topic Re: Copper Peptide in Beauty

Copper Peptide

fivekiddos — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:39:09 GMT

I want to add copper peptides to my skincare routine. Do you have any suggestions as to a specific brand? When do you use it morning or night? Are there any ingredients it shouldn't be used with such as retinol or AHA?

Thanks for your help!

Re: Copper Peptide

BellaCarro — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:49:55 GMT

I use NCN copper peptide. I use it at night and it should not be mixed with C. Or, apply C and wait a really long time to apply the copper. Whichever brand you decide be sure it is first generation copper peptide. If you Google you'll find lots of info.

Re: Copper Peptide

Wackers3 — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:06:45 GMT

The leading expert on Copper and skincare is a Dr Pickart and his website is loaded with great information. He does make a copper product called SuperCop2X which I have read great reviews on. You will find more than you probably ever wanted to find on Pickart's site but you'll know what to look for and what to not combine it with once you are done.

I was planning on adding NCN's Copper serum in my next order but am going to take a closer look at SuperCop2X also.

I was reading about Copper last night on the Truth-in-Aging website and it was most interesting. I'm a bit surprised that more don't use Copper products as studies have definitely documented it's anti-aging ability on the skin.. Isomers Copper was briefly mentioned but somewhat dismissed for it's formula and effectiveness. They didn't elaborate much about it.

Re: Copper Peptide

myshell624 — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:16:17 GMT

I have Isomers copper p. I am mostly using it cocktailed with their h-pur on my body. I did ask them routine suggestions a while back and they suggested vitamin c in the AM and copper at night. I am not sure if they are not supposed to be used together or not. I would ask whatever company you go with if there is anything it should not be used with.

Re: Copper Peptide

hunter — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:17:29 GMT

On 3/25/2014 BellaCarro said: I use NCN copper peptide. I use it at night and it should not be mixed with C. Or, apply C and wait a really long time to apply the copper. Whichever brand you decide be sure it is first generation copper peptide. If you Google you'll find lots of info.

May I ask what results you have had with the NCN copper peptide? And how long have you been using it? I have been looking at her website at the copper peptide and have contacted her a couple of times trying to get recommendations but she has not answered back.

Re: Copper Peptide

Irishrose136 — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 00:09:25 GMT

On 3/25/2014 hunter said:
On 3/25/2014 BellaCarro said: I use NCN copper peptide. I use it at night and it should not be mixed with C. Or, apply C and wait a really long time to apply the copper. Whichever brand you decide be sure it is first generation copper peptide. If you Google you'll find lots of info.

May I ask what results you have had with the NCN copper peptide? And how long have you been using it? I have been looking at her website at the copper peptide and have contacted her a couple of times trying to get recommendations but she has not answered back.

NCN is moving its headquarters some time now at the end of March and I'm guessing things might be a little frantic.

Re: Copper Peptide

Wackers3 — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 01:01:43 GMT

Copper and Vitamin C don't play well together so they are definitely not to be used at the same time, better one for AM and other for PM. As I recall, copper makes Vit C ineffective so you are wasting any c applied if you also use copper.

Re: Copper Peptide

gammachi1 — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 01:03:17 GMT

I also use NCN and love it! I use mine in the morning but alternate it with the Vitamin C. I swear my skin glows, and that has never happened before. It is hard to explain, but my skin definitely looks better. My fine lines are not as pronounced and my skin seems to have tightened up a bit. My neck lines are also not as pronounced. I am 42 and have had a hard time finding products that work without irritating my skin, and so far NCN products have been awesome. Nanci also recommends taking 1000mg of MSM as well as 1000 mg. Vitamin C to help the copper, which I do. I hope you like it as much as I do.

Re: Copper Peptide

Porcelain — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 01:37:36 GMT

I've used the SuperCop product. It definitely has an effect. If you go with copper peptides, plz do your research on the awkward period. There is one with copper peptides just like with Retin A.

That's because, as you know, copper peptides' purpose is to break down old stiff oxidized and damaged collagen in your skin. It also helps your skin turn over old scar tissue. But that means you can get layers of discoloration and scar showing up on your skin as it surfaces and cycles out. Just be aware and follow the advice of the people who got through those stages.

Re: Copper Peptide

espree — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 02:44:51 GMT

I was at Nordstroms recently to purchase some Armani liquid foundation. The sales consultant told me about the Osmotics brand of skincare and that the Osmotics representive was coming to their store to demonstrate the products. She went on and on about the copper products and when used with a red light produced amazing results. I did not make an appointment as I knew nothing of this line. Has anyone tried this skincare line?

Re: Copper Peptide

BellaCarro — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 03:04:09 GMT

On 3/25/2014 espree said: I was at Nordstroms recently to purchase some Armani liquid foundation. The sales consultant told me about the Osmotics brand of skincare and that the Osmotics representive was coming to their store to demonstrate the products. She went on and on about the copper products and when used with a red light produced amazing results. I did not make an appointment as I knew nothing of this line. Has anyone tried this skincare line?

Yes, and it's pretty good but I wanted a product with less ingredients/more copper so I chose NCN.

Re: Copper Peptide

Valstybaby — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 12:09:40 GMT

On 3/25/2014 espree said: I was at Nordstroms recently to purchase some Armani liquid foundation. The sales consultant told me about the Osmotics brand of skincare and that the Osmotics representive was coming to their store to demonstrate the products. She went on and on about the copper products and when used with a red light produced amazing results. I did not make an appointment as I knew nothing of this line. Has anyone tried this skincare line?

I just bought this and really like it. It's a little expensive but if it works it's worth it. Have had it under a week so I cannot say if it's working but I do think my skin is looking firmer and u Just better.

Re: Copper Peptide

Blondelle — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 13:12:40 GMT

On 3/25/2014 Porcelain said:
I've used the SuperCop product. It definitely has an effect. If you go with copper peptides, plz do your research on the awkward period. There is one with copper peptides just like with Retin A.

That's because, as you know, copper peptides' purpose is to break down old stiff oxidized and damaged collagen in your skin. It also helps your skin turn over old scar tissue. But that means you can get layers of discoloration and scar showing up on your skin as it surfaces and cycles out. Just be aware and follow the advice of the people who got through those stages.

If you remove too much collagen before the skin has a chance to rebuild it, you can also have sagging until the skin catches up. Most of the time it rebuilds but there are some reports on the net of permanent damage from these copper peptides. I don't know if the people used too strong a product for their skin, or too much of them, but they claim to have not misused them. You should be aware of this and do your own research, and make your own decision on using these peptides. They aren't totally harmless. I believe they can firm and improve the skin, but there is also a risk that your skin may not react well to them. I don't think there's much of a problem with the Neoteric product as it doesn't contain a large amount of copper.

Re: Copper Peptide

Harpa — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 13:40:26 GMT

On 3/26/2014 Blondelle said:
On 3/25/2014 Porcelain said:
I've used the SuperCop product. It definitely has an effect. If you go with copper peptides, plz do your research on the awkward period. There is one with copper peptides just like with Retin A.

That's because, as you know, copper peptides' purpose is to break down old stiff oxidized and damaged collagen in your skin. It also helps your skin turn over old scar tissue. But that means you can get layers of discoloration and scar showing up on your skin as it surfaces and cycles out. Just be aware and follow the advice of the people who got through those stages.

If you remove too much collagen before the skin has a chance to rebuild it, you can also have sagging until the skin catches up. Most of the time it rebuilds but there are some reports on the net of permanent damage from these copper peptides. I don't know if the people used too strong a product for their skin, or too much of them, but they claim to have not misused them. You should be aware of this and do your own research, and make your own decision on using these peptides. They aren't totally harmless. I believe they can firm and improve the skin, but there is also a risk that your skin may not react well to them. I don't think there's much of a problem with the Neoteric product as it doesn't contain a large amount of copper.

Blondelle, I also read this, and shied away from copper altogether. (Too many other beneficial plant extracts I would prefer delving into.)

It kind of reminds me of skin needling, that in order for it to work, you have to have good overall health. You build collagen from the inside, and we on the BB tend to forget that since we are highly into topical applications.

Re: Copper Peptide

fivekiddos — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:07:21 GMT

Thank you so much for your knowledge and suggestions. From what I have read, I think I want to start out with a product that doesn't contain a large amount of copper and go from there.

Blondelle, can you tell me the name of the Neoteric product.

Also, I'm going to check out the NCN site. It sounds like they have some wonderful products!

Thanks again for your help!

Re: Copper Peptide

hyacinth003 — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:14:58 GMT

Dr. Jeanette Graf's line on HSN has some copper peptides.

At one time, I used the copper collagen infusion. It leaves your skin feeling wonderful after use.

But, she has a few products of it in her line.

Hyacinth

Re: Copper Peptide

MarenSeattle — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:17:21 GMT

On 3/25/2014 wackers said:
The leading expert on Copper and skincare is a Dr Pickart and his website is loaded with great information. He does make a copper product called SuperCop2X which I have read great reviews on. You will find more than you probably ever wanted to find on Pickart's site but you'll know what to look for and what to not combine it with once you are done.

I was planning on adding NCN's Copper serum in my next order but am going to take a closer look at SuperCop2X also.

I was reading about Copper last night on the Truth-in-Aging website and it was most interesting. I'm a bit surprised that more don't use Copper products as studies have definitely documented it's anti-aging ability on the skin.. Isomers Copper was briefly mentioned but somewhat dismissed for it's formula and effectiveness. They didn't elaborate much about it.

I'm one of the ones who hasn't felt the draw to try it, wackers. Reading Isomers "who is it for" info is always too general -- and repetitive, IMO. Maybe because relatively few are using it, but I've not seen all the rave reviews of say, Vit C or Retinol.

So, sell me on this! Why do YOU use it and what results have you seen?

Thanks!

Re: Copper Peptide

Nightowlz — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:22:38 GMT

I have the larger bottles of Isomers I bought when Manuela had the special pricing on them last year. I use it at night with some of her other products. It works great fro burns. I burned my arm while cooking & I applied it daily. The burning stopped immediately & left no scar. Sometimes I also put it on my arms. I also use it with the H Pur. Sometimes in the morning I don't feel like applying any products but I will at least use some Copper P.

Re: Copper Peptide

zgirl — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:06:37 GMT

For those of you who have used copper peptide products, what results have you seen?

Re: Copper Peptide

Irishrose136 — Sat, 29 Mar 2014 05:31:04 GMT

On 3/28/2014 zgirl said:
For those of you who have used copper peptide products, what results have you seen?

Sorry zgirl. I've only been using NCN's copper tripeptide with EGF for about 10 days.

I use it at night and use my Vit C in the morning. Nanci says that the copper should help to balance oil secretion and reverse "smoker's lines". Those are the 2 things I'll be looking for.

I do have an old scar on the back of my heel from surgery on heel spurs. They cut the Achilles tendon. Left me with a nasty red raised scar which I've learned to live with. Maybe I'll try some copper????