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Genes vs Routine: How Much of Your Skin Aging Can You Actually Control?

MarenSeattle — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:11:00 GMT

Wish I knew how to insert photos from my iPad, but hopefully the link will last ((you'll actually have to cut and paste).

It shows twins and the difference between the smoker and non-smoker, the sun lover and the one who was moderate, and one who used an "anti aging" product and one who didn't. Interesting!!

http://www.youbeauty.com/skin/genes-vs-routine-how-much-of-skin-aging-can-you-control?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Newsletter%20Full%20List&utm_campaign=Top%20Story%207%2F31%2F14&utm_content=Final

ETA: I've tried 3 times to cut and re-paste that link but the "box" keeps messing it up. Hope you can access it.

Re: Genes vs Routine: How Much of Your Skin Aging Can You Actually Control?

Katluvr58 — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:46:02 GMT

Very interesting!!! Those with melasma should also click on that link on the site. Very interesting as well.

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HappyDaze — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:49:44 GMT

I can see it in my own family how good skincare and prevention makes a difference. We don't have any smokers in the family and we are similar in so many ways except the way we take care of our skin. It is eye opening.

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Harpa — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:06:00 GMT

"Research does show, that while our genes do play a very important role in figuring out what our predispositions are, that it is a far more complicated process where our genes influence what we want to do, but also what we choose to do, and how we act influences our genes in how they are expressed." [emphasis mine]

Dr. Jeff Zweerink

Video Url: http://c450255.r55.cf2.rackcdn.com/2_gene_expression.mp4

Re: Genes vs Routine: How Much of Your Skin Aging Can You Actually Control?

MarenSeattle — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:06:09 GMT

On 7/31/2014 HappyDaze said:
I can see it in my own family how good skincare and prevention makes a difference. We don't have any smokers in the family and we are similar in so many ways except the way we take care of our skin. It is eye opening.

That's helpful, especially being able to compare the difference between those who do or don't "take care" of themselves. If we can only look in the mirror, we're not aware of the infinitesimal, incremental changes. You're obviously one of the family members who is doing the "right thing". :-)

Reading this article made me vow to "get back to eating well" and to check out Isomers telomere product. :-)

Re: Genes vs Routine: How Much of Your Skin Aging Can You Actually Control?

MarenSeattle — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:11:09 GMT

On 7/31/2014 Harpa said:
"Research does show, that while our genes do play a very important role in figuring out what our predispositions are, that it is a far more complicated process where our genes influence what we want to do, but also what we choose to do, and how we act influences our genes in how they are expressed." [emphasis mine]

Dr. Jeff Zweerink

Video Url: http://c450255.r55.cf2.rackcdn.com/2_gene_expression.mp4

Boy, that's interesting! Any further info on what "how we act" entails? How do you interpret this?

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Harpa — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:14:48 GMT

On 7/31/2014 MarenSeattle said:
On 7/31/2014 Harpa said:
"Research does show, that while our genes do play a very important role in figuring out what our predispositions are, that it is a far more complicated process where our genes influence what we want to do, but also what we choose to do, and how we act influences our genes in how they are expressed." [emphasis mine]

Dr. Jeff Zweerink
Video Url: http://c450255.r55.cf2.rackcdn.com/2_gene_expression.mp4

Boy, that's interesting! Any further info on what "how we act" entails? How do you interpret this?

We reap what we sow.

This lesson really hits home to a musician! If I don't practice, guess what? I play lousy! If I practice, I play great!

If I don't eat right...

If I don't exercise...

If I don't wash my face every night and treat my skin...

Re: Genes vs Routine: How Much of Your Skin Aging Can You Actually Control?

MarenSeattle — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:23:58 GMT

On 7/31/2014 Harpa said:
On 7/31/2014 MarenSeattle said:
On 7/31/2014 Harpa said:
"Research does show, that while our genes do play a very important role in figuring out what our predispositions are, that it is a far more complicated process where our genes influence what we want to do, but also what we choose to do, and how we act influences our genes in how they are expressed." [emphasis mine]

Dr. Jeff Zweerink
Video Url: http://c450255.r55.cf2.rackcdn.com/2_gene_expression.mp4

Boy, that's interesting! Any further info on what "how we act" entails? How do you interpret this?

We reap what we sow.

This lesson really hits home to a musician! If I don't practice, guess what? I play lousy! If I practice, I play great!

If I don't eat right...

If I don't exercise...

If I don't wash my face every night and treat my skin...

Got it. :-)

Re: Genes vs Routine: How Much of Your Skin Aging Can You Actually Control?

HappyDaze — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:55:44 GMT

On 7/31/2014 MarenSeattle said:
On 7/31/2014 HappyDaze said:
I can see it in my own family how good skincare and prevention makes a difference. We don't have any smokers in the family and we are similar in so many ways except the way we take care of our skin. It is eye opening.

That's helpful, especially being able to compare the difference between those who do or don't "take care" of themselves. If we can only look in the mirror, we're not aware of the infinitesimal, incremental changes. You're obviously one of the family members who is doing the "right thing". :-)

Reading this article made me vow to "get back to eating well" and to check out Isomers telomere product. :-)

yes and drinking water/staying hydrated! i am always amazed at how much "plumper" my skin looks when I've had alot of water and herbal teas.

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HappyDaze — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:01:32 GMT

NCN's DNA serum is also suppose to support the telomeres as well. I've always been curious about it. I just haven't researched if anything topical can truly support telomeres in the way that these products claim. Would you happen to know the ingredients of the Isomers one?

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MarenSeattle — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:02:24 GMT

On 7/31/2014 HappyDaze said:
On 7/31/2014 MarenSeattle said:
On 7/31/2014 HappyDaze said:
I can see it in my own family how good skincare and prevention makes a difference. We don't have any smokers in the family and we are similar in so many ways except the way we take care of our skin. It is eye opening.

That's helpful, especially being able to compare the difference between those who do or don't "take care" of themselves. If we can only look in the mirror, we're not aware of the infinitesimal, incremental changes. You're obviously one of the family members who is doing the "right thing". :-)

Reading this article made me vow to "get back to eating well" and to check out Isomers telomere product. :-)

yes and drinking water/staying hydrated! i am always amazed at how much "plumper" my skin looks when I've had alot of water and herbal teas.

Excellent point! I have a filter on my tap. My fantasy is to have a house-wide heavy duty filter. A friend bought a showerhead with a filter and said she was amazed at how different her skin felt. Too many toxins everywhere. Sigh.

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sun8shine — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 00:48:49 GMT

On 7/31/2014 MarenSeattle said:
On 7/31/2014 Harpa said:
"Research does show, that while our genes do play a very important role in figuring out what our predispositions are, that it is a far more complicated process where our genes influence what we want to do, but also what we choose to do, and how we act influences our genes in how they are expressed." [emphasis mine]

Dr. Jeff Zweerink
Video Url: http://c450255.r55.cf2.rackcdn.com/2_gene_expression.mp4

Boy, that's interesting! Any further info on what "how we act" entails? How do you interpret this?

Genes also respond with the environment that they are in - its called epigenetics here is an article

: http://theweek.com/article/index/238907/epigenetics-how-our-experiences-affect-our-offspring

Also genes are not destiny - there is a gene called the "warrior gene" that can make people function differently in times of stress (more cool under pressure) but they may also tend to be more aggressive. I saw a documentary and they tested navy seals, bikers, gang bangers and Buddhist monks for the gene. The group with the highest frequency of the gene was the MONKS - so even though they have the gene they did not display those traits.

As far as this topic goes, the biggest thing that ages people is the sun (even more than the smokes) so if you stay out of the sun or wear protection daily you are going to get less damage than someone is outside daily without sun protection. The "damage" to skin is things like larger pores, wrinkles, loss of collagen etc.

I found this cool article where they actually studied twins and compared how old they lookd - it has pictures too. Perfect example of lifestyle resulting in differences.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0008021

Re: Genes vs Routine: How Much of Your Skin Aging Can You Actually Control?

MarenSeattle — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 01:07:55 GMT

On 7/31/2014 sun8shine said:
On 7/31/2014 MarenSeattle said:
On 7/31/2014 Harpa said:
"Research does show, that while our genes do play a very important role in figuring out what our predispositions are, that it is a far more complicated process where our genes influence what we want to do, but also what we choose to do, and how we act influences our genes in how they are expressed." [emphasis mine]

Dr. Jeff Zweerink
Video Url: http://c450255.r55.cf2.rackcdn.com/2_gene_expression.mp4

Boy, that's interesting! Any further info on what "how we act" entails? How do you interpret this?

Genes also respond with the environment that they are in - its called epigenetics here is an article

: http://theweek.com/article/index/238907/epigenetics-how-our-experiences-affect-our-offspring

Also genes are not destiny - there is a gene called the "warrior gene" that can make people function differently in times of stress (more cool under pressure) but they may also tend to be more aggressive. I saw a documentary and they tested navy seals, bikers, gang bangers and Buddhist monks for the gene. The group with the highest frequency of the gene was the MONKS - so even though they have the gene they did not display those traits.

As far as this topic goes, the biggest thing that ages people is the sun (even more than the smokes) so if you stay out of the sun or wear protection daily you are going to get less damage than someone is outside daily without sun protection. The "damage" to skin is things like larger pores, wrinkles, loss of collagen etc.

I found this cool article where they actually studied twins and compared how old they lookd - it has pictures too. Perfect example of lifestyle resulting in differences.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0008021

I'm going to check out the links -- thanks! But reading your post reminded me of a news story I heard yesterday that a study showed infants pick up and "feel" their mother's fear. If I'm relaying this accurately, it's so the mother can teach the offspring how to react in times of fear. I'm going to really look it up rather than blathering on not sure of what I'm talking about. :-)

Thanks again.

Re: Genes vs Routine: How Much of Your Skin Aging Can You Actually Control?

MarenSeattle — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 01:11:20 GMT

On 7/31/2014 HappyDaze said:
NCN's DNA serum is also suppose to support the telomeres as well. I've always been curious about it. I just haven't researched if anything topical can truly support telomeres in the way that these products claim. Would you happen to know the ingredients of the Isomers one?

I haven't located it yet -- her site seriously needs updating. Plus, I keep getting sidetracked, but eventually...

I did Google "telemeres" and of course glanced at an article that talked about "unregulated may cause cancer" and just took a break. Overload. But definitely something to look into.

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spot555 — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 01:22:42 GMT

Of course good genes are a HUGE factor, I've seen people 20 years old who already have extremely pronounced lines in their faces. And in my high school class, there was a teenage boy who was already balding & had some gray hair!

But we can lessen or soften the look by what's been mentioned above.

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lolakimono — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 01:25:13 GMT

Here are your twins:

Susan (right) smoked for 16 years and likes to sunbathe, spending as much time as she can in the sun. On the other hand, younger-looking twin Jeanne (left) has made it a point to get as little UV exposure as possible. Age: 61

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myshell624 — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 01:31:29 GMT

Is the Renovage Serum the one from Isomers that she talks about telomeres?

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sidsmom — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 01:32:41 GMT

1st thing I noticed.....all the "indoor" girls were a little heavier. Extra weight will eliminate SOME of the small wrinkles. "Routine" will take care of the external skin....DNA takes care of the sub-surface skin & muscles. If your Mom had jowls, there's a good chance you will too...no matter how many $$$ you spend on skincare.

The luminosity & texture of the outside skin is what keeps you young looking.

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HonnyBrown — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 02:31:58 GMT

I think genetics gives us a good foundation. We have to do our part to maintain the good features.

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HappyDaze — Fri, 01 Aug 2014 02:34:08 GMT

On 7/31/2014 sidsmom said:
1st thing I noticed.....all the "indoor" girls were a little heavier. Extra weight will eliminate SOME of the small wrinkles. "Routine" will take care of the external skin....DNA takes care of the sub-surface skin & muscles. If your Mom had jowls, there's a good chance you will too...no matter how many $$$ you spend on skincare.

The luminosity & texture of the outside skin is what keeps you young looking.

I totally don't understand this statement as clearly all the women that spent more time outside did not look younger and had terrible luminosity and texture.