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Nail Lacquar vs Nail Enamel

Tricolor — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:32:13 GMT

My nail tech is away this week so I went to a shop that I used to visit years ago. I use Revlon Colorstay Base and Topcoat and took that with me. After years of trying everything on the market, this works the best for me. The tech mentioned that sometimes women have trouble with their polish staying on because of the type of polish. She said there is lacquar and there is enamel. Most polishes are lacquar. However, many women find that enamel stays on better. I found this interesting because no one has ever mentioned to me. She said Avon, Jessica and Revlon are enamels. Creative Nail Design was an enamel. It is now CND and they have Vinylux. Creative used to have great staying power on me. I found this very interesting and thought that I would pass on to anyone having trouble with their polishes staying on.

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muttmom — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:38:19 GMT

The brands that you mentioned with staying power are gel polishes. Originally gel polishes needed to be cured under a light, but this is no longer true for many of them. Some European brands of nail polish have always used the term lacquer instead of polish.

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Shelbelle — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:39:08 GMT

Hi, Tri, as we have discussed before, you know I had no luck with Revlon Colorstay, now no luck with Revlon Gel Envy. I did try Vinylux, and it was better for me.

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Tricolor — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:52:33 GMT

On 8/1/2014 Shelbelle said:
Hi, Tri, as we have discussed before, you know I had no luck with Revlon Colorstay, now no luck with Revlon Gel Envy. I did try Vinylux, and it was better for me.

Hi Shel, I wondered how the new Revlon would work. As long as I use their base and top I can use China Glaze and OPI. Actually OPI stays on me much better. Vinylux also works pretty well for me. Their old line when it was Creative Nail Design worked really great for me.

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Tricolor — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:55:57 GMT

On 8/1/2014 muttmom said:
The brands that you mentioned with staying power are gel polishes. Originally gel polishes needed to be cured under a light, but this is no longer true for many of them. Some European brands of nail polish have always used the term lacquer instead of polish.

I really did not realize that there was any difference until she mentioned this to me.

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Clover29 — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:00:59 GMT

I've always thought the names were interchangeable. Lacquer, enamel, polish and varnish, all the same thing to me. And if they're not gel/shellac, they all chip.

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Shelbelle — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:01:33 GMT

I recently found a very inexpensive new top coat in Walmart from Nail Aid, that is gel like and supposed to keep all polishes on natural nails for up to 2 weeks. Of course I had to buy it, trying it now for first time with an Essie polish, only had it put on yesterday at the salon, too soon to tell.

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I am still oxox — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:05:01 GMT

On 8/1/2014 Shelbelle said:
Hi, Tri, as we have discussed before, you know I had no luck with Revlon Colorstay, now no luck with Revlon Gel Envy. I did try Vinylux, and it was better for me.

I love Vinylux and I have used nothing else since the first time I saw it in the nail salon

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ChynnaBlue — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:15:44 GMT

That's true for paint, but I don't believe it's true for nail polish. The difference between lacquer paint and enamel paint is nitrocelluose, which is found in lacquer paint and a staple ingredient in nail polish, no matter what the brand, name, or price. In nail polish, usually "lacquer" is just a word they use to sound more posh than they are or charge you more money. Same with glass files vs crystal files. They're all glass, but crystal sounds better. It's not the same as the difference between a juice glass and a crustal wine glass.

Maybe she's thinking about B3F polishes (just about all new polish lines are B3F now, though many treatments are not). Some people say that older polishes with Toluene, Formaldehyde and Dibutyl phthalate (DBP) worked better for them. DBP was the plasticizer that prevented chipping, so for some people, maybe the newer plasticizers don't work as well.

You can read more about some of those things here, here, and here. That last one is All Lacquered Up, which one of my main sources for learning about B3F polishes when they started making the formula changes. She's got a lot of helpful information.

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Tricolor — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:41:31 GMT

On 8/1/2014 Shelbelle said:
I recently found a very inexpensive new top coat in Walmart from Nail Aid, that is gel like and supposed to keep all polishes on natural nails for up to 2 weeks. Of course I had to buy it, trying it now for first time with an Essie polish, only had it put on yesterday at the salon, too soon to tell.

Will be waiting to hear your review. We are always looking for the latest and greatest and inexpensive is even better.

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Tricolor — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:43:25 GMT

On 8/1/2014 ChynnaBlue said:
That's true for paint, but I don't believe it's true for nail polish. The difference between lacquer paint and enamel paint is nitrocelluose, which is found in lacquer paint and a staple ingredient in nail polish, no matter what the brand, name, or price. In nail polish, usually "lacquer" is just a word they use to sound more posh than they are or charge you more money. Same with glass files vs crystal files. They're all glass, but crystal sounds better. It's not the same as the difference between a juice glass and a crustal wine glass.

Maybe she's thinking about B3F polishes (just about all new polish lines are B3F now, though many treatments are not). Some people say that older polishes with Toluene, Formaldehyde and Dibutyl phthalate (DBP) worked better for them. DBP was the plasticizer that prevented chipping, so for some people, maybe the newer plasticizers don't work as well.

You can read more about some of those things here, here, and here. That last one is All Lacquered Up, which one of my main sources for learning about B3F polishes when they started making the formula changes. She's got a lot of helpful informnfoation.

Thank you for your informative post. I also thought that lacquar was just a fancy name for polish. Have a good one!

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Shelbelle — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:13:33 GMT

I agree, I remember many years ago that polish in the drug stores were called polish and the dept store brands were called lacquer.

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Shelbelle — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:23:21 GMT

NAIL-AID ALMOST GEL SHINY NAILS XTREME SHINE TOP COAT TREATMENT CHIP FREE #08841 This is what I am trying now.

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Tricolor — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:51:03 GMT

On 8/1/2014 Shelbelle said:

NAIL-AID ALMOST GEL SHINY NAILS XTREME SHINE TOP COAT TREATMENT CHIP FREE #08841 This is what I am trying now.

Thanks Shel. Hope that it works. Anxious to hear your review.

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muttmom — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 21:16:44 GMT

On 8/1/2014 Shelbelle said:

NAIL-AID ALMOST GEL SHINY NAILS XTREME SHINE TOP COAT TREATMENT CHIP FREE #08841 This is what I am trying now.

With shipping, that is pricey. I buy CND Vinylux top coat for $5 or $6 a bottle.

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Shelbelle — Sat, 02 Aug 2014 14:40:31 GMT

On 8/1/2014 muttmom said:
On 8/1/2014 Shelbelle said:

NAIL-AID ALMOST GEL SHINY NAILS XTREME SHINE TOP COAT TREATMENT CHIP FREE #08841 This is what I am trying now.

With shipping, that is pricey. I buy CND Vinylux top coat for $5 or $6 a bottle.

This was only a few dollars in Walmart.

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Shelbelle — Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:57:30 GMT

On 8/1/2014 Tricolor said:
On 8/1/2014 Shelbelle said:

NAIL-AID ALMOST GEL SHINY NAILS XTREME SHINE TOP COAT TREATMENT CHIP FREE #08841 This is what I am trying now.

Thanks Shel. Hope that it works. Anxious to hear your review.

Here is my review in a word, terrible product, no miracles here to say the least.