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Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

virgosun — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 16:38:32 GMT

Missha First Treatment Essence! The SK II essence is the best selling product in their line and costs well over $100. It is a yeast based skin softener that is applied like a toner after cleansing and before treatments. I searched the web and found that Missha (love their BB creams) also has a very similar yeast based lotion which you can find on Amazon for around $32. Asian women originally used this product swear by it for keeping skin clear and toned. It was originally found in the factories where women made sake and although they got older their hands always stayed soft and youthful. Always wanted to give it a try but the SK II was too costly. Just a heads up for you fellow skincare junkies!

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

virgosun — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 16:54:55 GMT

Does anyone here use either of these products and what do you think of them?

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

CANDLEQUEEN — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 17:28:52 GMT

Love SK-II products, but had to stop using-very expensive but great products. So good to know there is a dupe for Facial Essence as this was my absolute favorite from their line......Thanks for posting!!!!

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

virgosun — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 17:35:16 GMT

JM I was glad to find this dupe too. I think Missha is a good line so I'm willing to trust their essence is quite similar to SKII. The main ingredient is "pitera" (I think) which is the yeast that comes from sake, guessing this might be the argan oil of Asia!!!!

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

Sealeveller — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 17:37:58 GMT

Thanks for the tip! I have always wanted to try SKII but found it to be really expensive, so no go.

I have always read a lot of great things about Missha and its line, so I may have to give it a try!

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

JeanLouiseFinch — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 17:41:32 GMT

How do you like to apply it? In the picture on the Missha site, it looks like a cotton pad is being used, but then in the instructions it says to use the palm of your hand?

Also, initially in reading the ingredients, I was alerted to PROPANEDIOL being second on the list. Propanediol is another name for Propylene Glycol. I've read several place on the internet where it doesn't sound like it's something we'd want on our skin, but then today I found another article that essentially dispels that. Anyone know for sure?

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

virgosun — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:19:31 GMT

I just ordered it so I guess I'll try applying it both ways and see what works once it arrives. Thanks for the tip about the other ingredients. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they are okay!

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

cassiem — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:23:00 GMT

I found the Missha essence about a year ago and tried it. While it didn't irritate my skin, so had zero results from it. Absolutely no change in my skin, so did not repurchase. I haven't tried SKII, so can't compare.

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

CANDLEQUEEN — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:40:00 GMT

I usually used mine in the pal of my hand, as to not waste one drop-since it was so expensive!!!!!You only need a little bit too which is nice. Thanks Virgosun for posting the dupe. I have heard good things about Missha so I think I will try it as well!!!!!!

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

virgosun — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 19:20:54 GMT

JM Since they both have a high percentage of the main pitera ingredient than that is good enough for me to give it a try too. I know SKII charges a lot because they are known as a real prestige brand with elaborate packaging etc and have Cate Blanchette as their spokeswoman. So maybe Missha saves on those features and can still offer the same/similar strength ingredients. I'm always willing to give something a try at least once!

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

CANDLEQUEEN — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 19:40:08 GMT

On 8/4/2014 virgosun said:
JM Since they both have a high percentage of the main pitera ingredient than that is good enough for me to give it a try too. I know SKII charges a lot because they are known as a real prestige brand with elaborate packaging etc and have Cate Blanchette as their spokeswoman. So maybe Missha saves on those features and can still offer the same/similar strength ingredients. I'm always willing to give something a try at least once!

Exactly. Be sure to post a review if you try it and I will too!

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

FUTURE — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 22:28:42 GMT

The EWG posts that there is a "low" harm risk rating with the propanediol. Tom's of Maine uses it as a base for their deodorant. Apparently, it is also safe for consumption. Just some google-izing I did.

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

poregirl — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 22:37:58 GMT

doesn't Skinn have a softening essence?

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

virgosun — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 23:36:02 GMT

yes SKINN does but I don't know the ingredients or if pitera is the main one. Looks like something that has been popular in other countries may be catching on here.

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

Icegoddess — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 23:52:47 GMT

Sounds good. May have to try it. I would never spend $100 for a toner. I actually don't even use a toner right now. Keep us posted.

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

poregirl — Tue, 05 Aug 2014 05:36:30 GMT

On 8/4/2014 poregirl said:
doesn't Skinn have a softening essence?

INGREDIENTS:
Enriched Softening Essence: Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Water, Tamarindus Indica Seed Extract, Arnica Montana Flower Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Laminaria Japonica (Seaweed) Extract, Symphytum Officinale Rhizome/Root Extract, Althaea Officinalis Root Extract, Trifolium Pratense (Clover) Extract, Sambucus Nigra Flower Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Achillea Millefolium Extract, Glycyrrhiza Glabra (Licorice) Root Extract, Pyrus Cydonia Seed Extract, Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Extract, Citrus Aurantium Amara (Bitter Orange) Flower Extract, Panax Ginseng Root Extract, Pyrus Malus (Apple) Fruit Extract, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Peel Extract, Prunus Persica (Peach) Fruit Extract, Galium Aparine Extract, Butylene Glycol, Viola Tricolor Extract, Foeniculum Vulgare (Fennel) Fruit Extract, Viola Odorata Extract, Ulmus Fulva Bark Extract, Pentylene Glycol, Carum Petroselinum (Parsley) Extract, Sodium Acetylated Hyaluronate, Glycerin, Benzoic Acid, Sorbic Acid, Phenoxyethanol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Disodium EDTA, Capsicum Frutescens Fruit Extract, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Extract, Taraxacum Officinale (Dandelion) Extract

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

cassiem — Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:29:49 GMT

After doing a little more research, I discovered some interesting differences between the two essences. The Missha essence doesn't contain Pitera, the active ingredient in SKII. SKII has exclusive rights to that ingredient. Pitera is the yeast formed from making saki and the yeast in the Missha is from beer. SKII contains 90% Pitera, Missha contains 80% of the yeast extract.

However, I've read many reviews that prefer the Missha over SKII. I think perhaps it's because of the other actives in the Missha (like niacinnamide) that are lacking in SKII.

For those who are interested, here are the ingredient lists for both:

SKIIFacial Treatment Essence: Saccharomycopsis Ferment Filtrate(90%), Butylene Glycol, Pentylene Glycol, Aqua (Water/ Eau), Sodium Benzoate, Methylparaben, Sorbic Acid

Missha's Time Revolution Treatment Essence: Saccharomyces Ferment Filtrate (80%),Propanediol,Glycyrrhiza Glabra ( Licorice Root Extract ), Niacinamide, Polyquaternium-51, Bifida Ferment Lysate, Ulmus Davidiana Root Extract, Raffinose, Amaranthus Caudatus Seed, Piper Methysticum Leaf/Root Extract, Centella Asiatica Extract, Beta Vulgaris (Beet) Root, Portulaca Oleracea Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis, Chamomile Extract, Phellodendron Amurense Bark, Cassia Alata Leaf Extract, Sodium Hyaluronate, Hydrogenated Lecithin, Glycerin, Pentylene Glycol, Hydrolyzed Corn Starch, Tromethamine, Water, Adenosine, Ethylhexylglycerin, Lactic Acid, Phenoxyethanol

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

Dal1 — Tue, 05 Aug 2014 19:29:00 GMT

I'm starting to think that "essences" are the new hot thing in skincare as I just read something in a magazine a few days ago that estee lauder and clinique both have this type of product in their lines now as well. There was another brand mentioned in the article that I don't remember. I've actually been curious about trying the SKII one for awhile but never took the plunge because of $, so trying the missha one seems like a good place to start. The clinique one is comparable $ wise to the missha, but I couldn't find any ingredient list to compare w/ the missha, so I went with the missha - hopefully it won't take too long to receive since I've never ordered from them before.

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

cassiem — Wed, 06 Aug 2014 18:20:38 GMT

On 8/5/2014 dal said:
I'm starting to think that "essences" are the new hot thing in skincare as I just read something in a magazine a few days ago that estee lauder and clinique both have this type of product in their lines now as well. There was another brand mentioned in the article that I don't remember. I've actually been curious about trying the SKII one for awhile but never took the plunge because of $, so trying the missha one seems like a good place to start. The clinique one is comparable $ wise to the missha, but I couldn't find any ingredient list to compare w/ the missha, so I went with the missha - hopefully it won't take too long to receive since I've never ordered from them before.

I found the Clinique essence ingredients for you. There are two formulas for different skin types. They both contain the same yeast extract as the Missha, though further down the ingredient list and percentage is not disclosed. I have a sample of the combo to oily skin version and it was nice, very soothing. I didn't use it long enough to see any real results.

Clinique Even Better Essence Lotion Combination to Oily Skin ingredients: WaterAquaEau, Butylene Glycol, Glycerin, Citrullus Vulgaris (Watermelon) Fruit Extract, Pyrus Malus (Apple) Fruit Extract, Lens Esculenta (Lentil) Fruit Extract, Tamarindus Indicia Seed Extract, Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber) Fruit Extract, Laminaria Saccharina Extract, Cladosiphon Okamuranus Extract, Scutellaria Baicalensis Root Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Artemia Extract, Algae Extract, Biotin, Sodium Hyaluronate, Sucrose, Ergothioneine, Caffeine, Sodium PCA, Saccharomyces Ferment Filtrate, Trehalose, Acetyl Glucosamine, Polysorbate 20, Caprylyl Glycol, Dextrin, Hexylene Glycol, Sodium Lactate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol

Clinique Even Better Treatment Essence Lotion Dry to Very Dry Skin ingredients: WaterAquaEau, Bis-PEG 18 Methyl Ether Dimethyl Silane, Glycerin, Butylene Glycol, Pentene Glycol, Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber) Fruit Extract, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Extract, Tamarindus Indicia Seed Extract, Scutellaria Baicalensis Root Extract, Cladosiphon Okamuranus Extract, Lens Esculenta (Lentil) Fruit Extract, Pyrus Malus (Apple) Fruit Extract, Citrullus Vulgaris (Watermelon) Fruit Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Saccharomyces Ferment Filtrate, Hordeum Vulgare (Barley) ExtractExtrait D’Orge, Artemia Extract, Algae Extract, Biotin, Ergothioneine, Caffeine, Sucrose, Sodium Lactate, Acetyl Glucosamine, Squalane, Trehalose, Sodium Hyaluronate, Jojoba Esters, PEG-32, Caprylyl Glycol, PEF-6, Polysorbate 20, Dextrin, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearic Acid, Sodium PCA, Glyceryl Stearate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Hexylene Glycol, Sodium Hydroxide, Citric Acid, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol

Re: Found Dupe for SK II Facial Treatment Essence!!!!

JeanLouiseFinch — Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:09:27 GMT

On 8/4/2014 FUTURE said: The EWG posts that there is a "low" harm risk rating with the propanediol. Tom's of Maine uses it as a base for their deodorant. Apparently, it is also safe for consumption. Just some google-izing I did.

Thanks FUTURE. Sometimes it can be so confuzzling as to what's bad or OK.