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Horrible "11" lines"

bunk — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:07:31 GMT

I am desperate to get rid of my "11" line between my brows. My dermatologist said he wouldn't use botox because I have numerous allergies to a lot of things. What products out there actually work? He said nothing, but there must be something!!!!!

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Sunnycorle — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:14:13 GMT

I was going to say botox. I don't really think anything else really works. Good Luck on your search and if I hear of anything I will come back. I just had botox and it was a breeze but I don't have allergies to anything but a kitty cat.

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Shelbelle — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:17:52 GMT

I have to agree, nothing topical has worked for me , not even these magic potions advertised for deep wrinkles. Never tried Botox, but I am certain it will work!!!

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islandgrrl — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:21:23 GMT

Funny you should mention this issue. I don't have many lines on my face but my 11 lines are quite pronounced. Haven't wanted to do botox for a series of reasons. I am now on day four in my use of Frownies -- in short they are facial patches that are supposed to retrain those expression muscles to flatten out. Check out the comments on Makeup Alley. I am very pleasantly surprised how well it has worked so far. But as I said it is only day four.

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Tzu4u — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:23:10 GMT

Try a derma-roller. Inexpensive and it works! There are a number of threads here in the forums about it.

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MarenSeattle — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:34:31 GMT

Too bad about the Botox -- I've decided that's the only thing that will really get rid of mine (they're DEEP!). Lisa R says she uses Botox on her 11's and loves the results.</>

And I agree with Wadzilla -- Dermaroller is a good option.

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bunk — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:39:54 GMT

What is a dermaroller and where do you get them?

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Gussie2007 — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:32:27 GMT

On 4/23/2014 islandgrrl said:
Funny you should mention this issue. I don't have many lines on my face but my 11 lines are quite pronounced. Haven't wanted to do botox for a series of reasons. I am now on day four in my use of Frownies -- in short they are facial patches that are supposed to retrain those expression muscles to flatten out. Check out the comments on Makeup Alley. I am very pleasantly surprised how well it has worked so far. But as I said it is only day four.

For the past two months I've been using Band-Aid tape over my 11's at night and that has really helped. About an inch of tape each night and it has made a difference that might be similar. I noticed improvement right away and it kept getting better.

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BellaCarro — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:40:34 GMT

On 4/23/2014 bunk said:
What is a dermaroller and where do you get them?

If you search here you will find a lot of very good information. You can also google for info. Check out the research done by Dr. Setterfield. I have his book and have been using a roller for about 3 months with good results.

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aprildreams — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:43:49 GMT

I think they have a juvederm filler that they could use. I was watching a video on YT (I think) about a product by juvederm that they use in cheeks to increase volume (I wouldn't do that)...but I bet they could use it in the 11 lines, too.

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Irshgrl31201 — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:50:54 GMT

The problem even if you get a product that works is that you will continue to make the movements that are causing the 11's in the first place.

I would suggest trying some retin a, and there are a lot of products that encourage collagen production. I have a product called Frownies and while it doesn't do anything to get rid of the 11's it does train you to remember when you are making those movements that cause 11's. I have noticed I have cut down doing those movements a lot since I have been using them. I also have had good luck with the Paulas Choice C15 serum for lines. It really plumps my skin.

Can I ask what you have allergies to? I work as an aesthetician in a derms office. I get free treatments but believe it or not I have not had one injectable. I have an auto immune disease and I started taking heavy duty immunosuppressants in 2009 for it. It wrecked my immune system and I started getting very bad infections from even the smallest cut or any break in skin so I have avoided any injections for that reason. I haven't had an infection in over a year or so I have been thinking about getting a little botox in my 11's too. They aren't too bad but I want to do it for a preventative measure.

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colliegirls — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:55:19 GMT

I had Radiesse for a wedding, it worked very well and lasted 2 years. There was some swelling for about 2 days in the area after the injections but then it looks very natural and smooth.

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lea811 — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 01:16:45 GMT

I only had a "1" instead of "11" but just six days ago had my first botox. Mine was very deep so she filled it with a little bit of Juvederm, too, but I couldn't be happier! It was not painful --I will absolutely do it again when I need it!

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vac — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:20:49 GMT

I really want to try Botox, but I don't know how to go about finding a provider. I'm currently looking for a dermatologist, and I know a lot of them offer Botox, but how do you know you're getting someone who's really good at it? I don't have anyone in my immediate circle who's had Botox, so no help there. Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Did anyone go to a cosmetic surgeon rather than a dermatologist?

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gazelle77 — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:30:36 GMT

Do you have good features to focus on, rather than your 11 lines? Think about all the good things you have in your life. 11 lines will not seem so terrible.

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SuziQ2 — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:32:43 GMT

wrinkle viper from Isomers should help...can get at shophq

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rockydog1 — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 03:50:54 GMT

Frownies will help alot, but will not erase them completely

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MarenSeattle — Thu, 24 Apr 2014 04:13:39 GMT

On 4/23/2014 vaccinia said:
I really want to try Botox, but I don't know how to go about finding a provider. I'm currently looking for a dermatologist, and I know a lot of them offer Botox, but how do you know you're getting someone who's really good at it? I don't have anyone in my immediate circle who's had Botox, so no help there. Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Did anyone go to a cosmetic surgeon rather than a dermatologist?

I'm thinking of joining Emily's list for the reviews, but if not, Just Googling "plastic surgeons in Seattle area" or "facial fillers Seattle" and just start checking out the links. Most who offer these procedures have before and after pics so you can get a sense if he/she does work you consider appealing. THEN google "Dr. Frankenstein reviews" and check out Yelp, etc. At least you might get an idea of who to start with, and the ultimate will be getting a consultation and you'll be able to know if you click and feel comfortable with the provider.