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virgosun — Sun, 13 Jul 2014 22:49:46 GMT

My last post got poofed Decided to boost my Vit C Serum and Lightening Cream by adding my Glytone 4%hydriquinone cream. What do you think? I've been using the serum and cream for several weeks and only notice a very slight difference. Hoping this will ramp it up!

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virgosun — Sun, 13 Jul 2014 23:02:21 GMT

If any ASDM ladies have any input your thoughts are also welcome

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myshell624 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 00:33:40 GMT

Hey virgosun. I don't think it's a bad idea at all. It can take 6-8 weeks to see any change with any lightening product. The lightening cream did get rid of some of my lighter spots but it didn't phase my darker ones. I just added in a .1% Retin-a gel and a generic Triluma which contains 4% hydroquinone. I'm going to continue using the lightening cream too and I wouldn't be without my vitamin c serum. Good luck! Hopefully, we will both be spot free before long:-)

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Katluvr58 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 01:51:21 GMT

I suggest using a retinol or retin-a product at night with HQ and the lightening cream during the day with your Vit C. Truthfully retin-a will work better if you have a doctor you can get a script from. Otherwise go under the ASDM site and either myshell or I can get some info to you if you want to get some. When I was trying to get rid of my vitiligo spots I had a script for a bleach and it was working slowly (it was working though) when I added retin-a I was spot free in a month. Otherwise ASDM has a 2% Retinol Cream. Good luck. Sorry, I didn't see this sooner.

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MarenSeattle — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 02:28:22 GMT

On 7/13/2014 myshell624 said:
Hey virgosun. I don't think it's a bad idea at all. It can take 6-8 weeks to see any change with any lightening product. The lightening cream did get rid of some of my lighter spots but it didn't phase my darker ones. I just added in a .1% Retin-a gel and a generic Triluma which contains 4% hydroquinone. I'm going to continue using the lightening cream too and I wouldn't be without my vitamin c serum. Good luck! Hopefully, we will both be spot free before long:-)

myshell, do you mix the Mela Forte and the Retin-A together, or layer them?

I'm thinking that after I finish this tube of MF, I'm going to use ASDM's 4% HQ with my 0.05% Retin A, and have been wondering whether to mix or not.

Kat, I know you're a mad scientist when it comes to combos -- would you layer or mix?

Thanks!

And sorry for hijacking your thread, virgosun. :-)

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myshell624 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 02:39:39 GMT

On 7/13/2014 MarenSeattle said:
On 7/13/2014 myshell624 said:
Hey virgosun. I don't think it's a bad idea at all. It can take 6-8 weeks to see any change with any lightening product. The lightening cream did get rid of some of my lighter spots but it didn't phase my darker ones. I just added in a .1% Retin-a gel and a generic Triluma which contains 4% hydroquinone. I'm going to continue using the lightening cream too and I wouldn't be without my vitamin c serum. Good luck! Hopefully, we will both be spot free before long:-)

myshell, do you mix the Mela Forte and the Retin-A together, or layer them?

I'm thinking that after I finish this tube of MF, I'm going to use ASDM's 4% HQ with my 0.05% Retin A, and have been wondering whether to mix or not.

Kat, I know you're a mad scientist when it comes to combos -- would you layer or mix?

Thanks!

And sorry for hijacking your thread, virgosun. :-)

Did you get the email I sent you from Rebecca? I sent it to your main email or at least I thought I did. LOL. I'm going by what Rebecca told me. I cleanse and tone, wait about thirty minutes, apply my Retin-a and then the MF. I only use the Retin-a every other night and I'm using the MF AM and PM. I would email Rebecca if I were you. I really don't know if you could cocktail them or not.

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Katluvr58 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:06:24 GMT

Do Not Cocktail!! Layer them separately. I am the queen of cocktailing and I always mess up my skin, lol. Although I have mixed the firming serum and the peptide with no bad results yet. I would not cocktail retin with anything, it could come back to bite you in the b*tt.

Myshell according to a derm that I was reading on line she gave a 20 minute wait time. You may want to apply retin after 20, wait 10 minutes and do the MF. Just a thought. I don't wait because I use benoquin first wait a couple minutes and use the retin. That is because someone is always yelling at me to get out of the bathroom. Even in the middle of the night. No one will use the other bathroom because my mother has that raised toilet seat.

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MarenSeattle — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:09:32 GMT

On 7/13/2014 myshell624 said:
On 7/13/2014 MarenSeattle said:
On 7/13/2014 myshell624 said:
Hey virgosun. I don't think it's a bad idea at all. It can take 6-8 weeks to see any change with any lightening product. The lightening cream did get rid of some of my lighter spots but it didn't phase my darker ones. I just added in a .1% Retin-a gel and a generic Triluma which contains 4% hydroquinone. I'm going to continue using the lightening cream too and I wouldn't be without my vitamin c serum. Good luck! Hopefully, we will both be spot free before long:-)

myshell, do you mix the Mela Forte and the Retin-A together, or layer them?

I'm thinking that after I finish this tube of MF, I'm going to use ASDM's 4% HQ with my 0.05% Retin A, and have been wondering whether to mix or not.

Kat, I know you're a mad scientist when it comes to combos -- would you layer or mix?

Thanks!

And sorry for hijacking your thread, virgosun. :-)

Did you get the email I sent you from Rebecca? I sent it to your main email or at least I thought I did. LOL. I'm going by what Rebecca told me. I cleanse and tone, wait about thirty minutes, apply my Retin-a and then the MF. I only use the Retin-a every other night and I'm using the MF AM and PM. I would email Rebecca if I were you. I really don't know if you could cocktail them or not.

Oh -- it never even occurred to me to use the MF 2 x daily. I was going by the TriLuma directions which has a higher strength of Retin A. So I'll do that for now. I'll go look for the email -- both places -- thanks!!

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MarenSeattle — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:12:42 GMT

On 7/13/2014 Katluvr58 said:
Do Not Cocktail!! Layer them separately. I am the queen of cocktailing and I always mess up my skin, lol. Although I have mixed the firming serum and the peptide with no bad results yet. I would not cocktail retin with anything, it could come back to bite you in the b*tt.

Myshell according to a derm that I was reading on line she gave a 20 minute wait time. You may want to apply retin after 20, wait 10 minutes and do the MF. Just a thought. I don't wait because I use benoquin first wait a couple minutes and use the retin. That is because someone is always yelling at me to get out of the bathroom. Even in the middle of the night. No one will use the other bathroom because my mother has that raised toilet seat.

I KNOW you're the Queen of Cocktailing, Your Royal Highness. :-) So I won't cocktail these.

So, when I've finished with the MF and switch to the ASDM 4% HQ (that's my thinking at this point, anyway) -- still Retin-A first, then the HQ on top? I may decide to just do the R-A at night, the HQ during the day, too. It's never simple, is it?

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virgosun — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:20:28 GMT

katluvr not clear if you r talking about helping me get retin-a or suggesting the asdm 2% retinol cream? I have retiniacin from Isomers, would that work? otherwise I could order the 2% cream if you think that is effective. Doesn't NCN also have some good retinol creams/serums too? TIA

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myshell624 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:21:25 GMT

On 7/13/2014 Katluvr58 said:
Do Not Cocktail!! Layer them separately. I am the queen of cocktailing and I always mess up my skin, lol. Although I have mixed the firming serum and the peptide with no bad results yet. I would not cocktail retin with anything, it could come back to bite you in the b*tt.

Myshell according to a derm that I was reading on line she gave a 20 minute wait time. You may want to apply retin after 20, wait 10 minutes and do the MF. Just a thought. I don't wait because I use benoquin first wait a couple minutes and use the retin. That is because someone is always yelling at me to get out of the bathroom. Even in the middle of the night. No one will use the other bathroom because my mother has that raised toilet seat.

I did wait a few minutes in between the Retin-a and MF cream. Do you think I should wait after I apply the MF cream before I apply my oil and moisturizer?

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Katluvr58 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:31:19 GMT

On 7/13/2014 virgosun said:
katluvr not clear if you r talking about helping me get retin-a or suggesting the asdm 2% retinol cream? I have retiniacin from Isomers, would that work? otherwise I could order the 2% cream if you think that is effective. Doesn't NCN also have some good retinol creams/serums too? TIA

I have a very reliable lady who supplies my retin-a, benoquin and the products myshell and maren use. She is kind, reliable, knowledgeable and is very prompt with the products. It's just a work around to get the info to you. Try your retiniacin first and if that doe not work let one of us know and we will give you a work around for the retin. I am sorry I do not know anything about NCN. I just honestly believe that the retin gives the bleaching product that kick it needs.

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Katluvr58 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:32:41 GMT

On 7/13/2014 myshell624 said:
On 7/13/2014 Katluvr58 said:
Do Not Cocktail!! Layer them separately. I am the queen of cocktailing and I always mess up my skin, lol. Although I have mixed the firming serum and the peptide with no bad results yet. I would not cocktail retin with anything, it could come back to bite you in the b*tt.

Myshell according to a derm that I was reading on line she gave a 20 minute wait time. You may want to apply retin after 20, wait 10 minutes and do the MF. Just a thought. I don't wait because I use benoquin first wait a couple minutes and use the retin. That is because someone is always yelling at me to get out of the bathroom. Even in the middle of the night. No one will use the other bathroom because my mother has that raised toilet seat.

I did wait a few minutes in between the Retin-a and MF cream. Do you think I should wait after I apply the MF cream before I apply my oil and moisturizer?

I do not wait, but that is because of bathroom time. Try it both ways and if no problem, don't wait.

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Irishrose136 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 03:47:17 GMT

Hey Maren,

Sorry for this O/T post but I've been trying to find a chance to post to you.

I got a chance to try the Missha #13. Very good coverage, but it made me look like a close cousin of Casper, ya know, the Friendly Ghost?! It wasn't so much a light pinkish-beige as a whitish-beige. Like an American trying to pass as a geisha.

I haven't tried the other one, #21 or #23? If need be, I can try by mixing the #13 & darker one. I'll let you know. Can't walk around scaring the little children (it reminded me of a Halloween mask).

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Katluvr58 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:01:18 GMT

On 7/13/2014 Irishrose136 said:
Hey Maren,

Sorry for this O/T post but I've been trying to find a chance to post to you.

I got a chance to try the Missha #13. Very good coverage, but it made me look like a close cousin of Casper, ya know, the Friendly Ghost?! It wasn't so much a light pinkish-beige as a whitish-beige. Like an American trying to pass as a geisha.

I haven't tried the other one, #21 or #23? If need be, I can try by mixing the #13 & darker one. I'll let you know. Can't walk around scaring the little children (it reminded me of a Halloween mask).

Sorry but now you know how pale I am, lol. Try some bronzer over it till you get something darker or get #23 and mix if necessary. Thank you for the laugh.

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virgosun — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:08:05 GMT

katluvr would love to try the real retin-a. let me know how we can be in touch. tia!

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Irishrose136 — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:13:08 GMT

On 7/13/2014 Katluvr58 said:
On 7/13/2014 Irishrose136 said:
Hey Maren,

Sorry for this O/T post but I've been trying to find a chance to post to you.

I got a chance to try the Missha #13. Very good coverage, but it made me look like a close cousin of Casper, ya know, the Friendly Ghost?! It wasn't so much a light pinkish-beige as a whitish-beige. Like an American trying to pass as a geisha.

I haven't tried the other one, #21 or #23? If need be, I can try by mixing the #13 & darker one. I'll let you know. Can't walk around scaring the little children (it reminded me of a Halloween mask).

Sorry but now you know how pale I am, lol. Try some bronzer over it till you get something darker or get #23 and mix if necessary. Thank you for the laugh.

Anytime, Kat! Anytime!

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MarenSeattle — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:16:23 GMT

On 7/13/2014 Irishrose136 said:
Hey Maren,

Sorry for this O/T post but I've been trying to find a chance to post to you.

I got a chance to try the Missha #13. Very good coverage, but it made me look like a close cousin of Casper, ya know, the Friendly Ghost?! It wasn't so much a light pinkish-beige as a whitish-beige. Like an American trying to pass as a geisha.

I haven't tried the other one, #21 or #23? If need be, I can try by mixing the #13 & darker one. I'll let you know. Can't walk around scaring the little children (it reminded me of a Halloween mask).

When I first put it on (and I tend to be heavy-handed) I had that white/gray look, but I kept on rubbing it in and it really does self-adjust. If I didn't have this Tria Tan it probably would have been perfect, but the #21 was a much better choice. It was still a bit alarming when I first put it on, but "adjusted" beautifully. Let us know!

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virgosun — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:25:31 GMT

maren the message is on it's way tia!

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MarenSeattle — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:25:41 GMT

On 7/13/2014 Katluvr58 said:
On 7/13/2014 myshell624 said:
On 7/13/2014 Katluvr58 said:
Do Not Cocktail!! Layer them separately. I am the queen of cocktailing and I always mess up my skin, lol. Although I have mixed the firming serum and the peptide with no bad results yet. I would not cocktail retin with anything, it could come back to bite you in the b*tt.

Myshell according to a derm that I was reading on line she gave a 20 minute wait time. You may want to apply retin after 20, wait 10 minutes and do the MF. Just a thought. I don't wait because I use benoquin first wait a couple minutes and use the retin. That is because someone is always yelling at me to get out of the bathroom. Even in the middle of the night. No one will use the other bathroom because my mother has that raised toilet seat.

I did wait a few minutes in between the Retin-a and MF cream. Do you think I should wait after I apply the MF cream before I apply my oil and moisturizer?

I do not wait, but that is because of bathroom time. Try it both ways and if no problem, don't wait.

When I got a prescription for Retin-A years ago, the instructions were to wait 20 minutes. It was burned into my brain because I was clock-watching -- I was impatient! The reason is to make sure our skin is completely dry to avoid irritation. When I was using the Tria, I'd THINK my skin was totally dry, but I could tell if it wasn't because it would kind of drag across my face. So I'm thinking the 20 min is a good guideline.