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OT - kokathy, after the fall...

bebe777 — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 03:58:12 GMT

Kokathy, as promised, here's the information my friend shared with me...

She put a number of essential oils on the affected part of her knee because, as a massage therapist, she has them all on hand. btw, I had misunderstood about the boswellia. She suggested that you start with peppermint (to relieve pain), wintergreen (an anti-inflammatory), and marjoram (to help the muscles). She gets her oils through youngerliving dot com because their oils have the greatest therapeutic effects. She said that oils bought through a health store would not have that same therapeutic effect.-- Make sure not to touch your eyes after applying the oils because it will sting them.

In terms of supplements, Omega-3s have the most proven anti-inflammatory effect. The Carlson fish oil (16 oz. liquid size) is the most cost effective and it's a good brand. Vitacost and i-herb sell it for around $30. At this point about 3 gm/day of Omega-3s would be good. Tumeric (active ingredient: cucurmin) is also a great anti-inflammatory. Procaps Labs (which is my favorite line) and Life Extension both have good products. -- I completely agree with her regarding these supplements.

Elevate your legs as much as possible.

Epson salt baths are also a great idea. They will help drain toxins from your body and provide a good source of magnesium.

She also suggested some reiki energy treatments.

From a spiritual perspective, she suggested that you ask yourself the following questions:

* What do I need to surrender to? What do I need to bend my will to? What does this mean to me, both physically and emotionally?

Essentially, you want to be working with your injury and not fighting it.

That said, just take what sounds right for you.

My best wishes for a speedy recovery!!!

-- bebe

P.S. lots of Wen would probably help... but I'm sure you've already got that covered.

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waterdragon — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:58:07 GMT

bumping for Kathy - great tips bebe and I am rooting for that quick recovery with you.

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bebe777 — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:04:35 GMT

On 3/18/2014 waterdragon said:
bumping for Kathy - great tips bebe and I am rooting for that quick recovery with you.

waterdragon, thanks so much. It's good to see you on the board, if only for a short bit.

Sending good thoughts your way,

-- bebe

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waterdragon — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:27:58 GMT

thanks bebe - the good thoughts are surely helping, it's a process and a slow one.

You've got good thoughts coming right back attcha.

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bebe777 — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:30:01 GMT

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Kokathy — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 19:54:16 GMT

I love the topic "after the fall" and I know the answers to the questions because everytime I release myself from anger I've been feeling toward a certain family member, I feel infinitely better. Today I walked 6 blocks total without any issue and I can walk up and down the stairs with no pain and little assitance (although I still limp).

Plus I think I could rub Wen on it! I still have bottles of Winter Vanilla Mint and the Winter Cranberry Mint.

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ANewHue — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:44:27 GMT

Thanks BeBe for posting this info found it very informative and want to try a couple for my issue.

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Kokathy — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:24:42 GMT

This topic keeps making me think of the song by Nelson-""After the Rain"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbYcE1ZzTks

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TheKateMeister — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:27:32 GMT

Hope your knee feels better, Kathy!

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Kokathy — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:07:13 GMT

Thanks Kate! I am going to try rubbing my winter vanilla mint Wen on it, till I can get to Whole Foods to pick up the oils. It's been so busy for me lately. I am looking forward to Sunday, so I can just take a beat and breathe. So much good stuff happening that it makes me forget the bad.

Kate, I also love your Wayne Dyer quote. I love that man.

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TheKateMeister — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:31:47 GMT

On 3/19/2014 Kokathy said:
Thanks Kate! I am going to try rubbing my winter vanilla mint Wen on it, till I can get to Whole Foods to pick up the oils. It's been so busy for me lately. I am looking forward to Sunday, so I can just take a beat and breathe. So much good stuff happening that it makes me forget the bad.

Kate, I also love your Wayne Dyer quote. I love that man.

WVM oil should be really good, based on bebe's info...plus, it smells so divine, it should distract you from the pain a bit :-) Wayne Dyer really is a wonderful man, isn't he? His books have changed me for the better in many, many ways :-)

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bebe777 — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 19:16:24 GMT

On 3/18/2014 Kokathy said:
I love the topic "after the fall" and I know the answers to the questions because everytime I release myself from anger I've been feeling toward a certain family member, I feel infinitely better. Today I walked 6 blocks total without any issue and I can walk up and down the stairs with no pain and little assitance (although I still limp).

Plus I think I could rub Wen on it! I still have bottles of Winter Vanilla Mint and the Winter Cranberry Mint.

Kokathy, I'm glad you liked the topic header. I hope the information helps and that you're on the mend soon.

beaches, I'm glad the info was helpful to you.

-- bebe

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bebe777 — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 19:24:01 GMT

On 3/19/2014 TheKateMeister said:
Hope your knee feels better, Kathy!

When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.

-- Wayne Dyer (quoting nobel-prize physicist, Max Plank, I think)

Kate and Kokathy, last week Wayne Dyer had a new special on PBS for their pledge drive:

* Dr. Wayne Dyer: I Can See Clearly Now

I haven't had a change to sit down and watch it yet, but I'm really looking forward to it. I was curious to know if he if he mentioned his cancer remission that he experienced in conjunction with his long-distance healing through John of God in Brazil.

-- bebe

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TheKateMeister — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 20:04:34 GMT

Oh wow - I knew his new book was coming out soon - I will have to look for him on PBS. I am also interested in his experience with John of God. He spoke with Oprah about it on her Super Soul Sunday program, and it was intriguing. I had the privilege of speaking to him one Sunday evening last year when he was on the Q - I called in and spoke with him; he is just a lovely, lovely man with a wonderful perspective and so much wisdom to impart.

My favorite work of his is "Excuses Begone" - if you haven't read it, I highly recommend it to both of you!

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bebe777 — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:35:08 GMT

On 3/19/2014 TheKateMeister said:
Oh wow - I knew his new book was coming out soon - I will have to look for him on PBS. I am also interested in his experience with John of God. He spoke with Oprah about it on her Super Soul Sunday program, and it was intriguing. I had the privilege of speaking to him one Sunday evening last year when he was on the Q - I called in and spoke with him; he is just a lovely, lovely man with a wonderful perspective and so much wisdom to impart.

My favorite work of his is "Excuses Begone" - if you haven't read it, I highly recommend it to both of you!

Kate, I had been interested in John of God for years because he had been profiled on two episodes of The Oprah Winfrey Show. -- She had a doctor from Harvard Medical School review some of the files from people who had received healings through John of God. The doctor said the results were as good as those found with conventional medicine. In some cases, even conventional medicine couldn't have produced these remissions.

My interest was really peaked when Wayne Dyer was on Super Soul Sunday and talked about his long-distance healing with John of God. After that, Oprah took her film crew down to Abadiana, Brazil and did a one-hour show of The Next Chapter based on the healings provided there through John of God.

A friend of mine went to see John of God this past year and I've had a long-distance healing through John of God. We've each seen remarkable changes.

For myself, I had an abdominal condition (due to a prior internal injury) which my doctor felt would soon require 2-3 emergency surgeries. He didn't share this info with me but just told me to see him again in 3 months. In the interim, I had the long-distance healing. When I next saw my doctor, I asked him to check the area out thoroughly. I could see his confusion as he looked for the area of weakness. Then he told me my condition had stabilized, and that he had expected to have to do 2-3 immediate surgeries. At this point, I don't have to have any additional surgeries.

Then I told him about my experience. I told him that, after I had last seen him, I felt western medicine had done everything that could possibly be done. So I decided to supplement it with another approach which had received a lot of excellent feedback. I wasn't looking for a miracle cure because I feel that is a misinterpretation of the John of God experience. I just surrendered myself to the process, feeling that wiser presences would help to guide my body and spirit. I felt that my illness was an external manifestation of an internal imbalance. So I looked to their wisdom to guide me.

I absolutely believe in western medicine because, if my leg gets broken, I'm going to a doctor to have it set. I just feel my John of God experience enhanced my overall health.

I told my doctor that I didn't know if my stabilized condition was due to John of God, or just a placebo effect. But that if it was a placebo effect, that it was the best darned placebo effect I had ever seen.

At the end of my doctor's appointment, he told me that he didn't have a problem with me having these long-distance healings once or twice a year -- and he's a top-notch specialist. I just about fell off my chair. My doctor knows that I use supplements and use alternative methods to help maintain my health. I've told him about how I essentially crumbed a very large fibriod tumor, over 1.5 year period, by using Nattokinase (from Enzymedica, 1-2 capsules daily) and Maca (from Whole World Botanicals, start and stay low-dose, 1/8 - 1/2 teaspoon daily max.)

What I really admire about John of God is that he is a very humble man who lives very simply. He states that he doesn't do the healing but that up to nine specific different entities will enter his body and provide the healing. John of God is simply a channel for the entities.

As I mentioned earlier, this is not a quick-fix-for-this-medical-condition-right-now experience. People who have a very narrow focus can be disappointed. This experience is more about surrendering yourself to the process and allowing the entities to help you rebalance your body and soul. Our bodies are remarkable, sacred vessels and they can heal themselves if we can get out of our own way. Healing is not the goal, healing is simply the way.

-- bebe

P.S. There is an excellent book about John of God written by Josie Ravenwing.

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TheKateMeister — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:44:43 GMT

Bebe, you are very wise yourself! To realize that Western medicine is not everything is a very hard thing for most people to accept in this day and age. Faith is a huge part of healing, and an essential part, at that. I am so glad to hear that you did not have to go through the surgery, and I am so fascinated by your experience! Did you wear white and follow all of his traditional customs? That's really amazing, and I'm so pleased for you. Did your friend also have good results? Thanks for sharing your very personal story...sending you light, love and blessings!

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bebe777 — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 22:18:48 GMT

On 3/19/2014 TheKateMeister said: Bebe, you are very wise yourself! To realize that Western medicine is not everything is a very hard thing for most people to accept in this day and age. Faith is a huge part of healing, and an essential part, at that. I am so glad to hear that you did not have to go through the surgery, and I am so fascinated by your experience! Did you wear white and follow all of his traditional customs? That's really amazing, and I'm so pleased for you. Did your friend also have good results? Thanks for sharing your very personal story...sending you light, love and blessings!

Kate, Thank you so much for your kind word. I really appreciate them. *s*

For the long-distance healing I did wear all-white. And I followed the instructions to the letter. Especially after Wayne Dyer talked about his mistake with not following the instructions closely enough. I really did feel the effects of surgery while it was happening. I was fine, but it turned out that I could have asked the entities for anesthesia (which would have been a good thing). Most people don't usually feel pain but I did. That said, it was containable and I moved through it.

There is an 8 day basic recovery period, and I sure needed it. I found that my recovery felt much like a post-surgery recovery. I had a gallon of water by my bedside and as well as nuts, fruits & cereal to eat. I took it very slowly for 8-10 days. During this time, I focused on Abadiania on Wed.-Fri. during the times that John of God was in session with everyone. I could really feel in communion with them.

After the first eight days, I started to come back to my usual self. My friend saw more tangible results more quickly. I was a bit disappointed, so I kept reminding myself that each person has their own way. It wasn't until my next doctor's visit that I understood the extent of the blessing I had received. Over time, there has been other, more spiritual rebalancing. I will definitely be doing another long-distance healing in the future.

-- bebe

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TheKateMeister — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 00:50:42 GMT

On 3/19/2014 bebe777 said:
On 3/19/2014 TheKateMeister said: Bebe, you are very wise yourself! To realize that Western medicine is not everything is a very hard thing for most people to accept in this day and age. Faith is a huge part of healing, and an essential part, at that. I am so glad to hear that you did not have to go through the surgery, and I am so fascinated by your experience! Did you wear white and follow all of his traditional customs? That's really amazing, and I'm so pleased for you. Did your friend also have good results? Thanks for sharing your very personal story...sending you light, love and blessings!

Kate, Thank you so much for your kind word. I really appreciate them. *s*

For the long-distance healing I did wear all-white. And I followed the instructions to the letter. Especially after Wayne Dyer talked about his mistake with not following the instructions closely enough. I really did feel the effects of surgery while it was happening. I was fine, but it turned out that I could have asked the entities for anesthesia (which would have been a good thing). Most people don't usually feel pain but I did. That said, it was containable and I moved through it.

There is an 8 day basic recovery period, and I sure needed it. I found that my recovery felt much like a post-surgery recovery. I had a gallon of water by my bedside and as well as nuts, fruits & cereal to eat. I took it very slowly for 8-10 days. During this time, I focused on Abadiania on Wed.-Fri. during the times that John of God was in session with everyone. I could really feel in communion with them.

After the first eight days, I started to come back to my usual self. My friend saw more tangible results more quickly. I was a bit disappointed, so I kept reminding myself that each person has their own way. It wasn't until my next doctor's visit that I understood the extent of the blessing I had received. Over time, there has been other, more spiritual rebalancing. I will definitely be doing another long-distance healing in the future.

-- bebe

Wow, that is so amazing! Your story really has me smiling, not only because it has helped your healing so much, but also because there is so much that is beyond our grasp! It's so amazing to me that spiritual healing can have such an impact. There is so much out there that we will never understand, but in which we must have faith, so we CAN heal. Incredible - I hope you continue to remain in good health! :-)

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Kokathy — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 02:00:16 GMT

I'm going to have to go back through everything you ladies posted but I got to hear Wayne Dyer speak.He was promoting one of his books and I got him to autograph it. I swear it was like magic. The power I felt in that signature was and still is amazing.

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TheKateMeister — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 02:05:01 GMT

On 3/19/2014 Kokathy said:
I'm going to have to go back through everything you ladies posted but I got to hear Wayne Dyer speak.He was promoting one of his books and I got him to autograph it. I swear it was like magic. The power I felt in that signature was and still is amazing.

Wow, so cool, Kathy! Did you attend one of his seminars? Would love to hear about it! :-)