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SahmIam — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 21:57:08 GMT

WEN everything. Fig and S/B on the roots (due to menthol issue). Air dry. Hot and humid. LONG, thick, heavy, coarse, colored hair.

FRIZZZZZZZZ. I don't know what to do. I put in a braid at night. Frizz. I use oils at night. Frizz. I CC every other day and use FIG as my leave in. Frizz. I use the styling cream and spray together in the shower. Frizz. And it's not a little frizz... it's a HUGE BALL OF FRIZZ.

Help. Me. Please. : (

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jurby — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:09:51 GMT

How long is your hair and how many pumps of styling cream are you using? Chaz has said that if you air dry, to use more styling cream as extra styling cream will help fight frizz better when air drying (ie. if you normally use 1 pump when blow drying, use 2 pumps when air drying). Also, are you towel drying before or after adding styling products? If you towel dry before adding styling products, don't. Add styling products to soaking wet hair first and then towel dry.

My hair used to frizz really badly and it took a while for me to break myself of towel drying before adding styling products (kind of biting your nails - it can take a lot of willpower to stop a habit you've done for years).

You can always call Chaz's salon for help. (323) 467-6444

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Reva — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:15:35 GMT

Have you tried a good flat iron on your hair? I have naturally wavy/frizzy hair and invested in a good flat iron several years ago and can't believe how it transforms my hair. You don't have to go stick straight...the good irons can give you a gentle bend to the hair. My hair in past my shoulders and the flat iron keeps it smooth 95% of the time in humid weather. Sometimes I need to run it through if I get caught in the rain. Reva

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Nailsnob67 — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:15:52 GMT

I would call Chaz for help!!!! You might try tea tree cc and use wen mousse!

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Harpa — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:17:56 GMT

That was my frustration, too, with WEN. I tried every which way, and most of the formulas, but finally had to give it up. I'm so happy I did. I don't get any frizz now -- zero, nada! But you may find a solution other than that. (I did like WEN for other reasons.) Alas!

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santorini — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:22:35 GMT

I bought the OTO mousse/styling cream and used it this morning. Oh my gosh, I am a frizzy mess today. Had to put it in a ponytail to hide some of the frizz.

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expatgal — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:30:49 GMT

I've battled frizz my entire life and I can offer the following suggestions:

- Be sure to leave-in some conditioner after cleansing (WEN or something else). Frizz is simply your hair looking for moisture.

- DO NOT FLAT IRON! This robs hair of moisture and the moment you hit humidity, you'll soon learn it was all for nothing. Throw the thing away!

- While cleansed and conditioned hair is sopping wet (in shower is when I do this) apply a firm hold gel (silicone free) to all your hair. You can use a shower comb to make sure you get it all, or scrunch in the gel in large sections of your hair. Then scrunch out some of the water lightly with a microfiber towel.

- Never touch your hair with a standard terry towel! Always use a microfiber towel, or even paper towels.

- Define your part, shake your hair loose from your scalp, and if possible, air dry. If not possible, use a diffuser on your dryer on low heat/speed.

- Important: Do not touch your hair at all while drying. It will encourage frizz. Once hair is 95% dry, if your gel has left some crunch, gently scrunch it out with your hands. That gel cast is protecting your hair from frizz while it dries.

All this is part of the "curly girl" routine I use and my frizz is non-existent for the first time in my life. Just remember frizz is searching for moisture.

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DoeADear — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:33:39 GMT

Instead of air drying, blow dry with a round brush like Chaz shows us and your hair will look beautiful. It's hard not to have frizz when you just air dry, no matter what product/brand you use.

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VaBelle35 — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:34:44 GMT

I'm in one of the humidity belts and I am finding this year that the Finishing Cream is my friend. I am using this instead of SC.

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santorini — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:38:12 GMT

On 7/3/2014 DoeADear said:
Instead of air drying, blow dry with a round brush like Chaz shows us and your hair will look beautiful. It's hard not to have frizz when you just air dry, no matter what product/brand you use.

I have no frizz when I use Carol's Daughter's hair butter and hair balm. I just decided to try something new. I guess it's just not for me.

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Desertdi — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 22:54:32 GMT

Pony tail with a faux-hair wrap.

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MandySays — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:06:04 GMT

On 7/3/2014 VaBelle35 said:
I'm in one of the humidity belts and I am finding this year that the Finishing Cream is my friend. I am using this instead of SC.

Do you use this on soaking wet hair instead of the SC or on dry hair?

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Harpa — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:14:51 GMT

On 7/3/2014 expatgal said:
Just remember frizz is searching for moisture.

I would really like to understand, and I don't know if anyone can explain it...when I used Fig, my hair was the frizziest worst! Fig is supposed to be the most moisturizing. If this premise is correct, then I really don't understand why I was battling frizz after using Fig.

Also, when I used any of the flavored cleansing conditioners as a leave-in, that also seemed to exacerbate the frizz problem.

I don't have curly hair, just normal.

Anyway...thanks, expatgal, for your suggestions. All I know is that I don't have frizz problems now. After S&C (well, not just any kind, but still...) I still use Chaz's styling creme as he directs, and I blow dry with his round brush.

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VaBelle35 — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:20:25 GMT

On 7/3/2014 MandySays said:
On 7/3/2014 VaBelle35 said:
I'm in one of the humidity belts and I am finding this year that the Finishing Cream is my friend. I am using this instead of SC.

Do you use this on soaking wet hair instead of the SC or on dry hair?

I use it on dry hair.

Chaz had said when it debuted not to use it on wet hair (and you know some of us tried it anyway because we're like that), but I like it on dry hair.

And I will say that my second day hair rocks when I use it.

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VaBelle35 — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:21:51 GMT

On 7/3/2014 Harpa said:
On 7/3/2014 expatgal said:
Just remember frizz is searching for moisture.

I would really like to understand, and I don't know if anyone can explain it...when I used Fig, my hair was the frizziest worst! Fig is supposed to be the most moisturizing. If this premise is correct, then I really don't understand why I was battling frizz after using Fig.

Someone posted recently on another thread about Fig and glycerin and humitidy. Let me see if I can find that post.

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VaBelle35 — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:27:15 GMT

WenGirl4206/05/2014 at 10:09 AM

POM vs FIG thread:

It depends what's causing your frizz. I have coarse, dry, curly hair and I have to be careful with the Fig when it's very humid. Fig has a lot of glycerin in it, so I can't use it alone as my leave-in in very humid weather. I either add oil to seal the moisture into (and out of) my hair, or I switch to another conditioner with less glycerin just for the leave-in step.

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Harpa — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:29:29 GMT

Thanks, VaBelle!

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SahmIam — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:47:31 GMT

THANK YOU LADIES!!!!

To answer a few questions:

1) No towel drying. I use a micro-fiber hair cloth.

2) My hair is 28 inches long (give or take).

3) 8 pumps of the styling cream mixed with 8 sprays of the styling spray.

4) I have a hot iron but my goal this summer is NO HEAT. Yes, a hot iron would do the trick but....

5) I follow the curly girl method and do apply products to soaking wet hair.

The fact that I have wavy to curly hair doesn't help. It looks like c*r*a*p, to be honest. It feels like silk, the color is much richer too. I am debating cutting off 4-6 inches as the lower section of hair looks the worst but the fizzes on top ain't too great : (

No idea about Fig and the glycerin!! I'll have to play around with products, I guess. POM did nothing for my hair, Lavender gave lots of volume but worse frizz.

This shouldn't be so hard: having great hair, you know? *sigh*

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Suebdoo — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:52:11 GMT

That happened to me when I 1st started WEN. I almost gave up but I called the salon #. Turns out I wasn't using even close to the amount I should have been. I was using less than half of the amount. Once I used the right amount it made all the difference in the world !!! This happened to me again after a few months and I thought it was the Fig because I had just started using it. Well my hair had grown so much that I needed more again !!! Now I just always use more than I need to ( according to the bottle recommendations). Why don't you try using more and see what happens and then worry about styling products adjustments. Also like someone said.......leave in and sc on soaking wet hair. Good luck !!

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MAmom — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:52:29 GMT

I have shoulder length, thick, spiral curly hair. If it's very humid, my hair frizzes. WEN or no WEN. I don't blow dry or flat iron,( takes way too long & it's too hot out to bother! ) I always air dry. I use the styling creme & mousse. This is the hair God Gave me, So I stick with the routine I use on the low humidity days when my hair looks fabulous! I think we are our own worst critics. I may think my hair looks hideous but others may think it looks great because of the curls!

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