topic Re: 613 for First Cleanse in Beauty

613 for First Cleanse

HonnyBrown — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:46:40 GMT

I used Wen 613 as a first cleanse and followed up with Wen Fig. 3rd day hair is moist and my curls are fluffy and bungee.

They also feel borderline brittle. I can't describe it any better. Is this normal? How frequently can 613 be used as a first cleanse? While I don't have a regular use for it, I have mixed it in with Fig or used it on my ends.

I don't want to overload my hair with protein, which is why I'm asking and not experimenting.

Re: 613 for First Cleanse

ANewHue — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:54:11 GMT

I prefer to use 613 for my 2nd cleanse mixed with one of the other CC's. I believe I also heard Chaz say to use it for the cleanse on one of the airings. I didn't like the results when I used it alone. I,also like to use it as an overnight treatment between remoist treatments.. I've been using it every cleanse mixed with either SAM or one of the seasonals lately and I feel my hair has gotten even stronger.

Re: 613 for First Cleanse

Hilary77 — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 06:05:46 GMT

613 adds strength to the hair. However, I do think that you can give your hair protein overload. I experience this with 613, the seasonals, and BGT. I can use them once in awhile for strength, but if I use them several days in a row, my hair gets dry and brittle. You just have to find the right amount for your hair. You could try just adding a pump in with your regular cc and see how that works. I like to use it for my second cleanse once every 1-2 weeks.

Re: 613 for First Cleanse

HonnyBrown — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 06:08:13 GMT

Thanks Beaches!

I want to keep using it because it does a great job at strengthening my hair. I just need to find a perfect balance.

Mixing it with my CCs doesn't seem to be enough, but using it as a first cleanse might be too much. I used it on my ends once, so I can't tell about that. Also, my 2nd CC has to be Fig for the moisture.

Re: 613 for First Cleanse

HonnyBrown — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:18:24 GMT

On 1/17/2014 Hilary77 said: 613 adds strength to the hair. However, I do think that you can give your hair protein overload. I experience this with 613, the seasonals, and BGT. I can use them once in awhile for strength, but if I use them several days in a row, my hair gets dry and brittle. You just have to find the right amount for your hair. You could try just adding a pump in with your regular cc and see how that works. I like to use it for my second cleanse once every 1-2 weeks.

Thank you, Hilary!

I have over moisturized my hair on several occasions, so I definitely don't want protein overload. It was a nightmare for a few weeks to get my balance back (moisture-protein).

Adding it to Fig doesn't seem to be enough.

When you used the protein products on consecutive days, were you doing anything for moisture?

Re: 613 for First Cleanse

Hilary77 — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 07:30:03 GMT

On 1/17/2014 HonnyBrown said:
On 1/17/2014 Hilary77 said: 613 adds strength to the hair. However, I do think that you can give your hair protein overload. I experience this with 613, the seasonals, and BGT. I can use them once in awhile for strength, but if I use them several days in a row, my hair gets dry and brittle. You just have to find the right amount for your hair. You could try just adding a pump in with your regular cc and see how that works. I like to use it for my second cleanse once every 1-2 weeks.

Thank you, Hilary!

I have over moisturized my hair on several occasions, so I definitely don't want protein overload. It was a nightmare for a few weeks to get my balance back (moisture-protein).

Adding it to Fig doesn't seem to be enough.

When you used the protein products on consecutive days, were you doing anything for moisture?

I usually use tea tree or Sam for my first cleanse and a seasonal or 613 for my second cleanse. The first and second consecutive days, it adds strength to my hair. But, by the third day, it would start to feel dry and brittle. I usually do oil treatments once a week.

Re: 613 for First Cleanse

HonnyBrown — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:50:04 GMT

Thanks again Hilary. My Tea Tree and LAV CCs are being shipped, so I have a lot of experimenting to do. I haven't even looked into the oils yet.

Re: 613 for First Cleanse

FinnyMinny — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:30:32 GMT

I use 613 on my scalp only for my 2nd cleanse and I use a CC that my hair likes better on the rest of my hair (the ponytail section). I figure that way my scalp is getting all the benefits of the skincare ingredients in 613, and they really get a chance to work since I wait for 5+ minutes before rising out the 2nd cleanse.

Re: 613 for First Cleanse

HonnyBrown — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:55:28 GMT

Thank you, Finny. I became diligent about a 2nd cleanse after seeing Chaz on QVC last week.

I am seeing an improvement in the strength of my hair since using 613 somewhat regularly, but I still have some breakage on my ends. I'm going to try the reverse of what you do and keep the 613 on my ends 2nd cleanse.