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New Wen girl looking to branch out with her CC

Laura14 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:55:56 GMT

Can you Wen experts help me decide which CC to go with for the upcoming TSV?

I'm about done my first ever Wen purchase back in March where I got 613 and I chose Fig for the CC option with that kit. I'm not a fan of 613 particularly but I love Fig. I have thick coarse curly Italian hair (I actually use 10-15 pumps of the glossing serum each time to tame it with SC after a big handful of leave in) And I always let my hair air dry (no heat from anything ever) My hair is naturally wild and my curls need to be reigned in with everything and anything. I also color treat for some gray on my scalp.

I bought TT a few months ago since it is also recommended for my hair type but I really hate the smell plus I think it strips my color a little bit faster than the Fig does. Not impressed and that CC has sat.

I'm very tempted to try Lavender because I think it would smell wonderful but I'm not sure it's for my hair type and I will probably do auto delivery. I did the recommendation on CD's website and I got Pom and SAM. I tweaked my answers a bit and those two kept coming up in combo. Did not get Fig once which shocked me even though I said thick coarse hair every time. Did get Lav as a third option on the first run though.

Should I stick with Fig or do you think Lav would work on my hair type? Even in the last presentations I saw they kind of went back and forth on that formula and whether it really is for thin or thick hair. I would really appreciate any experience or recommendations you can give me.

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Beeweaver — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:59:31 GMT

Why not try Pom? I love it and it works wonders on my hair. Not a fan of the Lavendar. I also love all the seasonals that I have tried so far. So, I guess I really like the soy-based formulas. I use the 613 only on my ends as I find it too much for the top of my head and weighs my hair down.

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DoxieMomma — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:21:36 GMT

I really like the Lavender products, they smell wonderful! But, the CC is very heavy on menthol, so keep that in mind.

By your description of your hair, I don't think that LAV would be a very good formula for you. It's on the complete opposite end of the spectrum from Fig, which is working really well for you. Most people who don't like LAV complain that it's too drying. I use it occasionally, but my hair is the complete opposite of yours, fine in texture and straight.

If I were you, and if you really want to try another formula, I would consider Sweet Almond Mint. It provides nice moisture (not as much as Fig) and the scent is incredible, very spa like. POM would also be another option, but I personally don't care for the scent or performance.

Whatever you decide, be aware that you can usually change your formula options for the second and/or third AD shipments. It's not an option online, but you can make the change by calling or emailing customer service in advance of the next shipments. I've done this with several past TSVs and have always received the formula that I've requested.

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Laura14 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:26:50 GMT

That's what I keep getting is Pom. The only reason I am shying away from the universal CCs is because not many people have my hair type. And what works for most people never works for me. I'm the 1% that needs the extra weight on my hair. I know when I saw the demo on the glossing serum, 3 was about the max they recommended. I literally do at least 10 pumps due to the length and texture of my hair and could probably do more. Soy base is interesting though. I never thought about that.

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Laura14 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:31:37 GMT

On 8/20/2014 DoxieMomma said:
I really like the Lavender products, they smell wonderful! But, the CC is very heavy on menthol, so keep that in mind.

By your description of your hair, I don't think that LAV would be a very good formula for you. It's on the complete opposite end of the spectrum from Fig, which is working really well for you. Most people who don't like LAV complain that it's too drying. I use it occasionally, but my hair is the complete opposite of yours, fine in texture and straight.

If I were you, and if you really want to try another formula, I would consider Sweet Almond Mint. It provides nice moisture (not as much as Fig) and the scent is incredible, very spa like. POM would also be another option, but I personally don't care for the scent or performance.

Whatever you decide, be aware that you can usually change your formula options for the second and/or third AD shipments. It's not an option online, but you can make the change by calling or emailing customer service in advance of the next shipments. I've done this with several past TSVs and have always received the formula that I've requested.

Awesome! I didn't know you could change formulas on auto. I remember with the gallons they said no to that.

That's what I thought about Lav but then I swear I've heard them say but it will work on thicker hair because it's more frothy than the others. Okay, crossing Lav off the list. So I'm down to Pom and/or SAM and I guess that's a scent preference.

Thank you guys so much for weighing in and helping me out. I appreciate it!

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ChynnaBlue — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:56:49 GMT

Is your hair normally oily, normal, or dry? If it needs a lot of moisture, as most wavy/curly hair tends to, I would stick to Fig or plan on mixing Fig with whatever else you get. I've tried most formulas (not lavender, because I'm allergic) and have found that Fig is the only one that gives me enough moisture for my waves and curls on its own. I use it alone or mix it with anything that doesn't work alone.

Keep that in mind of you get Lavender and it doesn't work for you - mix it with fig. You can either mix it in your hand or do a first cleanse with Lavender and a second with Fig. Good luck!

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CamilleP — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:47:11 GMT

I'm glad you are not trying Lavender, it's on the "light moisture" end of the spectrum for me, which is normally about right, but I'm mildly allergic to lavender so I hardly ever use it. Love the scent, not the scalp issues the day after. For me, the perfect balance when I need moisture is the seasonal Fall Ginger Pumpkin, so if it turns out that the 32oz AD of seasonals offers that as a choice, you might want to try it, it's almost as moisturizing as Fig. Fall Apple Spice is another soy-based seasonal that's moisture-rich, it's actually too heavy for my fine hair, as Fig is. I like the many of the soy based cleansers, but not Pom, based on scent alone, I like TT and Fig better than Pom on the smell criteria. If you are getting good results with Fig, I'd advise staying with that for the TSV, and ordering one of the 16 ounce duos in SAM/POM, so you can try them to see if you like either of them better than Fig, then, if you do, you can switch your TSV AD for following shipments (if the Q lets you, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't).

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FluffyBear — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:48:59 GMT

I have curly thick hair and while lavender smells nice, it's very drying for me. It seems like you really want to try the lavender so I would order it and try it for a weeks or two and if you don't like it send it back for Pom or Fig.

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islandgrrl — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:05:34 GMT

I agree with those who are steering you away from lavender. It was much too drying for my curly locks. In addition to the good advice here, you might glance at the 'women of color' conversation here on the WEN boards. Many women with 'ethnic' hair have needs similar to yours -- moisture, control, and seeking soft curls. You will find kindred spirits in that conversation.

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Susan25 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:25:09 GMT

On 8/20/2014 FluffyBear said: I have curly thick hair and while lavender smells nice, it's very drying for me. It seems like you really want to try the lavender so I would order it and try it for a weeks or two and if you don't like it send it back for Pom or Fig.

I also agree that the lavender is very drying. I don't have curly thick hair but fairly straight, hair that tends to be on the dry side. I agree with fluffybear that you should try the pom. I also like the SAM and don't find it drying.

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Laura14 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:33:01 GMT

On 8/20/2014 ChynnaBlue said:
Is your hair normally oily, normal, or dry? If it needs a lot of moisture, as most wavy/curly hair tends to, I would stick to Fig or plan on mixing Fig with whatever else you get. I've tried most formulas (not lavender, because I'm allergic) and have found that Fig is the only one that gives me enough moisture for my waves and curls on its own. I use it alone or mix it with anything that doesn't work alone.

Keep that in mind of you get Lavender and it doesn't work for you - mix it with fig. You can either mix it in your hand or do a first cleanse with Lavender and a second with Fig. Good luck!

Dry! Dry! Dry! That's why I never put a blow dryer to it or anything else. Just air dry, always or I have Buckwheat's hairstyle. I did not think of mixing even though I hear about it all the time. I might try it. Thanks!

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Laura14 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:36:42 GMT

On 8/20/2014 islandgrrl said:
I agree with those who are steering you away from lavender. It was much too drying for my curly locks. In addition to the good advice here, you might glance at the 'women of color' conversation here on the WEN boards. Many women with 'ethnic' hair have needs similar to yours -- moisture, control, and seeking soft curls. You will find kindred spirits in that conversation.

You are so right. Before I found Wen the looks I would get from the cashiers whenever I was buying women of color products were priceless. Hey, I have the head of hair that I have. My last name supposedly even means curly haired. Thanks, Grandpop!

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Laura14 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:38:50 GMT

On 8/20/2014 CamilleP said:
I'm glad you are not trying Lavender, it's on the "light moisture" end of the spectrum for me, which is normally about right, but I'm mildly allergic to lavender so I hardly ever use it. Love the scent, not the scalp issues the day after. For me, the perfect balance when I need moisture is the seasonal Fall Ginger Pumpkin, so if it turns out that the 32oz AD of seasonals offers that as a choice, you might want to try it, it's almost as moisturizing as Fig. Fall Apple Spice is another soy-based seasonal that's moisture-rich, it's actually too heavy for my fine hair, as Fig is. I like the many of the soy based cleansers, but not Pom, based on scent alone, I like TT and Fig better than Pom on the smell criteria. If you are getting good results with Fig, I'd advise staying with that for the TSV, and ordering one of the 16 ounce duos in SAM/POM, so you can try them to see if you like either of them better than Fig, then, if you do, you can switch your TSV AD for following shipments (if the Q lets you, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't).

Thank you so much. I've steered clear of seasonals because if I find something I love I don't do well when it is taken away from me. But it sounds like some of them come back eventually?

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ChynnaBlue — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:40:27 GMT

I can't use Pom or SAM alone or my hair gets dry. You can try them, but keep Fig on hand to use with them. I can use anything as long as I also use Fig.

Fig, to me, is one of my least favorite WEN scents, but I use it because it's so effective. The scent doesn't linger and I use SAM as my leave-in.

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CamilleP — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:48:36 GMT

On 8/20/2014 Laura14 said:

Thank you so much. I've steered clear of seasonals because if I find something I love I don't do well when it is taken away from me. But it sounds like some of them come back eventually?

Laura, there have been a few hints that the upcoming 32 ounce seasonal auto-delivery might include previous years' seasonal formulas, one such "sneak peek" pictured the newest fall formula, T*u*s*c*a*n Pear (Q filters ban the Italian region's name for some odd reason), along with Apple Spice and Ginger Pumpkin. Until such a program is offered for sale here, I am not counting on it, but if it is offered, I will start the A/D and then, for winter, get as many Winter Vanilla Mints as I can possibly afford to buy, as that original winter formula was the one true perfect WEN for my hair. One thing I have learned from the long-time WEN users is that, if you do find a perfect formula, stock up when you can. I like SAM, TT and CA, can use Fig sparingly, Lavender rarely, and cannot stand the scent of POM, but some of the seasonal formulas I truly love, so if the opportunity arises to get them again, I'm going for it.

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Laura14 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:54:22 GMT

On 8/20/2014 CamilleP said:
On 8/20/2014 Laura14 said:<br />

Thank you so much. I've steered clear of seasonals because if I find something I love I don't do well when it is taken away from me. But it sounds like some of them come back eventually?

Laura, there have been a few hints that the upcoming 32 ounce seasonal auto-delivery might include previous years' seasonal formulas, one such "sneak peek" pictured the newest fall formula, T*u*s*c*a*n Pear (Q filters ban the Italian region's name for some odd reason), along with Apple Spice and Ginger Pumpkin. Until such a program is offered for sale here, I am not counting on it, but if it is offered, I will start the A/D and then, for winter, get as many Winter Vanilla Mints as I can possibly afford to buy, as that original winter formula was the one true perfect WEN for my hair. One thing I have learned from the long-time WEN users is that, if you do find a perfect formula, stock up when you can. I like SAM, TT and CA, can use Fig sparingly, Lavender rarely, and cannot stand the scent of POM, but some of the seasonal formulas I truly love, so if the opportunity arises to get them again, I'm going for it.

Thank you so much!

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Laura14 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:56:13 GMT

Thanks everyone! I guess we are sticking with Fig and I will try the seasonals you guys suggested if they ever show up again. Writing these down...

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jaxs mom — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:23:37 GMT

Well my hair is only wavy and Lav left it a complete puff ball, plus with the menthol I think it smells horrible. I tried that quiz thing on Chaz's site and it kept recommending CC that I've tried and my hair doesn't like so...

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ginabfly — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:35:11 GMT

I too have very dry hair, but mine is naturally blonde so it's on the fine/normal side, and it's wavy/curly/FRIZZY. I LOVE the lavender CC scent, but it's too drying for my hair. It's meant for fine hair that needs volume. I wish it were moisturizing because I would love to be able to use it! I also love the extra menthol in it, I love using it, until my hair dries into a parched frizzball.

I use Fig/TT, and am thinking of trying SAM, but not sure if it will be moisturizing enough for me. I too did not get Fig as my recommendation from the website, but kept getting POM, SAM and LAV. Or SHP, POM, SAM. SHP didn't work for me, I'm one of the few that doesn't like it. Honestly I think my hair type is never happy and nothing really seems to work well for me, I wasn't very happy with my website diagnosis.

I'm still trying to figure out what works best for me, good luck and I hope you find what's best for your hair Laura!

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Tinkrbl44 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:32:32 GMT

You didn't say whether your hair is oily, dry or normal, so I'm not sure what to recommend, but I like the Lavender.

By the way ...... why don't you get your hair straightened so it will be a lot less trouble?