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LightStim Question

Mishell5 — Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:44:46 GMT

I would love to know what serum or serums to use with the LightStim. The serum that came with the kit broke me out. TIA!

Michelle

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AstridDrey — Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:53:46 GMT

Everything breaks me out. I use Origins Plantscription Serum on a daily basis and with the LightStim.

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Mishell5 — Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:30:03 GMT

On 1/25/2014 valeriecherish said:
Everything breaks me out. I use Origins Plantscription Serum on a daily basis and with the LightStim.

Thanks! Besides breaking out, my skin is very reactive lately. I'll check this out.

Michelle

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MarenSeattle — Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:54:11 GMT

There was a German study (Google it) showing that Green Tea applied before infrared treatment delivered results 10X Faster!

I'd ordered one off eBay from Korea, but was notified the manufacturer was no longer producing that particular configuration. While researching others, I just kind of made my own. I used Organic India Green Tea with Holy Basil, and made a really strong cup of tea. Put it in a spritzer and that was it.

THEN I read a post on EDS that somebody from LightStim had responded to an email saying that the German study was really designed to sell some company's Green Tea cream and it really didn't make a diff.

That didn't make sense to me because what I read indicated they made a solution from green tea extract, soaked cotton strips in it, and applied it to the face for 20 minutes before treatment. What cream? LightStim's response (or rather the individual from LightStim who responded to this woman) seems kind of odd to me.

I want to tell you that after using my little concoction prior to the LightStim, my skin looked wonderful! Just healthier, softer, I was very pleased. I'll continue to use it (or a "real" green tea serum) with my LightStim treatments, regardless of what the LightStim guy allegedly said.

NCN makes one, and there are others out there, too.

I don't think any green tea serum or potion is going to replace any peptide-rich product, nor address the same issues, but I just wanted to tell you about my experience with Green Tea and LightStim. Just make a cup and try it yourself.

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MarenSeattle — Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:54:12 GMT

DUPE -- sorry!

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Nightowlz — Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:05:16 GMT

I use Isomers Copper P, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8: 15% Argireline or Matrixyl serums. Look for a good serum with peptides without all the parabens.

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Mishell5 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 01:46:36 GMT

On 1/25/2014 MarenSeattle said:
There was a German study (Google it) showing that Green Tea applied before infrared treatment delivered results 10X Faster!
I'd ordered one off eBay from Korea, but was notified the manufacturer was no longer producing that particular configuration. While researching others, I just kind of made my own. I used Organic India Green Tea with Holy Basil, and made a really strong cup of tea. Put it in a spritzer and that was it.
THEN I read a post on EDS that somebody from LightStim had responded to an email saying that the German study was really designed to sell some company's Green Tea cream and it really didn't make a diff.

That didn't make sense to me because what I read indicated they made a solution from green tea extract, soaked cotton strips in it, and applied it to the face for 20 minutes before treatment. What cream? LightStim's response (or rather the individual from LightStim who responded to this woman) seems kind of odd to me.

I want to tell you that after using my little concoction prior to the LightStim, my skin looked wonderful! Just healthier, softer, I was very pleased. I'll continue to use it (or a "real" green tea serum) with my LightStim treatments, regardless of what the LightStim guy allegedly said.

NCN makes one, and there are others out there, too.

I don't think any green tea serum or potion is going to replace any peptide-rich product, nor address the same issues, but I just wanted to tell you about my experience with Green Tea and LightStim. Just make a cup and try it yourself.

Thanks so much! That story is odd and something doesn't add up. I am so going to make my own green tea and put it in a spritz bottle. Sounds great and it worked for you. That is the bottom line

Michelle

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susan kay — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 01:47:07 GMT

I use the Isomers serum that comes with their Nutritone system. Got a 4-pack for something like $25 last year. The Nutritone and the LightStim are a great combo.

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Mishell5 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 01:48:19 GMT

On 1/25/2014 Nightowlz said:
I use Isomers Copper P, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8: 15% Argireline or Matrixyl serums. Look for a good serum with peptides without all the parabens.

Thanks! I have the Isomers Copper P. I also have some of the other Isomers serums. I also don't use products with parabens! Great suggestions

Michelle

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Mishell5 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 01:52:51 GMT

I use the Isomers serum that comes with their Nutritone system. Got a 4-pack for something like $25 last year. The Nutritone and the LightStim are a great combo.

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Thanks Susan.. I have the Isomers Nutritone system. I really have to start using it. It just sits in the drawer. I don't have the serum that comes with it but that is easy to buy. So the 2 machines work well together? That is good to know. Every bit helps!

Michelle

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Wackers3 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:00:23 GMT

I would agree that many of the Isomers serums are good choices. And would also second Nightowlz's response that a good peptide serum that your skin can easily tolerate would be very beneficial. Green tea is loaded with antioxidants which is also excellent for the skin so can't see any negative in using that too.

Maren ....................... hasn't green tea been shown to increase the benefit of derma rolling? There was so much info shared here on derma rolling that maybe I am confusing that with something else but somehow it keeps popping into my brain.

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Wackers3 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:03:32 GMT

My Nutritone also just sits in a drawer which makes no sense. I am really trying to be faithful to Lightstim right now but somehow can't get the same enthusiasm for my Nutritone. I am really glad I got that on a fabulous special price for the little use it gets.

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MarenSeattle — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:08:02 GMT

On 1/25/2014 wackers said:
I would agree that many of the Isomers serums are good choices. And would also second Nightowlz's response that a good peptide serum that your skin can easily tolerate would be very beneficial. Green tea is loaded with antioxidants which is also excellent for the skin so can't see any negative in using that too.

Maren ....................... hasn't green tea been shown to increase the benefit of derma rolling? There was so much info shared here on derma rolling that maybe I am confusing that with something else but somehow it keeps popping into my brain.

It's entirely possible, wackers -- I've been overwhelmed, too! I know that White Lotus has a Green Tea serum (I think Lyn in MI ordered it) to use while Dermarolling, so you're probably right! Even though I'm not sure mine does much (stability, etc) I use it once or twice daily anyway because it's just so darn high in antioxidants, it can't hurt!

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MarenSeattle — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:12:49 GMT

On 1/25/2014 wackers said:
My Nutritone also just sits in a drawer which makes no sense. I am really trying to be faithful to Lightstim right now but somehow can't get the same enthusiasm for my Nutritone. I am really glad I got that on a fabulous special price for the little use it gets.

I'm having the same problem with my NuFace. I REALLY saw a difference when I used it -- 3 days in a row. But honestly, the application of a gel, spritzing with water, having to remove the gel, just is a pain. AND -- I was doing the basic and advance techniques and it was taking between 35-40 minutes.

I'm planning -- eventually -- to get the DPL to replace my LightStim so I can just get it done in 10-20 minutes. (I've got the mini and it takes almost an hour to do my entire face, plus I do it at 5 minutes per spot.) Maybe then I'll be more willing to devote the time and hassle to NuFace. We really should be doing both if we're seeing the results. "Should". :-)

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Wackers3 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:21:29 GMT

Maren .............. I saw a difference too especially with the puffiness under my eyes. But elsewhere too if I used it faithfully. But I so agree with you that applying the gel, then adding more as it dries out then having to rinse all the mess off starts to discourage you after awhile. I think if it was just using the Nutritone solo without all the added fuss, I might be more willing to make the effort.

What is the DPL? And I also use the Lightstim at least 5 minutes per spot so t takes awhile.

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hyacinth003 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:28:30 GMT

I have been using the LightStim for over a year without any serum.

Hyacinth

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susan kay — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 02:54:51 GMT

MiShell5, I use the Nutritone with serum first, then use the Lightstim right after. Love the results. The "lift" is a definite lift. It does take a while to do all of that. That's why I don't use it more than twice a week, even though I know I would like the results if I did it more. You aren't supposed to use the Nutritone every day. They tell you to skip a day.

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Mishell5 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 03:35:49 GMT

On 1/25/2014 wackers said:
My Nutritone also just sits in a drawer which makes no sense. I am really trying to be faithful to Lightstim right now but somehow can't get the same enthusiasm for my Nutritone. I am really glad I got that on a fabulous special price for the little use it gets.

I know! I have the original and the more recent one. I just don't know why I don't reach for it. I used to use (still have) the Connie Stevens Forever Spring machine thingy. That sits in a drawer next to the Nutritone. I do remember using it faithfully when it came out and I had good results....That said, I was about 20 years younger so yeah, of course I had great results!

Michelle

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Mishell5 — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 03:37:55 GMT

On 1/25/2014 hyacinth003 said:
I have been using the LightStim for over a year without any serum.

Hyacinth

How are your results having that you have been using it for over a year? I am not using it like I should, so I cannot say if I have any results or not. I figure a serum could speed up the action!

Michelle

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MarenSeattle — Sun, 26 Jan 2014 03:39:16 GMT

On 1/25/2014 wackers said:
Maren .............. I saw a difference too especially with the puffiness under my eyes. But elsewhere too if I used it faithfully. But I so agree with you that applying the gel, then adding more as it dries out then having to rinse all the mess off starts to discourage you after awhile. I think if it was just using the Nutritone solo without all the added fuss, I might be more willing to make the effort.

What is the DPL? And I also use the Lightstim at least 5 minutes per spot so t takes awhile.

Okay, I just did a NuFace and how could I not do this all the time? The results are pretty pleasing! Don't know if the Nutritone is as instantly gratifying. In theory, we "should" be willing to go through the hassle just to achieve results. I can only imagine what they'd be like long term! In reality, I just get lazy! I have the same complaint with the PTR glycolic acid pads (I just got the Best Sellers kit and it's going back - really don't like anything!). Apply, WAIT, rinse.

DPL is a "deep penetrating light" -- panels so you can do your entire face in one step. Google DPL and I think the name of a seller will come up -- Emerson Electric (?) that has LOTS of info and Q&A's. I learned about it here (natch) and someone said she was pretty much able to see a difference right away. There are more infrared lights than the LS. It's pretty pricy (what isn't?) but there are places to get it cheaper. Search on this board, too -- lots of threads on it!