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Class action re: zip code collection in CA

ennui1 — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 05:21:35 GMT

"California stores may face a surge of class action lawsuits in the wake of the California Supreme Court’s ruling that it’s illegal for store clerks to ask customers for their ZIP codes during credit card transactions."

I saw the notice in the paper, for customers of MAC free standing stores.

It's complicated, but www.cosmeticzipcodesettlement.com

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

Snowpuppy — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 05:36:24 GMT

Kohl's used to collect this at the checkout as well as some outlet malls I've been to.

I never give that out. Not a legit part of the transaction.

I also never provide my phone # at a checkout.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

Irishrose136 — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 05:39:34 GMT

What's the downside of giving your zip code when shopping with a cc?

Certain stores here in PA did it at one time. I haven't gone there lately so I don't know if it's still done or not.

So say a clerk asks me for my zip code...........Can't I just answer ""I don't give out my personal information. Thank you for understanding.""

What is so important here to start a class-action lawsuit?

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

ennui1 — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 07:20:32 GMT

On 7/3/2014 Irishrose136 said:
What is so important here to start a class-action lawsuit?

The CA Supreme Court ruled that it's illegal.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

PinkMomi — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 09:05:16 GMT

Why don't they just inform stores that it is illegal to ask for zip codes, if it is so, instead of wasting the courts time with class action lawsuits? A bunch of lawyers trying to gauge money out of honest businesses… Too many lawyers are "class action" crazy as it is easy money for them and they take home the bulk of the settlement. JMHO

Actually if they really want to sue anyone, they should be suing the credit card companies because their systems ask for a customers zip code when a transaction is being made. The cc machines at our gas stations ask for our zip codes, or a clerk will ask for it (being prompted by the machine) when he/she has to manually input the card's numbers to be used as a verification.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

Wackers3 — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 10:55:18 GMT

Maybe it's just here in AZ but I've never been asked for any personal info when using my cc. Just not standard procedure to request any further information.

If the cc companies are prompting the stores to ask for this additional info then there isn't a chance in he** that a class action suit against any stores would be successful - and I agree that the whole class action suit threat gets pretty tiresome.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

BichonEmma — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:39:28 GMT

The link wouldn't work for me so I googled ca credit card zip code law and the 1st hit was a new article from 2011 saying it was illegal because it violated consumer privacy laws. I would say that if the Mac stores continued to collect after the 2011 ruling then they deserve to be prosecuted. Cannot imagine what they'd hope to get out of a class a action suit

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

BichonEmma — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:41:15 GMT

Oh and from the article it was in the la times if you want to check yourself "The ruling still allows ZIP Codes to be collected under certain circumstances, such as at gas station pumps where the information is requested for security reasons and in transactions that involve shipping. The law also allows ZIP Codes to be requested when a credit card is used as a deposit or for a cash advance, the court said."

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

HonnyBrown — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 12:59:06 GMT

Retailers don't check that the signature matches the one on the credit card, but they'll collect zip codes for marketing purposes.

Just my thoughts.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

jackthebear — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:17:18 GMT

On 7/4/2014 HonnyBrown said:
Retailers don't check that the signature matches the one on the credit card, but they'll collect zip codes for marketing purposes.

Just my thoughts.

DAta Brokers want the info

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

bluejeansluvr — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:24:12 GMT

I get an error message when I click the link.

Interesting. I'll be waiting for my check! What do you have to do to get a check? lol

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

curlywhitedog — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:37:09 GMT

Although I've never given it a second thought, now that you mention it, sales clerks do ask for it all the time. I'm going to consider whether, going forward, I'm going to continue providing it.

What I hate is when returning an item I am forced to sign my name and give an address and a phone number, something I am loathe to do and seldom agree to. If I have a receipt for my purchase, the tags are still on the product and it hasn't been used then I say NO, I won't provide you with that info. Sales clerks are always surprised when I say no and they say it's store policy to which I always respond "but I don't work for the store" and I point to their refund policy which I am in compliance with, that the item is being returned within the suggested time limit, that the tags are still on, that the item has not been used and that I have a sales receipt...those rules are always hanging prominently by at the CS counter and as long as I comply with those rules I do not expect to be hassled for personal information.

There's just way too much intrusion in our lives, either by the government or by entitles that are not entitled to but want to collect personal data to use to their own advantage and I won't have it. I just won't.

Maria

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

151949 — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:38:39 GMT

Seriously? Someone sued a store over this? OMG.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

HonnyBrown — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:48:32 GMT

Happy, in California, lawyers find class action lawsuits for everything under the sun.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

bluejeansluvr — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:57:19 GMT

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

Tigriss — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:58:20 GMT

I always give my state reps zip and phone number. This means they get his info and call them not me!

As for the class action suit, well, there will be far too many people to participate, so the lawyers will end up with the bulk of the money!

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

bluejeansluvr — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:59:41 GMT

tigriss you're smart!

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

bluejeansluvr — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:06:29 GMT

On 7/4/2014 curlywhitedog said:
Although I've never given it a second thought, now that you mention it, sales clerks do ask for it all the time. I'm going to consider whether, going forward, I'm going to continue providing it.

What I hate is when returning an item I am forced to sign my name and give an address and a phone number, something I am loathe to do and seldom agree to. If I have a receipt for my purchase, the tags are still on the product and it hasn't been used then I say NO, I won't provide you with that info. Sales clerks are always surprised when I say no and they say it's store policy to which I always respond "but I don't work for the store" and I point to their refund policy which I am in compliance with, that the item is being returned within the suggested time limit, that the tags are still on, that the item has not been used and that I have a sales receipt...those rules are always hanging prominently by at the CS counter and as long as I comply with those rules I do not expect to be hassled for personal information.

There's just way too much intrusion in our lives, either by the government or by entitles that are not entitled to but want to collect personal data to use to their own advantage and I won't have it. I just won't.

Maria

Unfortunately, this is an attitude that the younger generation does not share. You must be about my age. We care about these things, and respect and care about privacy -- ours and others'. But this younger generation never heard of such nonsense.....with f acebook this and twitter that. They think nothing of putting out all their information. I am always cautioning my grown children about giving out too much personal information.....and they look at me like I am insane.

I am not sure why this younger generation has been so free and generous with personal information and why our generation is hesitant to provide it. It's really a change in attitude and personal privacies, and very interesting. These young 20 somethings just do not understand the meaning of privacy in anything. It's hard to understand sometimes.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

curlywhitedog — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:10:13 GMT

On 7/4/2014 imaclotheshog said:
On 7/4/2014 curlywhitedog said:
Although I've never given it a second thought, now that you mention it, sales clerks do ask for it all the time. I'm going to consider whether, going forward, I'm going to continue providing it.

What I hate is when returning an item I am forced to sign my name and give an address and a phone number, something I am loathe to do and seldom agree to. If I have a receipt for my purchase, the tags are still on the product and it hasn't been used then I say NO, I won't provide you with that info. Sales clerks are always surprised when I say no and they say it's store policy to which I always respond "but I don't work for the store" and I point to their refund policy which I am in compliance with, that the item is being returned within the suggested time limit, that the tags are still on, that the item has not been used and that I have a sales receipt...those rules are always hanging prominently by at the CS counter and as long as I comply with those rules I do not expect to be hassled for personal information.

There's just way too much intrusion in our lives, either by the government or by entitles that are not entitled to but want to collect personal data to use to their own advantage and I won't have it. I just won't.

Maria

Unfortunately, this is an attitude that the younger generation does not share. You must be about my age. We care about these things, and respect and care about privacy -- ours and others'. But this younger generation never heard of such nonsense.....with f acebook this and twitter that. They think nothing of putting out all their information. I am always cautioning my grown children about giving out too much personal information.....and they look at me like I am insane.

I am not sure why this younger generation has been so free and generous with personal information and why our generation is hesitant to provide it. It's really a change in attitude and personal privacies, and very interesting. These young 20 somethings just do not understand the meaning of privacy in anything. It's hard to understand sometimes.

Re: Class action re: zip code collection in CA

kittyloo — Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:17:23 GMT

I don't see what the big deal is? You are basically only "telling" them you live in Boise, or Chicago. How is this a invasion of your privacy? I always thought that they used the zip to see where you were coming from to shop.

JCP's new thing is they ask for your phone # at checkout, to see if you have rewards points. for every $100 in points in a month, you get a $10 off coupon. Really haven't had anyone even blink when asking for phone #. just sayin.