl," so I would check around for that before giving up hope on the product that works for you!

He's the redken was the one I used before. It was more of a leave in conditioner than a styling product. The full swirl was too waxy for me

I used Redken before Wen and I almost swore off the brand when they reformulated the original All Soft so I feel your pain

TIGI has a product called the "Curls Rock Amplifier" which a lot of people swear by for touchability and hold.

I have 2C curly hair myself and I've used this product before (and have since switched out for the Wen styling creme) - it has more of a creamy consistency and does what it says it will. A little goes a long way though so you have to be kind of hyper vigilant about using too much.

I tried this many years ago.. It made my hair feel like a rock haha. BUT I used a ton. I might give this another shot with less proucy. Thanks! I also tried redken ringlets.. Didn't work for me.

Oh man I remembered the first time I ever used it, I was like "yeah, okay, gonna use like 4 pumps since my hair is long, no big deal," and I kid you not I didn't see movement in my hair for about a week afterwards

Same here! Haha.. But I feel like it so thick! How would you distribute that evenly? I guess I have to try it on dripping wet hair.

I would say use like one pump on soaking wet hair - since you use Wen, you know the leave-in drill

But yeah don't even think about using this on dry, or even semi-dry hair, since you can't work it in and it just kinda sits on the hair rather than penetrating and doing its job!

Pretty sure that's what I did. Ha! was like 14 ish when I tried it and I thought "more is always better!"

Half a pump then? Once you find the right amount this product is awesome so it's worth the trial and error ha!

That last bit is how I felt about eyeshadow when I was 14 - it was only when my dad asked me if I had a black eye that I realized I might be going overboard

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

HonnyBrown — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:36:11 GMT

On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 HonnyBrown said:
You have frizz, but how do your curls feel? What happens when you squeeze one? Pull one?

They feel dry when my hair is dry but now so much when wet, they spring back well. The issue I'm having is that my individual strands don't seen to clump together to form fatter curls and I just have a million single strands of fly away curls, does that make sense? I'm looking for something to essentially clump and hold them together without crunch or that dry feel when u wash your hair afterwards.

John Frieda Frizz Ease! Mad curl definition!

Re: Calling my curly girls.. I need advice

FluffyBear — Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:39:42 GMT

On 9/20/2014 HonnyBrown said:
On 9/20/2014 FluffyBear said:
On 9/20/2014 HonnyBrown said:
You have frizz, but how do your curls feel? What happens when you squeeze one? Pull one?

They feel dry when my hair is dry but now so much when wet, they spring back well. The issue I'm having is that my individual strands don't seen to clump together to form fatter curls and I just have a million single strands of fly away curls, does that make sense? I'm looking for something to essentially clump and hold them together without crunch or that dry feel when u wash your hair afterwards.

John Frieda Frizz Ease! Mad curl definition!

How much do you use? Tell me everything in detail lol