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Trouble using Wen

Jhincher — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:47:05 GMT

I have been using Wen for five years...POM. I had a stash of seasonals and I though I would try them. I gave several a try, but they leave my hair feeling like a film is on it and it is flat. I thought I could no longer use Wen, so I went back to regular shampoo...bad idea. After three week my scalp was dry, itchy, and dandruff everywhere. I went back to Wen and pulled out a bottle of TT, the first cleansing made a big difference. Maybe I need to stick with POM and TT???

Re: Trouble using Wen

HonnyBrown — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:21:13 GMT

That sounds like a great idea!

I love TT. I'm glad they are working well for you.

Seasonals, for me, take too much experimentation. By the time I figure out how they work best for my hair, I'm 2/3 of the way through the bottle.

Re: Trouble using Wen

Susan25 — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:28:15 GMT

It definitely sounds like the seasonals aren't good for you. I love the seasonals and use them often. Did you take the recommender on the Chaz Dean site? I found this to be very accurate.

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ical — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:34:10 GMT

I tried WEN, and I thought, wow! This stuff is cool, it really works without bubbles and stinging my eyes if I wash my hair in a hurried shower. So one day, I thought to myself, "Gee? I wonder if I just used my regular conditioner and just skipped using any regular bubbling shampoo at all?" So I dug out one of my conditioners and washed my hair (not with WEN) but with the conditioner. I treated the regular conditioner as if it were shampoo. I put some on the ends, put some on top, rubbed and let my hair wash itself in pure conditioner. Then I thoroughly rinsed and WOW!!! It was great! So nice! So shiny! And healthy! No dry scalp! Fullness!

So I don't buy WEN any longer.

I hope you try it. Now I am sure some faithful WEN followers will come in and say "blah..blah…and it didn't work for me…blah blah…made my hair woof…blah blah blah…"

But try it, try it on a weekend. Just treat your conditioner as if it were shampoo, wash your hair top to bottom letting your locks bathe in the conditioner, rinse thoroughly, and you will see!"

In my opinion, of course.

Re: Trouble using Wen

Susan25 — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:52:48 GMT

ical, A lot of people have used conditioners to wash their hair instead of shampoo. Their is a difference between using a conditioner and a cleansing conditioner. If you use a conditioner to cleanse your hair, you will eventually have a build-up on your hair. If you don't want to use Wen you should try a cleansing conditioner instead. If you google cleansing conditioners you will get a variety of cleansing conditioners that you can try in various price ranges.

Re: Trouble using Wen

Wen_Woman — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:54:40 GMT

On 9/16/2014 ical said:
I tried WEN, and I thought, wow! This stuff is cool, it really works without bubbles and stinging my eyes if I wash my hair in a hurried shower. So one day, I thought to myself, "Gee? I wonder if I just used my regular conditioner and just skipped using any regular bubbling shampoo at all?" So I dug out one of my conditioners and washed my hair (not with WEN) but with the conditioner. I treated the regular conditioner as if it were shampoo. I put some on the ends, put some on top, rubbed and let my hair wash itself in pure conditioner. Then I thoroughly rinsed and WOW!!! It was great! So nice! So shiny! And healthy! No dry scalp! Fullness!

So I don't buy WEN any longer.

I hope you try it. Now I am sure some faithful WEN followers will come in and say "blah..blah…and it didn't work for me…blah blah…made my hair woof…blah blah blah…"

But try it, try it on a weekend. Just treat your conditioner as if it were shampoo, wash your hair top to bottom letting your locks bathe in the conditioner, rinse thoroughly, and you will see!"

In my opinion, of course.

My daughter who is 18, does this. She is happy with it but I think her hair looks coated and weighed down. I guess its like anything else, it will work great for some and not for others.

OP, I love the seasonals but the core formulas are there for a reason. If those are what work, then stick with it. What you may find at some point is that your hair will change and start liking a different formula. Its happened several times now with me. SAM is now working like magic for me and I used to end up with a frizzy mess after using that one. Lav used to be my best formula and it now seems drying. If you have seasonals left that aren't working for you right now, put them aside and give them a try later.

Re: Trouble using Wen

quadmimi — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:26:15 GMT

Found my WEN answer, I use shampoo, then leave my FIG in for the rest of my shower, only for my hair, instead of rinsing it all out and adding some back in, I just don't quit rinse it out..then I use the SC on the ends, spritz a bit of VTS at the roots, and blow almost dry, not quit..best hair ever...but I have to say for me the FIG and SHP are the best combo I have found...

Re: Trouble using Wen

HonnyBrown — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:48:06 GMT

quad, I use a sulfate shampoo twice a year. This way, my Wen is always at it's best!

ical, rinse out conditioners replace what shampoos remove from the hair. Since nothing is being removed, your conditioner is building up on your hair. Keep that in mind.

Re: Trouble using Wen

okiebug — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:55:28 GMT

OP, I'm glad you tried WEN again after finding out shampoo was too harsh on your hair and scalp. Tea tree is the best for your scalp. I don't use the seasonals, I always do my first cleanse with TT, then I use either fig or SAM. TT and POM should work for you fine. I've used WEN for over 8 years and never had to use shampoo to make WEN "work better".

Re: Trouble using Wen

FLsunlover — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:47:41 GMT

I don't get good results with the seasonals either. I've stopped buying them and stick to TT, Fig and SAM with a little 613 mixed in from time to time. That's what works best for me and there is no sense in wasting my money on something that doesn't perform for me just because I want to try a new scent.

Re: Trouble using Wen

Hilary77 — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 00:51:49 GMT

I use tea tree for my first cleanse every time I cleanse. My hair just doesn't get as clean without it. Love my tea tree!

Re: Trouble using Wen

Colonel Meow — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 01:04:29 GMT

On 9/16/2014 ical said:
I tried WEN, and I thought, wow! This stuff is cool, it really works without bubbles and stinging my eyes if I wash my hair in a hurried shower. So one day, I thought to myself, "Gee? I wonder if I just used my regular conditioner and just skipped using any regular bubbling shampoo at all?" So I dug out one of my conditioners and washed my hair (not with WEN) but with the conditioner. I treated the regular conditioner as if it were shampoo. I put some on the ends, put some on top, rubbed and let my hair wash itself in pure conditioner. Then I thoroughly rinsed and WOW!!! It was great! So nice! So shiny! And healthy! No dry scalp! Fullness!

So I don't buy WEN any longer.

I hope you try it. Now I am sure some faithful WEN followers will come in and say "blah..blah…and it didn't work for me…blah blah…made my hair woof…blah blah blah…"

But try it, try it on a weekend. Just treat your conditioner as if it were shampoo, wash your hair top to bottom letting your locks bathe in the conditioner, rinse thoroughly, and you will see!"

In my opinion, of course.

This is called "co-washing", and is nothing new. Many folks with ethnic hair types have been doing this for years (including me, prior to WEN).

Co-washing is great and has many benefits, but I will agree with the other posters who stated that there is a difference between a Co-Wash and a Cleansing Conditioner,

With co-washing, there is eventually a build-up over time that will need to be removed. True cleansing conditioners will not create this build-up, and you can continue to use them without having to rotate a clarifying product into your routine.

Re: Trouble using Wen

Jhincher — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:54:49 GMT

I think I found the reason for my problems with the seasonals. My beautician said I was using them too often and the amino acids were causing my hair to be like it was. She told me protein overload and to use my core products and maybe the seasonals once a week. So far the TT has really restored my hair, so I will again try my seasonals, I have a lot! Thanks for all of your replies.

Re: Trouble using Wen

DoxieMomma — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:20:28 GMT

Sounds like you have the same problem that I do. I can only use the seasonals occasionally. My hair just doesn't need that much protein. I try to use them once or twice a week (or about every second or third cleanse).

My hair loves the core formulas, and Tea Tree is my absolute fave! I use it for my first cleanse every time, and fairly often for my second cleanse. If you have issues with flaking and/or an itchy scalp (like me) TT can be your best friend, lol.

Hope things continue to work well for you as you get your hair back on track!

Re: Trouble using Wen

77yangya — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 21:18:20 GMT

Although I have oily scalp I need hydration for my hair and the seasonals give me that. I feel you must leave the cleansing conditioner in for at least three minutes and make sure enough is applied. The scalp and hair must be saturated in it and massage it in good. Work it into a thick cream and let it sit there and then rinse well. I then apply a quarter size leave in and one pump styling creme. My hair is so hydrated. I really did not like when my hair gets dry and crackly. I found the pear one is really nice and the Bamboo styling creme. I don't even use the mousse and gloss every day. I just use leave in and styling creme every day. I skip a day here and there but I don't feel comfortable unless I cleanse my head in the shower. Just my preference. Product application is key too. It's difficult to apply to your own head. I always thought if I could only detach my head and work on it and then re-attach it! I had to teach myself good ways of application which paid off too. Good luck!

Re: Trouble using Wen

pepes mom — Thu, 18 Sep 2014 21:46:02 GMT

Fig is my flavor of choice in the core line, but my hair seems to do better with the seasonals. That's the beauty of WEN, there is something for everyone.