topic Re: Animal Testing..... in Beauty

Animal Testing.....

Peetie57_1 — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:25:59 GMT

Just in case some of you ladies are interested in what Products are and are not tested on Animals, I found this link on Paula's Choice. I know I for one have been in the Dark and just realized that about all products I use are on the Tested List! I feel sick to my stomach. This has been a BIG EYE OPENER for me! I know some of you ladies keep up with this sort of stuff, and Kudos to you, wish I had been more Alert of this a long time ago. Just Slack on my part.

http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/brands/

ETA: You will need to Click on Top Tab "BeautyPedia Reviews" and then "Testing on Animals".

Re: Animal Testing.....

HappyDaze — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 04:35:32 GMT

Re: Animal Testing.....

Wackers3 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 04:46:58 GMT

I think many will find this both informative and in some cases, discouraging, as there are some great brands, that due to their parent company, essentially fall onto this list. I guess each can decide for themselves and for the sake of these dear animals, may China please realize and learn that animal testing IS NOT necessary to guarantee the safety of cosmetics.

They are just demonstrating how behind the times they are .............. sad and frustrating!

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aprilskies — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 13:18:33 GMT

This is helpful, thanks. I am being more mindful of this going forward.

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myshell624 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:35:15 GMT

It has been a real eye opener for me as well. It is very sad that this is still going on.

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wingnut — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 15:56:04 GMT

I find it interesting that AHAVA is on the list that DOES test on animals because as I type this I'm looking at a tube of AHAVA Mineral Hand Cream which clearly states ""Against Animal Testing"" and shows the ""Leaping Bunny"" logo. I have emailed AHAVA and Isomers directly to see if they DO or DO NOT test on animals. I stopped using Philosophy because of animal testing. I also wonder how many people are aware that PTR tests on animals.

Re: Animal Testing.....

Peetie57_1 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:04:29 GMT

I'm still so Frustrated with myself for not being more aware of this Tragedy that takes place for me to look decent. I guess through out my years I have never really paid that much attention to this. Pure IGORANCE on my part! I went straight to my local Health Food store and picked up some samples of a skincare line (Acure), and a Foundation. I have used Clinique, Estee Lauder, Avon, Mary Kay, many store brands. NO MORE!! I threw away what little bit I had left last night. I REFUSE to any longer support this Horrendous act. And I know what you said Wackers is so true. It was very discouraging, disappointing, and devastating to me. I had some good products that I have really liked, but, I cannot with a clear conscious use them, now that I am aware of what takes place! I know everyone is going to be different in the way they feel, and that is ok, we all have different convictions. But, for me, I choose to be another individual that will not support this act.

P.S. Our son and his wife live with us right now and they have a white and black Bunny. Well, needless to say, when I saw it last night, you can Imagine what went through my mind!!

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phoenixbrd — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:06:45 GMT

I stopped using PTR because of animal testing and no more philosophy fragrance. That is odd about the AHAVA wingnut099, it will be interesting to hear from the company.

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wingnut — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:10:22 GMT

On 2/21/2014 phoenixbrd said:
I stopped using PTR because of animal testing and no more philosophy fragrance. That is odd about the AHAVA wingnut099, it will be interesting to hear from the company.

I will be sure to post the responses when I receive them.

Re: Animal Testing.....

wingnut — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:14:06 GMT

Here's the response from ISOMERS

Thank you for your question. Isomers has long had this information on our website in the FAQ Section:

Does ISOMERS do Animal Testing?

ISOMERS Laboratories is against animal testing on cosmetics products and ingredients. We do not test our products or ingredients on animals. Nor do we commission others to do so. We never have. We design and develop our products from key selected ingredients that their safety and efficacy has already been established and then further evaluate their performance and synergistic effects through clinical trials on human volunteers utilizing the latest non-invasive analytical techniques.

We appreciate that you’ve come to the source to get the correct information.

If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact me~

Lori Smith

Isomers Laboratories Inc.

105 Tycos Drive

Toronto, Ontario M6B 1W3

Canada

Re: Animal Testing.....

SundayPeaches — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:51:24 GMT

Animal testing and killing animals is sickening and offensive????, but killing the unborn is the law. Something is wrong here.

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nycgrl — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:51:35 GMT

Thanks for the info, however, I find that there is a lot of misrepresentation in the list of companies claiming do they not test on animals. Maybe they don't actually do animal testing, but they use animal products - so really what's the difference? when their products are made from animals who have suffered unimaginable pain? Mally uses sable and ponyhair for her make-up brushes? Angora is pulled off living rabbits. Iman uses calfhair, lamb leather, cowhide. Just sayin.

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HappyDaze — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:49:07 GMT

NYCGRL makes a point in that alot of these so-called "cruelty free" companies still KILL animals for ingredients in their products so if you care not only about not testing products on animals (i.e. torturing them) but are also against KILLING them for ingredients in beauty products, you should do further research. For example, someone above mentioned IT cosmetics being "cruelty free" but IT cosmetics uses animal-derived ingredients.

I really don't get how we can label something "cruelty-free" but can still kill an animal for the ingredients in that product. It boggles my mind.

Re: Animal Testing.....

Peetie57_1 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:42:44 GMT

Thanks ladies for enlightening me. I guess I need to do more extensive research on what I choose to use. I would NEVER condone Using or Killing animals for any reason on this Topic. Thanks for your feedback!

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nycgrl — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:26:18 GMT

On 2/21/2014 HappyDaze said:
NYCGRL makes a point in that alot of these so-called "cruelty free" companies still KILL animals for ingredients in their products so if you care not only about not testing products on animals (i.e. torturing them) but are also against KILLING them for ingredients in beauty products, you should do further research. For example, someone above mentioned IT cosmetics being "cruelty free" but IT cosmetics uses animal-derived ingredients.

I really don't get how we can label something "cruelty-free" but can still kill an animal for the ingredients in that product. It boggles my mind.

P.S. I know for a fact Mally will not respond about her brushes being animal hair/fur. Someone else on this board tried to find out when she had her TSV with the eye shadows. I did do my research and learned that the brush was sable and I will never purchase her products again (not even a lip gloss). At least own it. Don't state on TV "never tested on animals" as you hold a fur make-up brush in your hand. That gets my blood boiling.

Re: Animal Testing.....

Peetie57_1 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:33:27 GMT

On 2/21/2014 NYCGRL said:
On 2/21/2014 HappyDaze said:
NYCGRL makes a point in that alot of these so-called "cruelty free" companies still KILL animals for ingredients in their products so if you care not only about not testing products on animals (i.e. torturing them) but are also against KILLING them for ingredients in beauty products, you should do further research. <em>For example, someone above mentioned IT cosmetics being "cruelty free" but IT cosmetics uses animal-derived ingredients</em>.

I really don't get how we can label something "cruelty-free" but can still kill an animal for the ingredients in that product. It boggles my mind.

P.S. I know for a fact Mally will not respond about her brushes being animal hair/fur. Someone else on this board tried to find out when she had her TSV with the eye shadows. I did do my research and learned that the brush was sable and I will never purchase her products again (not even a lip gloss). At least own it. Don't state on TV "never tested on animals" as you hold a fur make-up brush in your hand. That gets my blood boiling.

Thanks NCYGRL for the info. I guess my question now is, how do we know for sure, 100% that these Companies do not use animals in anyway for their products? Please let me know where I can get accurate information. It would be greatly appreciated! Because, on this site from Paula's Choice, Mally was on the "Do Not Test List". This is very confusing.

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aprilskies — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:48:23 GMT

I agree, it gets confusing. I am starting to research some companies that are vegan type companies. I don't need anything now but going forward, I am buying no products that are tested on animals or made from animals. ...or at least do the best I can with the info I have.

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Peetie57_1 — Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:56:14 GMT

On 2/21/2014 aprilskies said: I agree, it gets confusing. I am starting to research some companies that are vegan type companies. I don't need anything now but going forward, I am buying no products that are tested on animals or made from animals. ...or at least do the best I can with the info I have.

I guess that's all we can do, is the best we can. Good luck to you!

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IEscapedLosAngeles — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 00:20:28 GMT

Its Chinese law that any product used on a human must be tested on Animals first. Further it is a communist country. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a communist country to change a law?

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SeaGal — Sat, 22 Feb 2014 00:31:39 GMT

I am really disappointed to see the companys that still use animal testing. Thank you for this list.